The supernatural

[heydarian saeed]

Here is the verse for which heydarian says you need a high level of knowledge.

Quran surah 112
1 Say : he is Allah
2 Allah the eternal absolute;
3 He begetteth not, nor is he forgotten;
4 And there is none like unto him

Hedarian, did you notice the previous verse surah 111 in which Muhammad curses his own uncle and his aunt to hellfire because they did not believe in him. And went around telling people he was a fake?



For the unenlightened the words in brackets in the above quote are added, and do not appear in the Quran. The following verse is what heydarian claims proves the existence of God.


Quran surah 41.53 Soon we will show them our signs in the (furthest ) regions (of the earth) and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the truth. Is it not enough that the Lord doth witness all things?

Exactly. That's what you say. Be careful to read the Qur'an according to all its dimensions. And check. Do not pick a piece to hit and distract the mind. This method is not correct. Review fairly. This surah that you said is from the time of Muhammad. And referred to his relatives. Not from me and you. To open your mind in the present age, think and critique the beautiful scientific references of the Qur'an
I am currently thinking about examining the elementary particles in the Qur'an. And I check. Please review your behavior. And be fair. I apologize for continuing your empty talk about the Qur'an and answering you about it. I'm sorry.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Condemning anyone to hell is evil Heydarian. I don't care if it's me, Scorpion, or Muhammad's Uncle. Hell is an evil concept.

 

[abaddon]

I'm sorry
No, I will not kill anyone. Not only do I not kill you who are infidels. I do not kill any human being. I love human beings with all my being. And I love them.

But your magic book instructs you to kill them. Is your magic book wrong?

Those who are corrupt and criminal are prosecuted by civil and judicial laws.

But your magic book instructs you to kill those people therefore those civil and judicial laws are logically wrong.

If you mean the government of my country. I am not a politician. And I do not want to know. But you check and see.

There's your problem. You do not want to know. You said it.

Iran has friendly relations with China and the Soviet Union, which are infidels. And we have no problem with each other.

But you already claimed to have no interest in politics. Now you are claiming to understand politics. Make up your mind.

The verses in the Qur'an for killing infidels are related to the wars of infidels against Muslims in the time of Muhammad. And his sentence has been executed. It has nothing to do with our time.

Load of bollocks. ISIL, Al Quaeda, Hamas, Hizbollah, Taliban. Like hell it has nothing to do with "our time". It is happening RIGHT NOW.

Of course, if a country or group intends to invade our privacy. We stand in front of it like a mountain. And we have no fear. And we treat him like him.

Like the Taliban. No education or rights for women, kill the infidel and all that nonsense. Yep, we can see where your nonsense leads right in front of us.

And about the divine torment that is hard for you. I must say that: Our mentality towards divine punishments is wrong. The verses of torment in the Qur'an are for fear. you understood? That is, God says that human beings should behave properly. And do not commit sin, corruption or crime. Be a good human being for fear of punishment. It also says heaven to encourage good and humanitarian deeds.

So your god is the mafia? Do as I say or else?

On the other hand, God says in the Qur'an: It is not obligatory in your choice. The choice is yours. Choose any way you like. Do you want to suffer? Do you want to go to heaven? Both of these depend on our behavior and actions. Everyone sees the consequences of their actions. I will not be judged for you. You will not be judged for me. This is quite simple and understandable.

Oh so you are confirming that your god is a mafia boss.

Do not hurt yourself too much. be happy. And do not worry at all. I know your peace of mind has diminished. And you are worried. Let me tell you why: Your unbelief has made this your mentality. Belief in God, of course, is very soothing in its logical and correct way. Of course, theism is a blind imitation, and I do not recommend it at all. The choice is yours. Please do not continue this discussion. And be positive.
I hope you have a good and happy weekend. Hope to meet

Your thugod is a violent bully. That is the end of it.

 

[IanS]

I have already told you that verse 53 of Sura 41 proves the existence of God in a distinct way. Meaning: "Soon we will show you in the heavens (the universe) and in yourself (the masterpiece of creation, the molecules of the life of the DNA) to know that God is right. Are these not enough to prove the existence of God? They testify. "

For the unenlightened the words in brackets in the above quote are added, and do not appear in the Quran. The following verse is what heydarian claims proves the existence of God.


