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Ed The tricks of the medium Daniel Dunglas Home

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Daniel Douglas Home (1833 – 1886) was a famous medium and I am sure most of you have probably heard of him.

Home was a bit different than most other mediums of his time, first he did not give séances to the public, he was cautious and only selected his sitters (who were usually rich folk). Home would usually invite sitters back to his house, so Home had all the conditions in his favour for his mediumship. Home would not perform his mediumship in front of skeptics (this is well known).

So what I really want to talk about in this thread, is not Home's levitation myth (perhaps we can touch on that later on) but really this thread is to discuss the supposed "scientific" experiments into the mediumship of Home by the scientist William Crookes.

As you may know William Crookes was a convinced spiritualist and he has been unreliable on his statements on mediumship regarding other mediums but lets talk about these experiments that he carried out with Home.

The experiments

Firstly the experiments were rather strange they consisted of two experiments. One of these utilised a board and balance spring apparatus which Crookes said Home managed to alter the weight of objects without contact on several occasions via a "psychic force".

According to Crookes' report this experiment consisted of:

A mahogany board, 36 inches long by 9 and half wide and 1 inch thick. At each end a strip of mahogany 1 and half inches wide was screwed on, forming feet. One end of the board rested on a firm table, whilst the other end was supported by a spring balance hanging from a substantial tripod stand. This balance was fitted with a self-registering index, in such a manner that it would record the maximum weight indicated by the pointer. The apparatus was adjusted so that the mahogany board was horizontal, its foot resting flat on the support. In this position its weight was 3lbs as marked by the pointer of the balance... Mr Home placed the tips of his fingers lightly on the extreme end of the mahogany board which was resting on the support... almost immediately the pointer of the balance was seen to descend. After a few seconds it rose again. This movement was repeated several times, as if by successive waves of the psychic force.

In the most famous experiment known as the accordion experiment Home would place one hand on the top of a dining table and the other hand under the table inside a cage with his fingers on the opposite end of the keys whilst his feet were said to be held down. According to Crookes' report two songs from the accordion were heard. It must be noted that before this experiment, Home had already been performing his accordion feat for over 15 years.

Crookes published his reports in the Quarterly Journal of Science but they are known to contain serious errors.

Problems with the experiments

1. The experiments took place in Crookes's self built laboratory at the back of his house (no description of this lab has survived) but the room was described by Crookes as "large".

2. Home was not personally searched before the experiments took place but was watched as he changed clothing according to Crookes' report but as Frank Podmore and others have suggested, Home could have easily placed fraudulent devices or materials in his pockets.

3. In the experiments Home refused for Crookes to sit near him - According to the reports Crookes was quite a bit of distance away from Home. Is this normal for a scientific experiment?

4. Contrary to what spiritualists have written the experiments with Home were not conducted in light conditions, report has it that only "dim light" occurred in part of the room. So most of the room was in darkness.

5. Crookes' report deliberately left out who was present in the room, it was only revealed later that six men were present during the Crookes-Home experiments and four women. As Ruth Brandon suggested Home could have easily had an accomplice. We know according to other séances that Home had a female accomplice.

6. According to reports of the experiment Home would draw attention to something on the other side of the room, or make conversation for diversionary signals with those who were in the room and Crookes was occupied most of the time with writing notes.

7. Crookes admitted that Home and himself had "tested" similar devices to the ones used in the experiments beforehand on other occasions. Home could have easily known how to cheat on the experimental apparatus before the experiments had even taken place.

8. Crookes was convinced that Home had proven the existence of a "psychic force" but as others have suggested the experiments had poor scientific controls and the movement observed on a piece of the apparatus could easily be explained by the vibrations of the trains (the lab was built under a train track at the back of Crookes house) but other things have been suggested such as home using a piece of resin on his finger etc.

9. Home largely directed the proceedings of the experiments, even giving those in the room instructions, of course this was not mentioned in Crookes' report but this is what happened.

