The Truth about RFK Jr

As someone said always remeber this:
Mother Nature ..in this case read science......always bats last.
 
He should not be discouraged in this endeavour. It's going to have to take thousands, nay millions, more dead Americans to put an end to MAGA and Trump. Expect RFK Jr. To be the first under the bus though.
 
Yahoo News quoted another article: "[Dr. Ben] Edwards, who said mass infection is “God’s version of measles immunization,” according to the Washington Post, runs a facility in Texas where he reportedly treats some people for measles-related ailments with budesonide." This is the same Dr. Edwards whom RFK Jr praised.
 
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Chris_Halkides said:
Yahoo News quoted another article: "[Dr. Ben] Edwards, who said mass infection is “God’s version of measles immunization,” according to the Washington Post, runs a facility in Texas where he reportedly treats some people for measles-related ailments with budesonide." This is the same Dr. Edwards whom RFK Jr praised.
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Planigale said:
www.cdc.gov

History of Measles

Learn the history of measles, from the pre-vaccine era to measles elimination.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

So mortality was 1:10,000 so it is unlikely any individual would know someone who died of measles, 1% were hospitalised still so low that it easy to understand why children who got measles in the 60s think no one became ill with measles.
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The numbers I have seen are a bit higher. From the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases:
  • About 1 in 5 unvaccinated people in the US who get measles will be hospitalized (the risk is higher in children younger than age 5 years)
  • 1 out of every 1,000 people with measles will develop brain swelling, which could lead to brain damage
  • As many as 1 in 20 children with measles will get pneumonia
  • 1-3 out of 1,000 people with measles will die, even with the best care

However, the reason for any numerical difference is a second order question.
 
I suspect the CDC figures include a percentage of the population who are vaccinated but still catch measles, a not unheard-of situation. They get partial protection, few effects, and recover faster.
 
Norman Alexander said:
I suspect the CDC figures include a percentage of the population who are vaccinated but still catch measles, a not unheard-of situation. They get partial protection, few effects, and recover faster.
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These were historic pre-vaccination figures, so hospitalisation would be likely much lower than now. (so relevant to all those who say that when I was a child pre vaccination no one became ill from measles.)
 