Quran surah 41.53 Soon we will show them our signs in the (furthest ) regions (of the earth) and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the truth. Is it not enough that the Lord doth witness all things?

OK, well done for drawing attention to that. Just to add to what you have said – what Heydarian has posted there, is what he says is shown in “verse 53 of Sura 41”, and where he then produces a sentence in quotes, as if he is actually quoting from that verse of Koran, where his quote includes these words “(the masterpiece of creation, the molecules of the life of the DNA) to know that God is right” … heydarian presents that as if it's quoting those words from the Koran, such that some readers (not many here of course!) might easily think that the Koran does indeed talk there about “molecules” and “DNA” !! … but of course none of that is in either verse 53 or in any other verse anywhere in the Koran …

... those words are a complete invention added by the so-called “scholars” of Islam who heydraian is relying upon as his source for believing any of this untrue I'jaz nonsense about science being proved in the Koran …

… heydarian – you really ought to be ashamed of yourself trying to post seriously misleading untrue stuff like that.

 

[Filippo Lippi]

Maybe we should just let Scorpion and heydarian reach a consensus? We can then debate their truth

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[abaddon]

OK, well done for drawing attention to that. Just to add to what you have said – what Heydarian has posted there, is what he says is shown in “verse 53 of Sura 41”, and where he then produces a sentence in quotes, as if he is actually quoting from that verse of Koran, where his quote includes these words “(the masterpiece of creation, the molecules of the life of the DNA) to know that God is right” … heydarian presents that as if it's quoting those words from the Koran, such that some readers (not many here of course!) might easily think that the Koran does indeed talk there about “molecules” and “DNA” !! … but of course none of that is in either verse 53 or in any other verse anywhere in the Koran …

... those words are a complete invention added by the so-called “scholars” of Islam who heydraian is relying upon as his source for believing any of this untrue I'jaz nonsense about science being proved in the Koran …

… heydarian – you really ought to be ashamed of yourself trying to post seriously misleading untrue stuff like that.

For the record...

We will show them Our signs in the universe and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that this ˹Quran˺ is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is a Witness over all things?
— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth.1 But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?2
— Saheeh International

Heydarian is talking bollocks.

Hey, heydarian, where in the Quran is the muon defined? Chapter and verse please.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Exactly. That's what you say. Be careful to read the Qur'an according to all its dimensions. And check. Do not pick a piece to hit and distract the mind. This method is not correct. Review fairly. This surah that you said is from the time of Muhammad. And referred to his relatives. Not from me and you. To open your mind in the present age, think and critique the beautiful scientific references of the Qur'an
I am currently thinking about examining the elementary particles in the Qur'an. And I check. Please review your behavior. And be fair. I apologize for continuing your empty talk about the Qur'an and answering you about it. I'm sorry.

 

[Scorpion]

Maybe we should just let Scorpion and heydarian reach a consensus? We can then debate their truth

I have had no contact with mediums for years, and have not attended a spiritualist church. But yesterday I came across someone claiming to be a medium on twitter and he said he is willing to answer questions, so I asked him. 'is there a hellfire' ? The following was his answer, which I believe is true.

"The place that most would call hell isn’t full of fire, sulfur or anything else. It’s an area in the lower astral realm, where some spirits chose to self isolate. This is meant as a temporary educational period where the spirit can confront it’s wrong doings!"

from @92michael

 

[Scorpion]

Exactly. That's what you say. Be careful to read the Qur'an according to all its dimensions. And check. Do not pick a piece to hit and distract the mind. This method is not correct. Review fairly. This surah that you said is from the time of Muhammad. And referred to his relatives. Not from me and you. To open your mind in the present age, think and critique the beautiful scientific references of the Qur'an
I am currently thinking about examining the elementary particles in the Qur'an. And I check. Please review your behavior. And be fair. I apologize for continuing your empty talk about the Qur'an and answering you about it. I'm sorry.

The following link is to Maududi's introduction to the Quran, surah 111

http://www.islamicity.com/quran/maududi/mau111.html

Here is an extract from it.

Wherever the Holy Prophet went to preach his message of Islam, this man followed him and forbade the people to listen to him. Rabiah bin Abbad ad- Dill has related: "I was a young boy when I accompanied my father to the face of Dhul-Majaz. There I saw the Holy Messenger (may peace be upon him) who was exhorting the people, saying: 'O people, say: there is no deity but Allah, you will attain success. 'Following behind him I saw a man, who was telling the people; `This fellow is a liar: he has gone astray from his ancestral faith.' I asked; who is he? The people replied: He is his uncle, Abu Lahab."


