The Trump Presidency

[newyorkguy]

Recently Donnie said being prez was tougher than he thought, he thought it would be easier. That he's also amazed at the sheer size of the federal government, bigger even than "big companies." Yesterday on the CBS' news show Face the Nation, he backed off a tad on how tough being POTUS is.

Just days after saying he thought being president would be “easier,” Trump backtracked a bit. “It’s a tough job, but I’ve had a lot of tough jobs,” Trump said. “I’ve had things that were tougher... Link

I couldn't believe he said that. What was tougher than being President of the United States, running the New Jersey Generals football team? But I thought Donnie topped himself for sheer nonsense when he spoke about North Korean's Kim Jong Un:

“Obviously, he's a pretty smart cookie,” Trump said of the North Korean leader. Asked about the failure of several North Korean missile tests recently, Trump said he’d “rather not discuss it. But perhaps they’re just not very good missiles. But eventually, he’ll have good missiles.”

USA to rest of world: H-E-L-P!!!

 

[BobTheCoward]

There is something weird opponents do that I don't quite understand. I have seen a lot of liberals rubbing in the fact that Trump pulled the ahca vote after saying it would happen, mocking republicans caving on the budget, and laughing as people leave Fox news.

Shouldn't they be blowing smoke up these people's butts? Shouldn't we encourage our opponents with positive reinforcement when they take action we support? It seems grave dancing actually raised the cost of compromise.

 

[Minoosh]

The tide goes out, the tide comes in, nobody asks why.

 

[SezMe]

I don’t stand by anything. I just — you can take it the way you want. I think our side’s been proven very strongly. And everybody’s talking about it.

This broke my Trump -> English translater.

 

[Minoosh]

But I thought Donnie topped himself for sheer nonsense when he spoke about North Korean's Kim Jong Un:

Obviously we have here a case of dictator envy. Now what else do the letters d-i-c remind one of?

USA to rest of world: H-E-L-P!!!

That's where Spicer's upside-down flag pin comes in.

Any day now it's going to be too much for even the most rustic rube to excuse. Granted, I've felt that way for months, but this time ...

I don't stand by anything.

This is the literal truth. He is telling the American people who he is. If America is OK with that, I will be exploring emigration opportunities sooner rather than later.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

To be fair, the president does say "had Andrew Jackson been a little later..." indicating that he is aware of the relative historical time frames of Jackson and the Civil War, before he says "...he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War..." implying that he does not.

To be fair, Trump makes these ignorant comments all the time and these little explanations never hold up. So why should this one?

For cripe's sake, Trump asked, "Why was there a Civil War?"

 

[Minoosh]

There is something weird opponents do that I don't quite understand. I have seen a lot of liberals rubbing in the fact that Trump pulled the ahca vote after saying it would happen, mocking republicans caving on the budget, and laughing as people leave Fox news.

Shouldn't they be blowing smoke up these people's butts? Shouldn't we encourage our opponents with positive reinforcement when they take action we support? It seems grave dancing actually raised the cost of compromise.

I agree ... the opposition would be better off rolling its eyes and declaring, "That's Donald for you." But there is an active part of this debate that feels it's important not to "normalize" Trump. Here's a clue: He was elected president. Might be time to revisit the strategy of incredulous mockery.

Outright hostility I'm OK with .

 

[Tony Stark]

...was angry because he was a slave owner.

 

[alfaniner]

Originally Posted by Donald J. Trump
I don't stand by anything.

 

[tyr_13]

There is something weird opponents do that I don't quite understand. I have seen a lot of liberals rubbing in the fact that Trump pulled the ahca vote after saying it would happen, mocking republicans caving on the budget, and laughing as people leave Fox news.

Shouldn't they be blowing smoke up these people's butts? Shouldn't we encourage our opponents with positive reinforcement when they take action we support? It seems grave dancing actually raised the cost of compromise.

What action do we support?