10. The experiments were never repeated.

Questions to people on this forum

1. How do you believe the accordion trick was done, and what is your explanation for the board and balance experiment? Of course the board and balance experiment can easily be dismissed by natural causes and not fraud, some already listed, but others are convinced Home manipulated the apparatus perhaps with a piece of resin on his fingertip.

2. So far I have not been able to locate the names of the four females who were present during the Crookes-Home experiments. Why Did Crookes not mention any of the names of those who were present in his reports?

Home is supposed to be the "great" of spiritualism, and the supposed medium who was never caught in fraud. If you visit any parapsychology or spiritualist forum you will see people claiming the Crookes experiments were sound and that Home scientifically had proven a "psychic force". Well as you can see above, the experiments were far from scientific :D

Please comment if you are interested in this subject.

Sources

Peter Lamont. (2005). The First Psychic: The Extraordinary Mystery of a Notorious Victorian Wizard.

Ruth Brandon. (1983). The Spiritualists: The Passion for the Occult in the Nineteenth and Twentieth Centuries.

Frank Podmore (1910). The Newer Spiritualism.

Milbourne Christopher. (1970). ESP, Seers & Psychics.

Ronald Pearsall. (1972) Table-rappers: The Victorians and the Occult.

Nicola Bown, Carolyn Burdett and Pamela Thurschwell. (2009). The Victorian Supernatural (Cambridge Studies in Nineteenth-Century Literature and Culture).

William Hodson Brock. (2008). William Crookes (1832-1919) and the Commercialization of Science.

Also note that James Randi wrote a foreword to Gordon Stein. (1993). The Sorcerer of Kings: The Case of Daniel Dunglas Home and William Crookes - I have not read this book yet.
 
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As I get time (which may not be a while), I will dig up my electronic copy of the JSPR on Home and will read your analysis in more detail. In the meantime, allow me to point out a detail that is a bit of a peeve for me: it is Daniel DUNGLAS Home. Not Douglas.

Cheers
 
My only experience with such things is reading accounts of Houdini, Randi, Gardner, etc.... And without bothering to posit a specific technique, it's easy to see that the conditions very strongly favored fakery.
The presence of other people who may or may not have been confederates, the poor lighting, the lack of controls, the venue itself...
No modern researcher would tolerate such conditions.
 
Yes, it is DUNGLAS Home, but it was not on his birth certificate, according to Houdini in "A Magician Among the Spirits." Home added it because it was a name from Scottish royalty and he wanted to be associated with that old family.

The accordian trick, iirc, was really a couple of simple songs with few notes, most notably "Home Sweet Home" (cute :rolleyes: ) and was done with a harmonica hidden beneath his "soup strainer" moustache. After his death, a number of small worn harmonicas were found among his possessions.

As for the rest, I don't remember, and my books are all packed away. But the above was what I recalled from Houdini's book. I also recall that rich peoples' rings were snatched from their fingers during seances and if caught, he would jokingly say that the "lovely spirits" were playing with the guests.

He and his supporters made a huge deal out of his never charging people, but he always accepted generous "donations" even when quite sizable.

I also recall that a rich lady adopted him, and later disowned him. I don't remember where I read that, tho.

As to the "never caught in fraud" I've read, I believe from Houdini, too, that people said he had been "caught cheating" but never formally convicted of actual fraud. Well, "caught cheating" is the same, really, just not taken to Court, right?

Nice thread! I'm sorry that for the moment my contribution is small.
 
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The accordian trick, iirc, was really a couple of simple songs with few notes, most notably "Home Sweet Home" (cute :rolleyes: ) and was done with a harmonica hidden beneath his "soup strainer" moustache. After his death, a number of small worn harmonicas were found among his possessions.

Yes this is possible, a small harmonica could have been used but it does not fit the evidence in my opinion. According to Crookes' report one hand of Home was under the table the entire time in a cage and the other was on top of the table in view of the sitters and was said not to move.