I suspect that Muhammad's uncle knew he was a fake, because he was the one who taught Muhammad the bible: Here is the surah,


PALM FIBRE, THE FLAME, CHAPTER NO. 111
111.001 Perish the hands of the Father of Flame! Perish he!
111.002 No profit to him from all his wealth, and all his gains!
111.003 Burnt soon will he be in a Fire of Blazing Flame!
111.004 His wife shall carry the (crackling) wood - As fuel!-
111.005 A twisted rope of palm-leaf fibre round her (own) neck!

So Muhammad took the trouble, in a book which is supposed to be a final message to all mankind from God, to curse his own uncle and aunt to hellfire for saying he was a false prophet.

 

[heydarian saeed]

Here is the verse for which heydarian says you need a high level of knowledge.

Quran surah 112
1 Say : he is Allah
2 Allah the eternal absolute;
3 He begetteth not, nor is he forgotten;
4 And there is none like unto him

Hedarian, did you notice the previous verse surah 111 in which Muhammad curses his own uncle and his aunt to hellfire because they did not believe in him. And went around telling people he was a fake?



For the unenlightened the words in brackets in the above quote are added, and do not appear in the Quran. The following verse is what heydarian claims proves the existence of God.


Quran surah 41.53 Soon we will show them our signs in the (furthest ) regions (of the earth) and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the truth. Is it not enough that the Lord doth witness all things?

Verses 1 and 2 of Sura 112 are for the scholars of the 20th century. Are you part of this group ?! The meaning of the word Ahad and Samad is 70 times. I chose one of them. Which precisely defines singularity. What is your mentality towards modern science? Sura 111 about the worst enemy of Muhammad, whose uncle was Abu al-Halb. And she was the worst-spoken woman of her time. The two were walking behind Muhammad. He and his words were denied. And knows swearing and blasphemy. Of course, there were 70 people like this in the time of Muhammad. God only sent surahs to these two people. And cursed them. So that others can understand. And give up enmity. Do not be upset. Because you are not in the time of Muhammad. You are in the heyday of science - literature and culture ....

 

[heydarian saeed]

heydrarian. I asked for this before and you have not provided it. Again you tell us what the Quran contains in a wall of words but once more you fail to quote the actual text in the Quran that tells us about the particles.

Are you embarrassed by the Quran?

Are you ashamed to quote your holy book?

Or are you liar? Is the Quran silent on the fundamental particles?

Show us the text. Put up or shut up.

Hello to you
The word particle is mentioned 27 times in the Qur'an. And the word tiny particle is said 2 times.
The number of elementary particles is 19 in the Qur'an once.
God has said 8 times in the Qur'an: As I created the universe for the first time. I will return the same. I'll be back.
In saying the number of elementary particles is 19. God has said important things with different dimensions. Refers to singularity. He referred to elementary particles. It refers to the return of the universe to the time of singularity. He pointed to the quality and nature of divine punishment. We think that God starts a fire and throws people into it. No, not at all.
It says everything in the way of the torment of hell. It says modern science. But in the story of the torment of hell. Please read carefully.
....

 

[heydarian saeed]

