Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

[kookbreaker]

Trump had a Superb Owl ad! Bragging about what he's done for black people!
I'm having a hard time seeing how that's going to do him any good.
Black people know he and his supporters hate them.
His supporters hate black people.

Recall that one Trump supporter here stated outright that Trump pardoning a long-dead black man was pure proof he was not racist at all.

Said supper then drooled openly over the over militarized police attacking minorities at Furgeson.

 

[Segnosaur]

Trump had a Superb Owl ad! Bragging about what he's done for black people!
I'm having a hard time seeing how that's going to do him any good.
Black people know he and his supporters hate them.
His supporters hate black people.

His ads probably aren't aimed at black people, but gullible white people who still had a glimmer of humanity and were put off by some of his racist activity and were considering not voting for him because of it. Now they can pretend "He's not racist...(for reasons)".

 

[Trebuchet]

His ads probably aren't aimed at black people, but gullible white people who still had a glimmer of humanity and were put off by some of his racist activity and were considering not voting for him because of it. Now they can pretend "He's not racist...(for reasons)".

In other words...morons.
I think you are correct.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

...
Given the public domain information available it's probably becoming an arguable position that if you are stupid enough to lend to Donald Trump you can't have any reasonable expectation of actually being paid back.

Unless the payback is political favors and/or money laundering.

The Democrats really missed the opportunity to investigate Trump's finances by only going after his Russian connections.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I don't take any economists predictions as truth. Just about all of them failed predicting the 2008 crash.

Did you see the movie, The Big Short? Some insiders saw it coming.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

trump Tweets

I promised to restore hope in America. That includes the least among us. Together, let’s KEEP AMERICA GREAT!
Text TRUMP to 88022 if you liked our Super Bowl ad!.

I wonder if he knows how stupid his ad was?

It features that one woman Kim K brought to Trump's attention who Trump then pardoned. She praises Trump, of course. Then the ad ended with Trump saying he gets things done.

I'm glad he pardoned her. She should have been pardoned earlier by Obama.

But how does letting one wrong person in jail out mean anything? What about all the sentencing reform Trump has not gotten done? If anything, Trump's made that worse with more private prisons.

I'm still watching to see if there's a second one, the first one was really short. Certainly not 60sec of ad.

Bloomberg's had a similar theme, a personal story about losing a son to gun violence ending with a promise Bloomberg isn't threatened by the gun lobby. Made more sense.

 

[Minoosh]

In all this cray-cray, one thing stood out to me: Trump is encouraging a repeat of the "Bernie or no one" attitude among Bernie supporters. He wants non-Trump voters to sit out the election if anyone but Sanders is the Dem nominee. He really is a pathetic POS.

He is a pathetic POS, but not because of this ploy. He's just using a very standard divide-and-conquer tactic. He didn't create the fissures; he is just exploiting them. It probably wasn't even his idea. So the thing to do is, look for fissures in the Republican camp and drive wedges in at those points. Hammer on them. How about throwing some gasoline on a Trump-Romney feud? Shouldn't be that hard to do.

I'm not even saying that's the best example, because I don't know. But: When they go low, go lower; just be sure to retain plausible deniability. Earnestly campaigning on the issues is fine but pulling a few dirty tricks probably won't hurt. Let's get these bastards at each other's throats, where they belong.

 

[Segnosaur]

The Democrats really missed the opportunity to investigate Trump's finances by only going after his Russian connections.

Keep in mind that until they took the House, the Democrats didn't really have many options. (We only got the Mueller report involving Russia because the rather high-profile firings in the FBI.)

And there ARE ongoing investigations into Trump's finances, so its not like the issue is being ignored...However, like other investigations, Trump has done everything to block subpoenas in the courts. The supreme court is set to hear arguments about subpoenas in March, and will probably rule some time around June.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/13/politics/supreme-court-trump-financial-documents/index.html

Now, some of these subpoenas were issued in the spring of 2019, so by the time the supreme court rules on them, it will have been a delay of almost a year. Of course, the risk to Trump is that the supreme court rules against him, then it means his financials might end up getting released right in the middle of the election campaign.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Trump had a Superb Owl ad! Bragging about what he's done for black people!
I'm having a hard time seeing how that's going to do him any good.
Black people know he and his supporters hate them.
His supporters hate black people.

nvmd

Except it was what he did for one black woman. Did you see a different ad than I did.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

In all this cray-cray, one thing stood out to me: Trump is encouraging a repeat of the "Bernie or no one" attitude among Bernie supporters. He wants non-Trump voters to sit out the election if anyone but Sanders is the Dem nominee. He really is a pathetic POS.

I have a different take. Trump's trying to dismiss Biden with claims of corruption so Trump can fight the next top two with socialism fear mongering.

Now he has Bloomberg moving up and that's a hard one for Trump. So he's trying to make Bloomberg out to be the DNC fav with the evil Party out to get Sanders.

I'm sure Trump didn't come up with this strategy. He's not that clever.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

[sidenote]KC just got another touchdown. SF would need 2 touchdowns in less than 2 minutes to win.[/sidenote]

So I guess that 30 sec ad was all Trump bought.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

His ads probably aren't aimed at black people, but gullible white people who still had a glimmer of humanity and were put off by some of his racist activity and were considering not voting for him because of it. Now they can pretend "He's not racist...(for reasons)".

You could be right.

 

[Minoosh]

Except it was what he did for one black woman. Did you see a different ad than I did.

And he didn't do it for HER but for Kim Kardashian.

I didn't see the ad, maybe I'm talking out of my ***.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Keep in mind that until they took the House, the Democrats didn't really have many options. (We only got the Mueller report involving Russia because the rather high-profile firings in the FBI.)

And there ARE ongoing investigations into Trump's finances, so its not like the issue is being ignored...However, like other investigations, Trump has done everything to block subpoenas in the courts. The supreme court is set to hear arguments about subpoenas in March, and will probably rule some time around June.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/13/politics/supreme-court-trump-financial-documents/index.html

Now, some of these subpoenas were issued in the spring of 2019, so by the time the supreme court rules on them, it will have been a delay of almost a year. Of course, the risk to Trump is that the supreme court rules against him, then it means his financials might end up getting released right in the middle of the election campaign.

I think a lot of stuff was in the public domain. No sense worrying about it now.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

And he didn't do it for HER but for Kim Kardashian.

I didn't see the ad, maybe I'm talking out of my ***.

No, that was the woman.

I'm curious to see the ad reviews for both candidates.

 

[a_unique_person]

Did you see the movie, The Big Short? Some insiders saw it coming.

I did. There were people like me who wondered if it was sustainable but in terms of experts predicting it based on economic theory and evidence they were thin on the ground.

 

[Matthew Best]

Trump tweets:

Congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs on a great game, and a fantastic comeback, under immense pressure. You represented the Great State of Kansas and, in fact, the entire USA, so very well. Our Country is PROUD OF YOU!

(Since deleted.)

 

[kookbreaker]

Trump tweets:

Congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs on a great game, and a fantastic comeback, under immense pressure. You represented the Great State of Kansas and, in fact, the entire USA, so very well. Our Country is PROUD OF YOU!

(Since deleted.)

Very big brain. Very stable genius.

 

[Cain]

Very big brain. Very stable genius.

Like Ukraine, nobody gives a **** about Kansas. Missouri, on the other hand, matters... once every four years.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I did. There were people like me who wondered if it was sustainable but in terms of experts predicting it based on economic theory and evidence they were thin on the ground.

Hard to apply economic theory without knowing the fact accountants were cheating on assessments.