The thing is the Crookes report is unreliable so it is hard to know what to believe. As stated in my first post, Crookes in his report never revealed who was present in the room, it was only revealed after some of the names of the sitters present and four of the ladies remain unidentified from what I have read so far. The whole thing is rather strange.

The hand under the table of Home was not observed, anything could have been going on and the conditions were dark. I can't post pictures (yet) but there was quite a large hole in the cage under the table.

The harmonica was never found among his possessions. William Lindsay Gresham told Randi he had seem them, but this was never verified. Eric John Dingwall who catalogued Home's belongings did not find any harmonicas.

It is possible that Home used a small music box under the table or in his trousers, there was another fraud medium from the same time as Home known as Francis Ward Monck who was caught utilising a small music box in his trousers to pretend spirits were playing music in his séances.

Before the accordion feat in the Crookes experiments, Home had already been performing this feat for 15 years, so he knew what he was doing, he had plenty of experience.
 
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Yes, Crooke's did well controlled tests, as I recall reading somewhere. (I wish I could remember where), but there is speculation that Crooke's was biased toward spiritualism being real, and sometimes his controls were looser for some of his subjects.

As for the harmonicas being found or not found, I don't know what to conclude. They could have been stolen. Hells, even evidence for famous murder cases have cops stealing evidence for souvenirs. Black Dahlia missing evidence, anyone? :)

If someone had a great deal of experience, he could hide them in his mouth or under his moustache no matter how closely observed. Perhaps. :)

Of course the elaborate cages and other frippery used in the tests for Home and his kind to show their "power" are so extraordinary and elaborate that I'm sure no researcher today would tolerate such conditions, as Bikewer said. And such "flap-doodle" stunts ... oh, my! Lol! Spirits will stoop to no lengths to maintain any dignity, it seems. :)

You bring up great points, DoomMetal. I now want to dig further. My recollections are vague, but you are right about Crooke's report being unreliable. I recall that, too.

Do you know, off the top of your head, the name of the investigator who went to a house to see proof of the haunting of a little girl? He and his aids put talcum powder all over the floor and by every entrance and exit, and in the pitch dark (of course) he felt the form of a small naked girl who was supposedly a spirit? I don't want to derail, and may start a new thread, but for the life of me I cannot recall who he was. Harry somebody. I think. Regardless, I think they detected no fraud. I don't doubt that it was, but it went undetected at the time. Okay - end derail!
 
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Crookes' published his reports in the Quarterly Journal of Science (QJS). He was careful not to use the word "spirit" in his report because he didn't want his report to sound un-scientific.

Note that Crookes via his experiments with Home actually opposed the spirit hypothesis and claimed the phenomena was the result of a "psychic force" i.e. psychokinesis. This is in opposition to the spiritualist community and was actually in opposition to Home himself! It was only claimed many years later in a book Crookes published that Home in the experiments was "communicating" with spirits in the experiments and talking to them etc but of course Crookes left this out of his original report in this QJS because he didn't want to bring in spirits as he wanted to keep it "scientific".

The experiments took part in Crookes home built lab in the back of his house, hardly the best of places for a scientific experiment.

Do you know, off the top of your head, the name of the investigator who went to a house to see proof of the haunting of a little girl? He and his aids put talcum powder all over the floor and by every entrance and exit, and in the pitch dark (of course) he felt the form of a small naked girl who was supposedly a spirit? I don't want to derail, and may start a new thread, but for the life of me I cannot recall who he was. Harry somebody. I think. Regardless, I think they detected no fraud. I don't doubt that it was, but it went undetected at the time. Okay - end derail!

The psychic researcher was Harry Price. I have read about this in detail. If you are interested you can read about the whole thing in his book Fifty Years of Psychical Research. The girl was called Rosalie, she had died at age six but their were reports of her coming through in a séance so Price went to investigate it.

Yes Price did put starch powder all over the floor, outside of the room and even in the chimney place. He moved all objects such as pictures and clocks outside of the room. He locked the door, and put tape on the windows.

