The Truth about RFK Jr

The Public Health Collaborative wrote, "in a trial with over 44,000 participants, 14 all-cause deaths were reported in the placebo group and 15 deaths in the vaccine group. None of the deaths were vaccine-related, and only three (two in the placebo group and one in the vaccine group) were COVID-19-related."
 
Andy_Ross said:
RFK Jr: "If you look at the studies of the Pfizer vaccine…the people who got the vaccine had a 23% higher death rate from all causes."

Bill Maher: "But that could be the disease itself."

RFK Jr: "Then the vaccine doesn’t work, does it?"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991876758799577534
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Conclusion: RFK Jr. doesn't know how vaccines work.

But we knew that, didn't we...
 
Chris_Halkides said:
The Public Health Collaborative wrote, "in a trial with over 44,000 participants, 14 all-cause deaths were reported in the placebo group and 15 deaths in the vaccine group. None of the deaths were vaccine-related, and only three (two in the placebo group and one in the vaccine group) were COVID-19-related."
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VACCINES KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN PLACEBOS!!!
 
shemp said:
VACCINES KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN PLACEBOS!!!
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Shhhhh! RFK's going to crusade against placebos next. Did you know placebos contain autism stem cells? Fifty million children suffer from placebo-related illnesses every day! He learned that from a deformed potato he saw in a mirror during a heroin high.
 
Andy_Ross said:
RFK Jr: "If you look at the studies of the Pfizer vaccine…the people who got the vaccine had a 23% higher death rate from all causes."

Bill Maher: "But that could be the disease itself."

RFK Jr: "Then the vaccine doesn’t work, does it?"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991876758799577534
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I wouldn't like to see wher Blobby pulled those numbers out of, because it's where the sun shineth not.
 
Andy_Ross said:
RFK Jr: "If you look at the studies of the Pfizer vaccine…the people who got the vaccine had a 23% higher death rate from all causes."
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Higher than whom? Was there anything about the recipients that made them a higher risk group than the average, general population? Like, was it given to them as a priority because they were older or otherwise more vulnerable?
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Higher than whom? Was there anything about the recipients that made them a higher risk group than the average, general population? Like, was it given to them as a priority because they were older or otherwise more vulnerable?
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I would also like to know how much higher the average death from all causes was for unvaccinated people.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
It is worth exploring why he highlighted all-cause mortality when comparing a vaccine to a placebo.
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If the numbers are correct, which I'm doubting, it'd be because they look more incriminating when taken out of context.
I'm always dubious when quacks & charlatans use mortality as an endpoint in their mud-slinging against vaccines because it is an unusual event, it's why I much prefer this infographic which tracks the reported number of cases
 
Stacyhs said:
As the mother of a daughter on the autism spectrum, it really pisses me off when morons like RFK Jr. spread this kind of crap.:mad::mad::mad:
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I empathise.

Perhaps the best course of action in the face of such rank insanity would be to ignore this "official" advice and implement your own sensible medical plan for your daughter. Even if it means buying any drugs you might need from Canada., for example.
 
At SBM David Gorski commented on the recent changes in the CDC's webpage concerning vaccines and autism.. He wrote, "This HHS claim that the “studies are being ignored” is, at its heart, basically nothing more than the central conspiracy theory of the antivaccine movement, namely that the “evidence is out there” that vaccines cause autism by “They” (a cabal of scientists, physicians, Big Pharma, the CDC, the FDA, etc.) are “covering up” the real data and evidence. In essence, this statement is nothing different from what RFK Jr. wrote over two decades ago in Deadly Immunity, when he proposed a conspiracy theory that the CDC really did have the evidence that the mercury-containing preservative thimerosal that used to be in several childhood vaccines was the cause of the “autism epidemic” and convened a meeting at the Simpsonwood Conference Center in suburban Atlanta in 2000 to find a way to cover it up. It’s no different from the more recent “CDC whistleblower” conspiracy theory that claimed that the CDC had evidence that vaccines were associated with a higher risk of autism in African-American boys but had “covered it up.” As I like to say, all science denial, antivax vaccine denial included, is a conspiracy theory."
 
Planigale said:
It is usual to look at all cause mortality. The mortality benefit from flu vaccination is a decrease in cardiovascular deaths; the mortality benefit from measles vaccination is decreased pneumonia deaths.
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IIRC the fact that measles causes partial immune amnesia was first suggested when people looked at all cause mortality.
 
Jeremy Faust, host of Inside Medicine, reported, "The CDC’s internal email server now lists Louisiana physician Dr. Ralph Lee Abraham as the agency’s Principal Deputy Director...In February 2025, Dr. Abraham made headlines by announcing that Louisiana would end mass vaccination campaigns...A MedPage Today analysis found that out of around 12,000 practicing physicians in 2021, Dr. Abraham was the 7th highest prescriber of ivermectin in the state..."
 
Oh goody, what could go wrong?

Meet Ralph Lee Abraham, the CDC’s new second-in-command who believes the Affordable Care Act should be repealed and called vaccines ‘dangerous’​

Dr. Ralph Lee Abraham, the Louisiana surgeon general who halted his state’s vaccine promotion campaigns and delayed warning the public about a deadly whooping cough outbreak, has quietly been installed as the second-highest official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The Department of Health and Human Services did not announce this appointment. The news was first spotted by Dr. Jeremy Faust, who runs the Substack called Inside Medicine.


Abraham, a 70-year-old former Republican congressman who served three terms representing Louisiana’s 5th congressional district, started in his new role as principal deputy director on November 23, according to the agency’s internal database. The HHS has since confirmed Abraham’s appointment.

The selection aligns the CDC’s senior leadership with the views of Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a longtime vaccine skeptic. Abraham has promoted discredited COVID-19 treatments including ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, and, according to Faust, Abraham was the seventh-highest prescriber of ivermectin among Louisiana’s roughly 12,000 practicing physicians in 2021, personally accounting for 1.1% of the state’s prescriptions for the anti-parasitic drug. Clinical studies had already demonstrated ivermectin’s ineffectiveness against COVID-19 by that time.
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Public Health in the U.S. is being overseen by maniacs.
 
MedPageToday reported, "One source, a national public health expert who previously served in government and is familiar with Abraham's career, said that this would be "an irresponsible choice." He added, "He's a dangerous guy because he's very slick," referring both to his style and his experience as a Congressman from 2015-2021."
 
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