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The Thomas Gilbert case

Cain said:
Clearly this was about early inheritance. The wife framed her kid.
#casesolved
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Naïveté! The wife is the kid, in disguise, and the victim was the mother, not the father. The father is disguised as the mother. It's an identity-switch inheritance fraud triangle murder, yet again!
 
anglolawyer said:
And since his precautions seem to have been wholly inadequate one is left with two possibilities:

  • he is off his rocker, or
  • suicide
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"Off your rocker" usually implies some sort of insanity. Run-of-the-mill stupidity doesn't generally qualify, but would suffice as a third explanation.
 
If he was innocent. Why would he go barricade himself in his apartment?
 
Caper said:
If he was innocent. Why would he go barricade himself in his apartment?
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If the "victim" were not involved, why would he disguise himself as a corpse so convincingly? There is more to this story than we're being told!!!
 
Dan O. said:
What a stupid kid. He should have done this years ago when the inheritance tax rate hit zero. Now he'll get nothing of his dad's wealth after the taxes are taken out. At least the state will be providing his room and board for the next several decades so it won't be a total loss.
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You mean inheritance tax has gone from 0% to 100%? I didn't know that.
 
Craig B said:
You mean inheritance tax has gone from 0% to 100%? I didn't know that.
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100% is a slight exageration but it was 0 for one year.

I am personally pushing for the elimination of inheritance taxes to be replaced with a collection of the Unpaid National Debit in Individual Estates upon the death of wealthy tax payers.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Naïveté! The wife is the kid, in disguise, and the victim was the mother, not the father. The father is disguised as the mother. It's an identity-switch inheritance fraud triangle murder, yet again!
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Interesting. You know a lot of details. Yet, said nothing about the evil twin. The one kept hidden in the basement because the father disguised as the mother was ashamed of the hair all over his body. Where were you on the day of the murder? If you share the inheritance, I won't tell anyone. Really.
 
anglolawyer said:
Getting back to Columbo, maybe the kid saw that one where the perp framed himself. He made a drunken threat to kill at party which was witnessed by numerous people then went off drinking somewhere. He somehow managed to kill the victim, screwing around with his watch or something to make the timing work, and came into shot as the main suspect right away. He had no alibi and it was his gun that was used. But, he had cunningly involved himself in a bunch of drunken incidents around town which he had pretended to forget so the police could find out about them independently. The idea was they would first suspect him and then slowly come to realise he had been framed. Of course, he reckoned without Columbo.
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I think you're getting episodes jumbled together.

There was one where a publisher was upset about one of his best-selling authors leaving him, making it clear to the publisher that he'd be taking the (potentially award-winning) novel he was working on with him, in direct violation of his contract.

The publisher did make an (apparently) drunken threat towards the author at a party, and headed across town to drink heavily at a bar and (after checking the time) deliberately backed his car into someone else's in a parking lot, acting obnoxious enough that they'd be sure to report the incident. Then later parked his car in a public park (not a car-park), and a couple of police officers had to drag him out of the car and throw him in a cell.

But he didn't do the killing himself. He got an ex-soldier (not quite right in the head) who wanted to publish a book on bomb making to do the killing. He gave the guy the gun he kept in the glove-box with instructions to be careful not to smudge the prints, along with the key to the office the author worked in, with precise instructions on when to do the killing, and then he scratched up the door around the lock with a screwdriver to make it look like someone had broken into his car and stolen the gun and key.

(He later killed the ex-soldier by poisoning his drink and making it look like he'd been killed by his own incendiary devices. He also made it look like the author had stolen the plot for his book, which was about the Vietnam war, from the ex-soldier.)
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
ISTR, having read that one of the things that happens when you shoot yourself, is that your arm and hand will reflexively jerk and the gun be propelled away from you. Thus finding a dead body with gun in hand is a rather positive indication the the suicide has been staged. (And. No. I am not Googling this. :covereyes )
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I've seen video of a guy who shot himself in the head in a police station. He was sitting in a chair. His body experienced a drastic stiffening spasm, but his arms didn't fly out to the sides, they kind of went downwards, if I remember correctly (it's been a few years since I saw it). I'm not even sure he dropped the firearm - it may have ended up on his lap. Bikewer might have seen the same one, it made the rounds a few years ago in police training.
 
Tiktaalik said:
I've seen video of a guy who shot himself in the head in a police station. He was sitting in a chair. His body experienced a drastic stiffening spasm, but his arms didn't fly out to the sides, they kind of went downwards, if I remember correctly (it's been a few years since I saw it). I'm not even sure he dropped the firearm - it may have ended up on his lap. Bikewer might have seen the same one, it made the rounds a few years ago in police training.
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As I said -- I am not Googling this. Is there a neurologist in the house?
 
Brian-M said:
I think you're getting episodes jumbled together.

There was one where a publisher was upset about one of his best-selling authors leaving him, making it clear to the publisher that he'd be taking the (potentially award-winning) novel he was working on with him, in direct violation of his contract.

The publisher did make an (apparently) drunken threat towards the author at a party, and headed across town to drink heavily at a bar and (after checking the time) deliberately backed his car into someone else's in a parking lot, acting obnoxious enough that they'd be sure to report the incident. Then later parked his car in a public park (not a car-park), and a couple of police officers had to drag him out of the car and throw him in a cell.

But he didn't do the killing himself. He got an ex-soldier (not quite right in the head) who wanted to publish a book on bomb making to do the killing. He gave the guy the gun he kept in the glove-box with instructions to be careful not to smudge the prints, along with the key to the office the author worked in, with precise instructions on when to do the killing, and then he scratched up the door around the lock with a screwdriver to make it look like someone had broken into his car and stolen the gun and key.

(He later killed the ex-soldier by poisoning his drink and making it look like he'd been killed by his own incendiary devices. He also made it look like the author had stolen the plot for his book, which was about the Vietnam war, from the ex-soldier.)
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Oh yes, that's the one. I had forgotten how the murder was committed. I should have cited another case instead. I can never remember the title but it's a 40s or 50s film with Dana Andrews and Edward G Robinson concerning the ethics of the death penalty. Andrews argues that an innocent person could be sent to the gallows, fried, gassed whatever and to prove it he frames himself for a murder, gets convicted and sentenced to death but leaves a telling clue that proves he didn't do it after all, expecting to be dramatically sprung from death row. In a superb plot twist, however, it turns out he really did commit the murder and God Bless America he gets fried after all.

Which all proves this Gilbert guy is guilty, having framed himself and having really done it too.
 
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