There were six people present, but for some reason three of them were not searched. After a few minutes into the seance a little girl did appear, of course the room was in pitch darkness so anything could have been going on. Price wrote he felt the child, heard her breathing and could feel respiratory movements from her chest. Price even measured the pulse of the child.

When the lights were turned on, the child was not there and Price checked every part of the room for the child and found nothing and all the powder over the floor and in the chimney was undisturbed without any footprints and none of the tape on the windows had been removed. Price claimed he was the only one with a key, so nobody could have gotten in or out of the room during the séance.

The whole thing was a trick. I do know how it was done as after it had happened one of those who was in the séance confessed to having set the thing up and having used a child during the séance - this had not been widely reported. I could create a thread on this if you like :)
 
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Here is a sketch of Home in the accordion experiment. As you can see it looks like he could have easily gotten his arm in and out of the cage during the experiment:

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Ah! I've never seen that sketch. That cage is ridiculous. Of course it looks like he could get his arm out.

I wonder why someone didn't just firmly hold his hands or something like that. A cage is a lot of trouble. :confused:

I've really got to take time and find some material about the Crooke's test.

Thank you for Harry PRICE! Yes! That's the one. And as much as I tried to discover an aftermath, I never came across any report that it was a confessed hoax. I'll look into that book. I'm currently preparing my house to put on the market again, so my time and money for books is limited, but surely there is a place I find on the web about this now that you've reminded me of his name. I just may want a thread if there is more material on Price and other investigations that are ... interesting. ;)
 
Ah! I've never seen that sketch. That cage is ridiculous. Of course it looks like he could get his arm out.

I wonder why someone didn't just firmly hold his hands or something like that. A cage is a lot of trouble. :confused:

I've really got to take time and find some material about the Crooke's test.

Thank you for Harry PRICE! Yes! That's the one. And as much as I tried to discover an aftermath, I never came across any report that it was a confessed hoax. I'll look into that book. I'm currently preparing my house to put on the market again, so my time and money for books is limited, but surely there is a place I find on the web about this now that you've reminded me of his name. I just may want a thread if there is more material on Price and other investigations that are ... interesting. ;)

According to the Crookes' report both of Home's feet were held down but his hand on the top of the table was not. There was only one small lamp in the room and it was not on the table, and under the table was pitch dark. Yes very easy to use tricks. I am surprised how modern day parapsychologists still take the experiment seriously.

Another thing, after the experiments a rumour was spread in spiritualist publications that Home was not holding the accordion at all and it was levitating inside the cage for as long as 10 minutes :rolleyes: it is amazing how dishonest the spiritualists are, of course no such thing ever happened but this myth is still occurring in modern spiritualist books.

Regarding Harry Price he is disliked by the spiritualists because he debunked many fraud mediums but also disliked by some of the modern sceptics. I like the man and think he was an honest psychic investigator. Of course he was not a professional magician or scientist so he was probably duped by a few things, but he was one of the first investigators to utilise scientific controls and methods to rule out trickery in the experiments he conducted like pouring powder over the floor or tying up the medium etc.

Price debunked the mediums Helen Duncan and Rudi Schneider. His work has been very useful and modern sceptics do actually quote his work now and again on exposing fraudulent mediums but unfortunately tend to ignore his other work.
 
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This took a long time to find, it is a sketch of the board and balance spring experiment.
 
I really appreciate the time you took. That is fascinating! Do you know what book may have this? All mine are packed away, and I know that the only ones I have are by Home himself (yeah, so reliable! And I hadn't had time to read it yet) and the one by Houdini.

As I recall, Houdini also cited a claim that a group of people "witnessed" (I quoted that word because I don't think anyone actually claimed that they saw the entire event) Home float out of one window on a second story of a dwelling, glided alongside the structure, and then floated back inside via a window in another room.

I am going to try and refresh myself on the board and balance spring experiment. Again, if spirits were/are real they are very tolerant of such intricately silly tests.