Trump pulled the vote because he didn't have the numbers, not because they've decided they were wrong and want to try to fix any problems. Likewise with the budget. People have been forced out of Fox news, without apologizing for their actions or even admitting any wrongdoing.

Any conservative or Republican who was critical of these things for reasoning I agree with or can at least respect, I'll give credit to. Thus far, that's been damn, damn rare. So rare I've changed my view on most people on that spectrum.

 

[chrispy]

What action do we support?

Trump pulled the vote because he didn't have the numbers, not because they've decided they were wrong and want to try to fix any problems. Likewise with the budget. People have been forced out of Fox news, without apologizing for their actions or even admitting any wrongdoing.

Any conservative or Republican who was critical of these things for reasoning I agree with or can at least respect, I'll give credit to. Thus far, that's been damn, damn rare. So rare I've changed my view on most people on that spectrum.

This ^^^. I don't support the repeal/replace of the AHCA. I don't support a budget that includes funding for the wall (or the wall, period). I don't support a news organization that pays off sexual harassment claims for old, rich white guys that think they are entitled to pussy. Right on brother (or sister).

 

[BobTheCoward]

This ^^^. I don't support the repeal/replace of the AHCA. I don't support a budget that includes funding for the wall (or the wall, period). I don't support a news organization that pays off sexual harassment claims for old, rich white guys that think they are entitled to pussy. Right on brother (or sister).

There is no wall funding in the budget.

It is better if the victims receive no compensation?

 

[chrispy]

There is no wall funding in the budget.

It is better if the victims receive no compensation?

Yes. The funding for the wall was pulled as a "concession". As for the other comment...What? You know what I was saying, don't play coy.

 

[Tony Stark]

Republicans caved on the budget because they had to in order to avoid a government shutdown they would be blamed for.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Yes. The funding for the wall was pulled as a "concession". As for the other comment...What? You know what I was saying, don't play coy.

I don't know what you are saying.

There is a reason it is called positive reinforcement. You are reinforcing when you observe positive behavior in a desired direction, even when initially marginal. I wonder if cheering Fox news for letting people go, even after having done bad stuff previously, actually advances having people do more good stuff.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Republicans caved on the budget because they had to in order to avoid a government shutdown they would be blamed for.

Which is normally the point you would give your dog their first treat in training.

 

[SezMe]

Your problem, BobTheCoward, is that you assume that the current GOP congresscritters respond to positive reinforcement just like dogs do. I do not accept that assumption. They have been hawking the same "solutions" for years in the face of massive evidence their ideas don't work. The best(?) example is trickle-down economics. It's a disaster. Kansas is Exhibit A for that yet we have Sam Brownback urging Trump to apply his failures at the state level to the feds.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Your problem, BobTheCoward, is that you assume that the current GOP congresscritters respond to positive reinforcement just like dogs do. I do not accept that assumption. They have been hawking the same "solutions" for years in the face of massive evidence their ideas don't work. The best(?) example is trickle-down economics. It's a disaster. Kansas is Exhibit A for that yet we have Sam Brownback urging Trump to apply his failures at the state level to the feds.

What about the republicans that changed in the legislature and tried to add new spending recently?

Then the next question would be, if it may have zero effect, does positive have any negative effect? Further would it still achieve superior results to current strategy?

 

[Hungry81]

Yes. The funding for the wall was pulled as a "concession". As for the other comment...What? You know what I was saying, don't play coy.

Don't worry there is a solution to the wall. Donalds wall will be built with the participation of hundreds of people all over America and even the world. Payment for the wall is not a problem And Im sure you will agree that it is the best wall evern and you will see it just as soon as he downloads it and installs it.

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[Noztradamus]

Holy Crap!
I can't decide which is more stupid, Trump saying Jackson was upset about a war that started years after his death or Trump saying nobody asks why the Civil War happened?
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"Actually there were numerous causes, aside from the obvious schism between abolitionists and anti-abolitionists, economic factors, both domestic and international, played a significant...."