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The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 29

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Stacyhs said:
Like you do here?


1. Tertiary transfer does not occur.
2. Kercher's DNA literally survived a bleach bath.
3. Raff was photographed lying next to a mafia gangster.
4. Raff was seen hanging out with Italian mobsters.
5. Knox and Sollecito had all night to clean up and that is obviously what they tried to do.
6. Ex-slaves owners had laws passed counting ex-slaves only as 3/5th of a person.
7. That there was no trace of Knox at the scene of the murder is a myth.
8. Even if translates as even though.
9. AK and RS weren't 'acquitted' only 'annulled'.
10. C&V were referring only to the 'collection phase' when they said contamination could not be ruled out, and not during the analysis in the lab.
11. When the quote from C&V clearly states, 'and/or during the analyses", either I or
some other PIP 'added the last clause'.

Previous whoppers:

There were no bars under Romanelli's window on Nov 2, 2007,Knox flew home on a private chartered plane, Raff owned a Napapijri jacket and a white cap with a red stripe, Vinci quit after discovering Knox's DNA on the bra, the mop was found by the cottage front door, Knox never shed a tear for Meredith, Amanda was going through 300 euros cash daily, paper under Filomena's window had Knox's footprint on them, police claimed to hear the washing machine cycle end, police didn't think Knox had showered, Forensic police believed the blood in the bidet, sink and cotton bud were signs of the murderer rinsing the knife off, Knox rang her mother for the first time since arriving in Europe ahead of the discovery of the body etc etc etc.

(Thanks to Welshman for listing some of the above with citations)
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In psychology there is an idea called projection where people project negative thoughts and actions onto other people as a coping mechanism. Vixen lies on an industrial scale in her posts and then viciously attacks Amanda for lying which is a blatant case of projection. By projecting her lies onto Amanda Vixen can pretend it is Amanda who is telling numerous lies rather than Vixen.
 
Vixen said:
If I did, I wouldn't pin it on someone else nor tell lie after lie after lie. I would stand in the witness box and tell the truth.
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I love the holier than thou attitude, but let me point out a few things here;

1. You would be just as susceptible to a coercive interrogation as anyone else. You just might pin it on someone, or just as bad, on yourself.

2. You might tell the truth, but the media and the prosecution, hell bent on convicting you, might be saying something else. And as a result, there WILL be many people on Internet chat groups, who believe the media or prosecution, and they will be accusing you of lying, whether you did or did not.

3. Your lawyers would likely advise you to NOT get in the witness box because, as most everyone who understands how the legal system works, the prosecutor can twist, distort and get you so confused that you become a nightmare witness for your own defense. There's a reason why almost no one ever testifies, and it's not because they're always guilty.
 
Neil Bantleman released from Indonesian prison

It's a bit off topic but, another win after a huge injustice....

CBC News is reporting that Neil Bantleman is home in Ontario, after a release from an Indonesian prison. He has been home for at least two weeks, and that it was kept quiet due to the release's terms.

Another win for the wrongfully imprisoned.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/neil-bantleman-indonesia-sex-charges-1.5208676
 
Stacyhs said:
OH, riiiiiiiight....I read all about it over on TJMK! Slick Pete posted it as his follow up to the apology that was coming any day now (almost 2 years ago).

You do realize that I'm going to ask for evidence of this, don't you? Not that I, or anyone else, is actually expecting you to provide any. Maybe that's because you're so busy finding the evidence that RS was 'seen hanging around with Italian mobsters' and 'Lying on a beach next to a mafia gangster'?

ROTFLMAO!

ETA: Added to list of whoppers told by Vixen.
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Did Quennell actually post that on his hate site? I don't read there so didn't know that. Based on this post I just tried going there to read the nonsense and, to my horror, the site is down!
 
TruthCalls said:
Did Quennell actually post that on his hate site? I don't read there so didn't know that. Based on this post I just tried going there to read the nonsense and, to my horror, the site is down!
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No, I was being sarcastic! Should have posted a :rolleyes:

TJMK has been down at least a couple of days. Sometimes things just go right!
 
Bill Williams said:
It's a bit off topic but, another win after a huge injustice....

CBC News is reporting that Neil Bantleman is home in Ontario, after a release from an Indonesian prison. He has been home for at least two weeks, and that it was kept quiet due to the release's terms.