As for Price, from his account of "Rosalie" that I do recall, I like the man, too. He obviously did not have cover all possible bases as he was fooled, but I think he did his best. He also has probably kept some names alive, successfully debunked or not, that may have been forgotten had he not pursued their claims.

I remember also reading about Eusapia Paladino (sp?) and how she was caught cheating numerous times, but the popular excuse for that was that because she was so desperate to not displease or disappoint her sitters she HAD to cheat sometimes. But, of course, all the other times she was not she was obviously NOT cheating. :rolleyes:

I recall some cases in general, but not the mechanics by which they were tested. I really appreciate the time you have taken to help me further my own knowledge. I do recall Houdini's rubber-banding his leg to swell it so he could feel the slightest movement of a leg and even the muscles of the leg of the medium; was it Ms. Paladino? and also exposing the tricks of how "mediums" could use one of their hands in the dark serve as seeming like two. There was also a case where someone took a famous photograph in the middle of a session of a famous man's wife (whose name escapes me for the moment) while she was in a cabinet playing a trumpet that was expected to be attributed to spirits. Oh, was it ... darn it! I just had her name but as I was typing I forgot it. :mad:

I mainly recall Home as being a sneaky, oily little man who somehow charmed and cheated his way into many "donations" and into one old lady's heart until something occurred which made her cast him out of her home. I have to give him credit for fooling testers, tho, and having his skills perfected to the point where actually proving he was a fraud was made difficult.
 
I really appreciate the time you took. That is fascinating! Do you know what book may have this? All mine are packed away, and I know that the only ones I have are by Home himself (yeah, so reliable! And I hadn't had time to read it yet) and the one by Houdini.

As I recall, Houdini also cited a claim that a group of people "witnessed" (I quoted that word because I don't think anyone actually claimed that they saw the entire event) Home float out of one window on a second story of a dwelling, glided alongside the structure, and then floated back inside via a window in another room.

The photographs appear in a number of books, but if you search for Barry H. Wiley. (2012). The Thought Reader Craze: Victorian Science at the Enchanted Boundary you can read it on Google books for free and there is an entire chapter on the Home experiments. Wiley does a good job at exposing the problems with the experiments. Wiley also in communication with a professional magician suggested that he cheated on the spring balance experiment with a piece of resin under his fingertip.

The spiritualists and psi believers have no interest in the truth, so they don't bother to read books on the subject other than the lies promoted in spiritualist publications. Spiritualists are a case of True-believer syndrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True-believer_syndrome so no amount of evidence is going to convince them the contrary to their belief.

The Crookes-Home experiments are an embarrassment to parapsychology, even Crookes admitted they were not repeated. If it is not repeatable it is not science, so it amazes me how the modern parapsychologists still promote his old experiments as evidence for a "psychic force". :boggled:

As previously stated Crookes lied and left things out of his original report. He did not reveal who was present during the experiments, it was only revealed years later who was involved. This is dishonest and not professional especially for a scientific report.

As for the levitation myth it is exactly that a myth, it never happened. I can touch on that later. Yes the levitation myth has been promoted in 100s if not 1000s of parapsychology and spiritualist publications as factual. The spiritualist crowd are not interested in the truth about what really happened instead they cling to pure fantasy ;)
 
I remember also reading about Eusapia Paladino (sp?) and how she was caught cheating numerous times, but the popular excuse for that was that because she was so desperate to not displease or disappoint her sitters she HAD to cheat sometimes. But, of course, all the other times she was not she was obviously NOT cheating.

Eusapia Palladino (yes also known as Paladino to some) was a complete fraud medium and it not even worth discussing in my opinion. Home was a clever medium, yes a fraud but was clever in what he did. I actually respect Home he would of made a great public magician!

As for Palladino she was caught cheating by over 30 different scientists in every country she was investigated in, there is no reason to take her seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eusapia_Palladino

Even Oliver Lodge a confirmed spiritualist accepted Palladino was a fraud, as did most other spiritualists such as Richard Hodgson.