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At In the Pipeline Dr. Derek Lowe wrote, "A second way that things are being undermined is at the regulatory and decision-making level. That's well-illustrated in this piece at BioCentury. Steve Usdin is looking at Mike Makary's FDA and an upcoming decision that will reveal a lot about how things are going to be run. Readers may have noticed that the current version of the Novavax coronavirus vaccine has had a sudden regulatory hold put on it at the FDA...Makary has put his new assistant Tracy Beth Høeg in charge of reviewing the application, and this is not a good sign at all. Høeg has been a "health freedom" advocate who has called for restrictions on some childhood vaccines in her previous work with Florida's previous surgeon general (who himself is no prize, in my view). She is a political appointee all the way - and as Usdin makes clear, political appointees are not supposed to have anything to do with final decisions about drug and vaccine approvals, and letting one step into the process in this way is a very bad precedent."
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No, it's definitely not a good sign!
The short version: Tracy Beth Høeg (and Christine Stabell Benn) have participated in Ron DeSantis' anti(mRNA)vax advisory board
DeSantis petitions for grand jury on COVID mRNA vaccines and public advisory board for oversight (WKRG, Dec 13, 2022)
According to a release from the governor’s office, members of the advisory board will include:
  • Jay Bhattacharya, MD, PhD
  • Martin Kuldorff, PhD
  • Tracy Beth Høeg, MD, PhD
  • Joseph Fraiman, MD
  • Christine Stabell Benn, MD, PhD
  • Bret Weinstein, PhD
  • Steven Templeton, PhD
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The longer version: In Denmark, we have known about her for couple of years, unfortunately:
Tracy Beth Høeg (Northern California Orthopaedic associates )
Tracy Beth Høeg, MD, PhD, is a native of Wisconsin and a Danish-American dual citizen. She received her BA with honors in French and graduated Phi Beta Kappa from the University of Wisconsin, Madison. She received her MD degree from the Medical College of Wisconsin and during this time received a research grant to study dementia at Harvard Medical School. She completed a Transitional Year Internship at Gundersen Lutheran in Wisconsin. Shortly after starting Ophthalmology residency in the US, she and her Danish husband moved to Denmark. In Denmark, she quickly learned Danish and became a licensed physician working in Internal Medicine, Emergency Medicine and Ophthalmology. She also led a large population-based epidemiological study in a small city called Næstved and received her PhD in Epidemiology and Public Health from University of Copenhagen.
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Dr. Høeg believes in both holistic and evidence-based care.
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Following years working as an adjunct associate professor and research associate at the University of California-Davis, she has been doing her most recent epidemiological research at both USCF and the Sloan School of Management at MIT. She is also currently an adjunct professor in the Department of Clinical Research at the University of Southern Denmark. She has recently had scientific articles/epidemiological investigations published as first or senior author in The New England Journal of Medicine, Pediatrics, British Medical Journal-Evidence Based Medicine, American Journal of Medicine, British Journal of Sports Medicine, the CDC’s MMWR and the Journal of Medical Ethics
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At the University of Southern Denmark, Tracy Beth Høeg has been working with Christine Stabell Benn, also an antivaxxer, but a selective one. Stabell Benn is (in)famous for promoting the idea that vaccines have not only specific but also unspecific effects, the measles vaccine(s) in particular: so-called non-specific effects of vaccines (NSE):
Har kendt vaccine ‘skjulte’ effekter? Nye studier deler danske forskere (Videnskab.dk, Mar 7, 2025)
Does a well-known vaccine have 'hidden' effects? New studies divide Danish researchers

Stabell Benn's idea is that there's a huge "difference between live-attenuated vaccines and non-live vaccines" (VaccineNation, April 24, 2024). She is a big fan of the former but warns against the latter.

The idea is that the traditional (or old-fashioned) measles vaccine protects against not only measles but also other infections, but that the new ones don't. Her research was based on (non-randomized) studies in Guinea-Bissau. However, recent studies carried out by other researchers in Denmark on Danish children show no such difference, and the Guinea-Bissau studies have been questioned.
Measles-Mumps-Rubella vaccination at 6 months of age and the risk of atopic disease in the first year of life: Results from a Danish placebo-controlled randomized trial (Journal of Infection, Vol 90, #3, March 2025).
We found no difference in atopic disease rates before 12 months between groups.
The trial showed no association between MMR and early childhood atopic disease.
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In Denmark, the idea that non-live vaccines harm children have led to opposition to vaccinating children against COVID-19, and at this point only 65+ (and other particularly vulnerable groups) are eligible for the annual (!) shots (in October).
I hope that the new study may change the attitude of pediatric doctors, but those things often take an awful lot of time. Stabell Benn and Beth Høeg have both been promoting the idea that children in the USA get too many vaccines. In Denmark, e.g. children don't get the chicken pox vaccine. I hope that the new study will also help to change this in Denmark.

Sensible Medicine x Vaccine Curious: Tracy Beth Høeg and Christine Stabell Benn compare US & Danish COVID-19 response and child vaccination policy (IMDb)

In the meantime, things look even more gloomy in the USA, obviously. Tracy Beth Høeg's promotion is one small part of this.
 
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A little more about Makary and his new assistant Tracy Beth Høeg:
The End of Science at the FDA - A single study reveals the incompetence (at best) of its incoming leadership (The Skeptical Scientist on Substack, April 8, 2025)
The trial of the Pfizer vaccine found that there were 50% more serious adverse events among the group receiving the placebo. Hoeg, Makary, and their team, did not merely misinterpret the data from the trial. They ignored it.
Well, almost. Out of 10,075 subjects, the[y] ignored 10,072. The[y] surgically removed three cases that the research team had speculated to be potentially vaccine related and pretended they were the only thing that had happened. Rather than correctly indicating that the increase in serious adverse events associated with the booster was zero, they built a menacing red monolith out of those three cases, a number, in this context, not statistically different from zero.



