The Trump Presidency 14

[The_Animus]

This is not "what the GOP has come to". This is what Matt Shea has come to.
Hopefully people will see this nasty piece of work for what he is, as several people have already done, and he will no longer be able to represent anyone publicly again.

My peeve, of course, is painting a large group with the actions of one person in that group. It's just not fair or accurate, and I think you know that, and there are plenty of GOP members who would view this behaviour of his just as dimly we you do.

Has the GOP called for him to resign? How about a public statement condemning his actions?

 

[Segnosaur]

This is not "what the GOP has come to". This is what Matt Shea has come to.

Yet Matt Shea has been elected (and supposedly re-elected), supposedly through the support of GOP voters, despite his hypocrisy (being against divorce while being divorced), reports of physical abuse against his ex-wife, pulling a gun on another motorist and has held anti-gay policies for many years. So even before the latest reports of nuttery, it was obvious that Shea was a problem. Yet GOP voters kept voting for him, and the party leadership seemed to have no problem with him.

My peeve, of course, is painting a large group with the actions of one person in that group.

If it were just some fringe GOP follower with no political power who was expressing bigoted views it would be fair to dismiss them as not representative of the party as a whole. But it becomes harder to dismiss the actions of that "one person in that group" when they happen to be an individual with actual political power, who has regularly been re-elected despite some rather distasteful history.

It should also be noted that republican support for Trump as a whole remains high, despite the fact that he called neo-nazis "fine people" and locked children in cages. I find it difficult to believe that people would both approve of the racism of Trump yet somehow think Shea has overstepped the line.

It's just not fair or accurate, and I think you know that, and there are plenty of GOP members who would view this behaviour of his just as dimly we you do.

Define "Plenty" of GOP members. Are those that reject his racism in the majority? A significant minority? Evenly split?

Trump has ~80-90% approval ratings among Republicans. Does that mean that the 20% minority who disapprove of him constitute "plenty" of GOP members?

 

[Stacko]

Trump Tweets

Rep. Occasio-Cortez is correct, the VA is not broken, it is doing great. But that is only because of the Trump Administration. We got Veterans Choice & Accountability passed. “President Trump deserves a lot of credit.” Dan Caldwell, Concerned Veterans of America

You're claiming credit for the Veterans Choice and Accountability Act of ... 2014?​

Someone needs to turn grandpa's TV off.

 

[Armitage72]

You're claiming credit for the Veterans Choice and Accountability Act of ... 2014?​

Someone needs to turn grandpa's TV off.

He did sign an extension in 2017. Signing his name took a lot of work. It requires a lot of concentration and coordination to scribble with that Sharpie.

 

[alfaniner]

Trump Tweets

Rep. Occasio-Cortez is correct, the VA is not broken, it is doing great. But that is only because of the Trump Administration. We got Veterans Choice & Accountability passed. “President Trump deserves a lot of credit.” Dan Caldwell, Concerned Veterans of America

He actually deleted that one and posted this instead:

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is correct, the VA is not broken, it is doing great. But that is only because of the Trump Administration. We got Veterans Choice & Accountability passed. “President Trump deserves a lot of credit.” Dan Caldwell, Concerned Veterans of America

He added her first name and corrected the spelling of her last name. For a while both Tweets were up which is why I noticed it. I don't know how many comments were there for the first post, but of course they are gone now.

 

[Armitage72]

Now that I think about it, given that the original legislation was passed during President Obama's term, the fact that he didn't attempt to destroy it is a pretty big accomplishment, for him.

 

[jimbob]

Huge if true.

Potentially more damaging than the Mueller report.

Holy Crap.

I'd love to ask Stacyhs what they hell they have been putting in the water up there in the Pacific NW?

Don't know what you mean:

State representative Matt Shea, who represents Spokane Valley in the Washington state house, participated in the chats with three other men. All of the men used screen aliases – Shea’s was “Verum Bellator”, Latin for true warrior. The Guardian confirmed the identity of those in the chat by cross-checking phone numbers attached to the Signal accounts.