The only supporters of Palladino were Cesare Lombroso - But according to his daughter in his later years he could hardly see anything as his sight deteriorated, oh and Lombroso was in a sexual relationship with Palladino. And the other supporter was Hereward Carrington. Carrington was an amateur conjurer and accepted in his own words that 98% of mediumship was fraud :) but believed 2% was genuine :confused: and of course he accepted that Palladino herself cheated as much as 90% of the time, but believed she had a 10% of supernormal powers of being able to levitate a table... lol yes it is hard to take seriously. :rolleyes: I actually like Carrington It is a shame he made a monkey of himself with the Palladino business.

The levitation trick has been exposed, Palladino was just using her feet and she objected for anyone to be under the table but Joseph Rinn the magician snuck into one of her séances dressed in black and observed her trick from under the table.

As for why any modern parapsychologist would give any attention to Palladino, it is because Hereward Carrington was an amateur conjurer and was rather sceptical of mediumship (he accepted 98% of it was fraud) but when it came to Palladino he admitted she had some genuine "supernormal" ability. Its already been exposed, in the Carrington experiments with Palladino nobody was observing her feet, there were a lack of scientific controls in place, the experiment took place in a dark hotel room! Yes it still amazes me how anyone can take this seriously in the 21st century.

It has been suggested by some researchers that Carrington was personally in a relationship with Palladino and that he acted as a secret accomplice with her, well that is complete nonsense in my opinion. Carrington was not a professional magician, he was duped by Palladino in this case that is all... especially as the controls were so poor in the experiments. Carrington I actually respect he wrote some good books on conjurer tricks, he was not an expert like Houdini or Joseph Rinn but he knew his stuff.

Btw if you search for any of the supposed Palladino "levitation" table photographs you will notice that Palladino always had a long dress, it was pitch dark, nobody was under the table observing or holding her feet down and that in not one photo are all chair legs visible or in the air. As I said it is amazing how anyone can take this seriously in the 21st century but some parapsychologists still do! During the levitation experiments Palladino would free her feet from her shoes, that is all she did. And modern parapsychologists claim she proved levitation or psychokinesis... lol. It is hard to take some modern parapsychologists seriously :rolleyes:
 
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There was also a case where someone took a famous photograph in the middle of a session of a famous man's wife (whose name escapes me for the moment) while she was in a cabinet playing a trumpet that was expected to be attributed to spirits. Oh, was it ... darn it! I just had her name but as I was typing I forgot it.

There have not been many trumpet mediums, like all physical mediumship it was an early fad based on fraud and by the 1950s reports of it had died out.

The most well known trumpet mediums were Jack Webber, Etta Wriedt and George Valiantine all were exposed as frauds. Out of the three Wriedt was most interesting, she mixed chemicals inside the trumpet to make "explosion" sounds and movement of the trumpet which she attributed to spirits. She used metallic potassium and in other cases Lycopodium. A clever trick :eek:

I would be interested in knowing if you remember the name of the medium you are thinking about. The book Behind the Scenes With the Mediums (1907) by the magician David Abbott exposes many of the tricks of early mediums especially the cabinet tricks, you can find it free online if you are interested.
 
Some interesting stuff on trumpet mediums:

There were many trumpet tricks. If the medium's hands were not controlled (a practice intended to prevent trickery) he or she could simply move the trumpet about, a rubber tube being attached through which the medium spoke. Sometimes, a removable luminous band was employed and moved about at the end of a telescoping rod. In these instances, the whispered voices did not actually emanate from the trumpet; the illusion that they did worked on the ventriloquism principle: it is not easy to locate the source of a sound, especially if misdirection takes place. If controlled, the medium had clever techniques of getting one hand free or could use a secret assistant dressed all in black. (For a discussion of trumpet and other séance trickery, see M. Lamar Keene, Psychic Mafia, Amherst, NY: Prometheus, 1997; and Walter Gibson, Secrets of Magic, New York: Grosset & Dunlap, 1967.)