A graph from the Makary and Hoeg vaccine risk benefit assessment, which ignores the results of a clinical trial and inaccurately assesses the reductions in hospitalization associated with the COVID booster.
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Other grotesque misinterpretations are presented in the fairly short article.

"In the world of medical science, alternative facts kill."
 
The Guardian reported, "Kennedy’s statements also come as HHS has clawed back more than $11bn in funding to local and state health departments – including grants that had funded immunization clinics near the measles outbreak in Dallas. In an interview with CBS News, Kennedy denied knowledge of the clawbacks, and said: “I’m not familiar with those cuts … The cuts were mainly [diversity, equity and inclusion] cuts.”"
 
Chris_Halkides said:
The Guardian reported, "Kennedy’s statements also come as HHS has clawed back more than $11bn in funding to local and state health departments – including grants that had funded immunization clinics near the measles outbreak in Dallas. In an interview with CBS News, Kennedy denied knowledge of the clawbacks, and said: “I’m not familiar with those cuts … The cuts were mainly [diversity, equity and inclusion] cuts.”"
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It's DEI all the way down.
 
More on Makary and RFK Jr.
Jonathan Howard on X, April 10, 2025
Marty Makary spent the past 5 years on Tv raging against the medical establishment as if he were an outsider.
Now he’s the top of medical establishment & things seem to be a mess at the agency he is running.
He needs to fix this & explain what’s going on.
That’s his job now.

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From Politico, April 4, 2025: RFK Jr. vowed to upend American health care. It’s happening faster than expected.
 
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Concerning the lawsuit against the administration, The Guardian reported, "The lawsuit argues that the justifications given for the funding cuts were legally flawed, and that the cuts violate federal law and jeopardize public health. It states that the terminated grants were intended to address broader public health needs beyond the pandemic and that Congress never required that the funds be spent only during the period of the pandemic...The suit also says that Congress previously reviewed and chose not to rescind these funds during a budget negotiation that took place after the pandemic was declared over."
 
acedurrani

👋 Doctor hereRFK Jr. today on child that passed away from measles: “I saw the medical report on it today and the thing that killed her was not the measles, but it was a bacteriological infection.”Yeah.... Measles can infect T cells, leading to systemic immune suppression and secondary infections like pneumonia. A first year med student could tell you that.
 
Tero said:
acedurrani

👋 Doctor hereRFK Jr. today on child that passed away from measles: “I saw the medical report on it today and the thing that killed her was not the measles, but it was a bacteriological infection.”Yeah.... Measles can infect T cells, leading to systemic immune suppression and secondary infections like pneumonia. A first year med student could tell you that.
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He's a doctor, eh? Isn't pretending to be a doctor a punishable offence?
 
Tero said:
acedurrani

👋 Doctor hereRFK Jr. today on child that passed away from measles: “I saw the medical report on it today and the thing that killed her was not the measles, but it was a bacteriological infection.”Yeah.... Measles can infect T cells, leading to systemic immune suppression and secondary infections like pneumonia. A first year med student could tell you that.
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The patient didn't die from the car accident. They died from brain damage***

***(which occurred when they went through the windshield of the car and flew into a telephone pole)
 
As kookbreaker and I mentioned, measles can lead to loss of immune memory. Andrea Du Toit (in an article in Nature Reviews Microbiology 18(2) 14 November 2020) "Two recent studies provide further evidence that measles induces ‘immunological amnesia’; that is, long-term immune memory loss." This link also provides information. It can take years to rebuild the immune memory.
 
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