... In Surah 74, verses 8 to 31 of Saghar, the fifth stage speaks of hell (unique burning fire). And describes it. And then he points to the number nineteen. In various interpretations, they have dealt with the numerical miracle of the Qur'an, which is true. But the principle of scientific miracle is that it is hidden from view. What is the amazing scientific miracle of the number 19 here? (verse 30)
Verses 11 to 25 from sura 74 describe one of the deniers of the Qur'an in the time of Muhammad named Walid ibn Mughira. He says: The Qur'an is the magic that was taught to Muhammad. And it is not other than human speech. He was one of the skilled and eloquent speakers of the land of Saudi Arabia.
He was aware of the superiority and superior words of man in the Qur'an. And he knew that no human being could have recited the Qur'an. And mocks and denies the Qur'an. God says: Leave him to me.! And in verse 26 it says:
Meaning: Put him in Saghar )the fifth degree of hell (. And how do you know what Saghar is? He does not return or give up anything! And transforms the shell. And removes. In this situation 19 (elementary particles) prevail. There is no angel. To be the guardians of hell. And the number 19 means the fifth degree of hell. All nineteen elementary particles are integrated in the fifth degree of hell.
Glaucoma plasma Quarks. Bosons and electrons and neutrinos are also intertwined.( Planck's time) The question is, why are they not considered antiparticles in this calculation?
According to the Qur'an, in the period of oneness,( singularity) it constitutes the matter of the universe and the antimatter of the universe parallel to it. After the separation of matter from its counterpart and at the beginning of the expansion of the universe, 19 elementary particles become possible. And the bosons give them the mass they need.
In Oneness, in which the elementary particles were intertwined, there were substances and their opposites. The words "does not leave" and "does not give up." What a sublime scientific meaning lies in this sentence. In the fifth degree of hell, which has reached the point of singularity or oneness from the gathering of the universe. The universe is no longer waiting to open.
There is no expansion and the elementary particles are converted into pure energy. Do not stay. And there is no news of a return. And do not give up. Islamic commentators, since they did not know the scientific meanings of the verses, interpreted the meaning of verse 29 as "human skin". Therefore, they have misunderstood. It is not human skin.
Human skin does not need the fifth degree of hell. Boiling water also removes human skin. And separates the skin.
Hell is not the fire of wood and charcoal. Its firewood is quarks and bosons.
...

 

[heydarian saeed]

Those who deny the Qur'an and the mockers and perverts should read the verses of the Holy Qur'an more carefully.

 

[heydarian saeed]

... The beginning of verse 31 of Sura 74 says: "We did not make the angels companions except Nar." The reference to God's agents is at the end of Planck's time. And it confirms that the number 19 has the same nature as elementary particles.
In this verse, the army of God has the same nature as the number nineteen. And this means that all the laws of nature that are angels are soldiers of God. The number of the agents of creation who are angels is considered by God to be their number. That is, it may go higher than nineteen. What are the duties of angels?
First, nineteen are angels. Secondly, they are a force and energy. And third, at the beginning of the expansion of the universe, they were forged. So particles are elementary. Now why are they a force? In Planck's time, all are pure energies that are transformed into matter by the command of God
Saghar is a fiery flame that, due to its high temperature, removes 19 elementary particles from the shells of the atoms and neutrons that dominate this degree of hell.( The temperature is ten to the power of 32 degrees Kelvin) And is pulled out. What are these nineteen elementary particles?
Matter is made up of elementary particles. Quarks, fermions, and gleons have shells inside neutrons and protons, and both inside the nucleus of an atom, and all of these. And they are connected. And only in Planck's time are they free and independent and intertwined.
The components of the material whose shells have been removed are: fermions and bosons. Fermions themselves are divided into leptons and quarks. The force of physics, or the laws of physics known as the force particle, is made up of bosons. And includes: electrons and magnets which are photons.
Quarks always interact with gleons, known as strong nuclei. And the weak nuclear force borne by the two types of needles Z and W. And the Higgs boson, which The accuser elementary particles. Neutrons are also elementary particles that are stable at high temperatures, which is the beginning of the expansion of the universe.
So six quarks, six leptons, five bosons become 17 elementary particles, with neutrinos and gravitons: 19 elementary particles. The Higgs boson has recently been discovered, and scientists at CERN Laboratory are still trying to discover the fundamental particles of the material world. According to the Qur'an, this number can be more and God knows the number.
These are standard elementary particles. When placed inside atoms, they manifest themselves in different ways. For example, quarks increase to 24 by changing colors. Which the above verses refer to.
No one knows the number of elementary particles except God. It should be noted that science has discovered only about 5% of the material world, we have dark energy and dark matter. Which science does not yet have access to. To the extent that human science has the ability to discover them.
In the CERN laboratory, they can achieve this by disintegrating the material. Accordingly, the structure of matter is also based on the number nineteen.
In verse 1 of Sura 35, God's will is to add other forces to it.
The scientific greatness of the verses becomes clear when we put aside the ancient notions and pay attention to these verses with the view of quantum science.