http://www.skeptiseum.org/index.php?id=42&cat=ghosts

You can find the book Psychic Mafia by M. Lamar Keene which exposed many of the tricks of fraud mediums free online:

http://www.drspeg.com/courses/00-paranormal/tpm.pdf

Keene and Spraggett's book caused a storm among his former associates in spiritualist circles. There were telephone cals threatening his life. One night, while walking across his front lawn in Tampa, an unseen shooter fired at him and missed, and he later dug the rifle bullet out of the wall of his house.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Lamar_Keene

The spiritualists were so insecure and angry that their tricks had been exposed they tried to kill Keene. :eek:
 
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Thank you for all the links! I will get to them asap. I'm still preparing my house for sale, but I came back here because I had to tell you how much I appreciate your help and info here. :)

Anyway, I think I (again) had my mediums mixed up. But the name I was trying to think of who was exposed on camera blowing a trumpet or some such thing (tho I can't find the pic right now), if indeed it was her, was Margery. I'm sure you know who she is. I can only recall right now that she was beautiful, often exposed her body during some seances, and her husband aided her in trickery and deceit.

Wasn't it about that time that Home and the rest all of a sudden sprang up out of nowhere? I mean, first there were the Fox Sisters, and then all of a sudden "mediums" were everywhere! Even an awful lady named Mrs. Guppy who wanted to disfigure a lovely rival. I think her name was Florence?

Anyway, I'll try to get my hands on those books. I do recall borrowing one from my local library many years ago and it covered all the early mediums. It detailed all of the cheesecloth regurgitators, the magazine cut-out apparitions, the story of the pirate "King" and his daughter "Katie." How could ANYONE ever have been fooled by such hokum?

And now I'm off to check out your links. Thank you so much! :)
 
Hi again Minarvia, thanks for your interest in my thread. As you can see from the lack of response, not many other users are interested in such stuff like this! And probably have no idea what is being discussed lol.

The book that you were thinking of from your library was probably The Spiritualists written by Ruth Brandon in the early 1980s or the book The Table Rappers by Ronald Pearsall from 1972. Both are the "common" books on spiritualism and both debunk practically every Victorian medium and document their tricks. I have not seen many any other books on spiritualism in libraries.

But the name I was trying to think of who was exposed on camera blowing a trumpet or some such thing (tho I can't find the pic right now), if indeed it was her, was Margery. I'm sure you know who she is. I can only recall right now that she was beautiful, often exposed her body during some seances, and her husband aided her in trickery and deceit.

This indeed was Mina Crandon, who also went by the name "Margery". Yes she was described as beautiful but in her later years she put a heck a lot of weight on and died an alcoholic!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mina_Crandon

Crandon did on occasion use a cabinet, but I can't seem to find any reference for the trumpet. Crandon was discredited when she was caught in fraud many times most notably her "spirit" hand was a piece of animal liver.

Houndi and many other researchers exposed her tricks.

She was also caught out in fraud when it was revealed the "spirit" fingerprints left on wax in her séances actually belonged to her living dentist. She was quite a clever fraud but not as clever as some of the others in my opinion.

And many psychical researchers were in a sexual relationship with Crandon even though she was married. She would pose naked in her séances to Eric Dingwall. She had an affair with Hereward Carrington. Malcolm bird was stage managing some of the séances with Crandon in an attempt to sleep with her. Crandon's husband displayed nude photographs of Mina in her own séances!

It was also suggested even Houdini was in a sexual relationship with Mina Crandon but I do not think this is true. Having said that there are still to this very day naked photographs of Mina Crandon which sell for a lot of money amongst Houdini collectors, weird stuff :eek:
 
Actually, DoomMetal, I am very interested in the thread. I had intended to participate because I thought myself fairly well informed on the matter, but two things happened: I ended up with less available time than anticipated, and it turns out I could contribute little if anything to what has been said.

So I'm enjoying the reading and will look up the links as I get time.

Cheers
 

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