Another win for the wrongfully imprisoned.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/neil-bantleman-indonesia-sex-charges-1.5208676
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That's great. Meanwhile....a (now fired) deputy has been arrested for planting drugs on traffic stops so he could arrest them. Interestingly, he would turn off his body camera. Hmmmm....he didn't want a video recording of his nefarious deeds. What a shocker.

During most of these stops, Wester would turn off his body camera and “tailor his recordings to conceal his criminal activity,” authorities said. After “finding” the drugs, he would pin motorists with bogus criminal charges and arrest them.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...g-drugs-drivers-during-traffic-stops-n1028991
 
Stacyhs said:
No, I was being sarcastic! Should have posted a :rolleyes:

TJMK has been down at least a couple of days. Sometimes things just go right!
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Oops.. but I guess that just goes to show, he's published so much BS that I put nothing past him.
 
Stacyhs said:
Quennell isn't the only one to post BS there! Krissy G is a major contributor of TJMK BS. She'd be right at home here on ISF.
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I wonder if those two have ever had a summit on the truth and reliability of Nick van der Leek, the cut-and-paste, one-per-month ersatz crack true crime author?

Quennell says the man is not to be trusted. KrissyG is in van der Leek's acknowledgements.

Inquiring minds want to know, given that Q and K.G. are perhaps the last two on-line guilter-nutters left.
 
Vixen is right that Massei isn't the dumbest judge in the case, he figured out the correct sequence of events Raffaele's 112 calls and the arrival of the postal police happened in :D
 
bagels said:
Vixen is right that Massei isn't the dumbest judge in the case, he figured out the correct sequence of events Raffaele's 112 calls and the arrival of the postal police happened in :D
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Massei was also correct about saying that there was no mixed blood, and that the victim and Knox had had a normal flatmate relationship.
 
Bill Williams said:
Massei was also correct about saying that there was no mixed blood, and that the victim and Knox had had a normal flatmate relationship.
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But suddenly...for no reason...that 'normal relationship' turned into Knox killing her roommate simply because she made a 'choice for extreme evil'! Uh huh.

Another example of Massei coming to a conclusion totally unfounded on any science was his conclusion (more rightly called speculation) that:

“It must be also emphasised that the presence of biological traces
discovered on the handle of this knife, – and on which, regarding its
attribution to Amanda, there was advanced no particular censure
nor perplexity, – appears more likely to have been derived from her having held the knife to strike, rather than from having used it to cut some food.”
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DNA alone cannot tell us how a knife was used.
 
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TJMK is still down. Oh, dear. What will the Main Contributors (all 2-3 of them) do now? There must be much rending of clothes and hair and gnashing of teeth!
 
Stacyhs said:
TJMK is still down. Oh, dear. What will the Main Contributors (all 2-3 of them) do now? There must be much rending of clothes and hair and gnashing of teeth!
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If this is, indeed, the final curtail for Peter Quennell's multi-year hate-campaign, then it represents an important milestone in the on-line war over the events of Nov 1/2 and Nov 5/6 2007 in Perugia, Italy.

The 2 PMF's are gone - used to be a unified PMF until March 2011, when the "all for Meredith" nutters broke into civil war over who cared for the victim more. The settlement of that one was .ORG and .NET and bannings of the treasonous heretics from the other side.

The fake Wiki is still up. First of all, it's not a Wiki, not in the sense that normal Wiki's are user-editable. The fake-Wiki contained, unchallenged, the factoid talking points that have plagued this case since its inception.

Then again, last time I read it even the fake-Wiki contained the admission that the result of the 2015 Supreme Court action was as an acquittal. And most of the sub-pages on it have not had meaningful updates in 5 years - and if you read the "history" sub-page to each page, you'll find that only one, two, or sometimes 3 of the true-believers were allowed to edit.

But..........

Considering that this thread, way back when, used to get up to 165 posts per day - per day - and thousands of "looks" per day, the closure of TJMK (if true) is a watershed.

Hell, maybe it'll just be you and me, Stacyhs. Numbers will keep the thread informed as to the latest in the fallout from ECHR, and Methos will be at the ready with an actual citation for claims made.....

But let's pause for a minute.....
 
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