 

[heydarian saeed]

... The beginning of verse 31 of Sura 74 says: "We did not make the angels companions except Nar." The reference to God's agents is at the end of Planck's time. And it confirms that the number 19 has the same nature as elementary particles.
In this verse, the army of God has the same nature as the number nineteen. And this means that all the laws of nature that are angels are soldiers of God. The number of the agents of creation who are angels is considered by God to be their number. That is, it may go higher than nineteen. What are the duties of angels?
First, nineteen are angels. Secondly, they are a force and energy. And third, at the beginning of the expansion of the universe, they were forged. So particles are elementary. Now why are they a force? In Planck's time, all are pure energies that are transformed into matter by the command of God
Saghar is a fiery flame that, due to its high temperature, removes 19 elementary particles from the shells of the atoms and neutrons that dominate this degree of hell.( The temperature is ten to the power of 32 degrees Kelvin) And is pulled out. What are these nineteen elementary particles?
Matter is made up of elementary particles. Quarks, fermions, and gleons have shells inside neutrons and protons, and both inside the nucleus of an atom, and all of these. And they are connected. And only in Planck's time are they free and independent and intertwined.
The components of the material whose shells have been removed are: fermions and bosons. Fermions themselves are divided into leptons and quarks. The force of physics, or the laws of physics known as the force particle, is made up of bosons. And includes: electrons and magnets which are photons.
Quarks always interact with gleons, known as strong nuclei. And the weak nuclear force borne by the two types of needles Z and W. And the Higgs boson, which The accuser elementary particles. Neutrons are also elementary particles that are stable at high temperatures, which is the beginning of the expansion of the universe.
So six quarks, six leptons, five bosons become 17 elementary particles, with neutrinos and gravitons: 19 elementary particles. The Higgs boson has recently been discovered, and scientists at CERN Laboratory are still trying to discover the fundamental particles of the material world. According to the Qur'an, this number can be more and God knows the number.
These are standard elementary particles. When placed inside atoms, they manifest themselves in different ways. For example, quarks increase to 24 by changing colors. Which the above verses refer to.
No one knows the number of elementary particles except God. It should be noted that science has discovered only about 5% of the material world, we have dark energy and dark matter. Which science does not yet have access to. To the extent that human science has the ability to discover them.
In the CERN laboratory, they can achieve this by disintegrating the material. Accordingly, the structure of matter is also based on the number nineteen.
In verse 1 of Sura 35, God's will is to add other forces to it.
The scientific greatness of the verses becomes clear when we put aside the ancient notions and pay attention to these verses with the view of quantum science.
These were all created at the beginning of the creation of the universe. At the moment of expansion at ten to the power of minus 43 to ten to the power of minus 35 seconds is the moment when the universe was full of rays. And it is very compact and expands after ten to the power of minus 35 seconds. And photons are created quickly. And along with the photons, antimatter is also created.
And all particles and antiparticles are created equal. Our universe was made of matter, and where did anti-matter go? Probably parallel to the world. The verse speaks of everything. Stone is also a part of everything, so the concept of marriage in these two verses is not male and female and has a much more meaning.

 

[heydarian saeed]

The following link is to Maududi's introduction to the Quran, surah 111

http://www.islamicity.com/quran/maududi/mau111.html

Here is an extract from it.

Wherever the Holy Prophet went to preach his message of Islam, this man followed him and forbade the people to listen to him. Rabiah bin Abbad ad- Dill has related: "I was a young boy when I accompanied my father to the face of Dhul-Majaz. There I saw the Holy Messenger (may peace be upon him) who was exhorting the people, saying: 'O people, say: there is no deity but Allah, you will attain success. 'Following behind him I saw a man, who was telling the people; `This fellow is a liar: he has gone astray from his ancestral faith.' I asked; who is he? The people replied: He is his uncle, Abu Lahab."


I suspect that Muhammad's uncle knew he was a fake, because he was the one who taught Muhammad the bible: Here is the surah,


PALM FIBRE, THE FLAME, CHAPTER NO. 111
111.001 Perish the hands of the Father of Flame! Perish he!
111.002 No profit to him from all his wealth, and all his gains!
111.003 Burnt soon will he be in a Fire of Blazing Flame!
111.004 His wife shall carry the (crackling) wood - As fuel!-
111.005 A twisted rope of palm-leaf fibre round her (own) neck!

So Muhammad took the trouble, in a book which is supposed to be a final message to all mankind from God, to curse his own uncle and aunt to hellfire for saying he was a false prophet.