Spokane seems to be inhabited by perfectly normal people.

 

[Andy_Ross]

trump Tweets

I didn’t call Bob Costa of the Washington Post, he called me (I Returned his call)! Just more Fake News.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

The Great State of Tennessee is so close to passing School Choice. All of our Nation’s children, regardless of background, deserve a shot at achieving the American Dream! Time to get this done, so important!

 

[Matthew Best]

trump Tweets

I didn’t call Bob Costa of the Washington Post, he called me (I Returned his call)! Just more Fake News.

I didn't call him! He called me. Then I called him! Fake news!

 

[Ladewig]

trump Tweets

I didn’t call Bob Costa of the Washington Post, he called me (I Returned his call)! Just more Fake News.

I want a president that doesn’t sound like a 14-year-old girl.

 

[Venom]

Trump is a thin-skinned narcissist.

 

[Belz...]

So was Obama, I hear.

 

[Venom]

 

[acbytesla]

Don't know what you mean:



Spokane seems to be inhabited by perfectly normal people.

Matt Shea is a gun toting crazy right wing nutcase from a rural area just north of Spokane. He's had run ins with the county sheriff on many occasions.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

by stonewalling all House Dem's subpoenas, Trump is setting himself up to fail even with his partisan Supreme Court.
Not a clever move.

 

[Ladewig]

by stonewalling all House Dem's subpoenas, Trump is setting himself up to fail even with his partisan Supreme Court.
Not a clever move.

Does the president have the skills or knowledge to make a move other than telling his lawyers to file papers to stop it?

 

[Stacyhs]

This is not "what the GOP has come to". This is what Matt Shea has come to.
Hopefully people will see this nasty piece of work for what he is, as several people have already done, and he will no longer be able to represent anyone publicly again.

My peeve, of course, is painting a large group with the actions of one person in that group. It's just not fair or accurate, and I think you know that, and there are plenty of GOP members who would view this behaviour of his just as dimly we you do.

Has the GOP called for him to resign? How about a public statement condemning his actions?

Yet Matt Shea has been elected (and supposedly re-elected), supposedly through the support of GOP voters, despite his hypocrisy (being against divorce while being divorced), reports of physical abuse against his ex-wife, pulling a gun on another motorist and has held anti-gay policies for many years. So even before the latest reports of nuttery, it was obvious that Shea was a problem. Yet GOP voters kept voting for him, and the party leadership seemed to have no problem with him.

If it were just some fringe GOP follower with no political power who was expressing bigoted views it would be fair to dismiss them as not representative of the party as a whole. But it becomes harder to dismiss the actions of that "one person in that group" when they happen to be an individual with actual political power, who has regularly been re-elected despite some rather distasteful history.

It should also be noted that republican support for Trump as a whole remains high, despite the fact that he called neo-nazis "fine people" and locked children in cages. I find it difficult to believe that people would both approve of the racism of Trump yet somehow think Shea has overstepped the line.

Define "Plenty" of GOP members. Are those that reject his racism in the majority? A significant minority? Evenly split?

Trump has ~80-90% approval ratings among Republicans. Does that mean that the 20% minority who disapprove of him constitute "plenty" of GOP members?

What The Animus and Segnosaur said.

 

[Stacyhs]

I want a president that doesn’t sound like a 14-year-old girl.

As a former...very former...14 year old girl, I take offense to that.

 

[Venom]

Has anyone read or shared this yet?

Trump says he'll turn to Supreme Court if Congress begins impeachment.

President Donald Trump on Wednesday said he would turn to the Supreme Court if the House of Representatives moves to impeach him, though it is unclear what role the nation’s highest court could play if the president were to seek its help in such a situation.

“I DID NOTHING WRONG,” Trump said. “If the partisan Dems ever tried to Impeach, I would first head to the U.S. Supreme Court.”