Some of what you said was true. But your conclusion was completely wrong. I'm sorry. You are deliberately distorting the truth. And you tempt others. I'm sorry. This is an ugly practice. Think wisely. And talk. Be realistic. Do not follow superstitions.

 

[Pixel42]

Those who deny the Qur'an and the mockers and perverts should read the verses of the Holy Qur'an more carefully.

Those who ridiculously and erroneously believe that the Qu'ran is the word of god should read its verses more carefully.

 

[Lothian]

... The beginning of verse 31 of Sura 74 says: "We did not make the angels companions except Nar." The reference to God's agents is at the end of Planck's time. And it confirms that the number 19 has the same nature as elementary particles.
In this verse, the army of God has the same nature as the number nineteen. And this means that all the laws of nature that are angels are soldiers of God. The number of the agents of creation who are angels is considered by God to be their number. That is, it may go higher than nineteen. What are the duties of angels?
First, nineteen are angels. Secondly, they are a force and energy. And third, at the beginning of the expansion of the universe, they were forged. So particles are elementary. Now why are they a force? In Planck's time, all are pure energies that are transformed into matter by the command of God
Saghar is a fiery flame that, due to its high temperature, removes 19 elementary particles from the shells of the atoms and neutrons that dominate this degree of hell.( The temperature is ten to the power of 32 degrees Kelvin) And is pulled out. What are these nineteen elementary particles?
Matter is made up of elementary particles. Quarks, fermions, and gleons have shells inside neutrons and protons, and both inside the nucleus of an atom, and all of these. And they are connected. And only in Planck's time are they free and independent and intertwined.
The components of the material whose shells have been removed are: fermions and bosons. Fermions themselves are divided into leptons and quarks. The force of physics, or the laws of physics known as the force particle, is made up of bosons. And includes: electrons and magnets which are photons.
Quarks always interact with gleons, known as strong nuclei. And the weak nuclear force borne by the two types of needles Z and W. And the Higgs boson, which The accuser elementary particles. Neutrons are also elementary particles that are stable at high temperatures, which is the beginning of the expansion of the universe.
So six quarks, six leptons, five bosons become 17 elementary particles, with neutrinos and gravitons: 19 elementary particles. The Higgs boson has recently been discovered, and scientists at CERN Laboratory are still trying to discover the fundamental particles of the material world. According to the Qur'an, this number can be more and God knows the number.
These are standard elementary particles. When placed inside atoms, they manifest themselves in different ways. For example, quarks increase to 24 by changing colors. Which the above verses refer to.
No one knows the number of elementary particles except God. It should be noted that science has discovered only about 5% of the material world, we have dark energy and dark matter. Which science does not yet have access to. To the extent that human science has the ability to discover them.
In the CERN laboratory, they can achieve this by disintegrating the material. Accordingly, the structure of matter is also based on the number nineteen.
In verse 1 of Sura 35, God's will is to add other forces to it.
The scientific greatness of the verses becomes clear when we put aside the ancient notions and pay attention to these verses with the view of quantum science.

Let's see what your crappy book says in the verse you cited.

We have appointed only angels to be wardens of the Fire, and their number have We made to be a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve; that those to whom the Scripture hath been given may have certainty, and that believers may increase in faith; and that those to whom the Scripture hath been given and believers may not doubt; and that those in whose hearts there is disease, and disbelievers, may say: What meaneth Allah by this similitude ? Thus Allah sendeth astray whom He will, and whom He will He guideth. None knoweth the hosts of thy Lord save Him. This is naught else than a Reminder unto mortals.

No bisons, quarks, gleons, no particles at all.
Stop lying. The Quran is useless. It tells us nothing of worth. And there is nothing special about 19. It is not the number of fundamental particles.

 

[Scorpion]

Some of what you said was true. But your conclusion was completely wrong. I'm sorry. You are deliberately distorting the truth. And you tempt others. I'm sorry. This is an ugly practice. Think wisely. And talk. Be realistic. Do not follow superstitions.

As far as I am concerned I am telling the truth, which is that Muhammad was a lying bandit who stole most of his dialogue from the bible. He stole the idea of people burning in hellfire, and elaborated on it to make hell as scary as he could imagine, so as to enslave peoples minds with fear and make them obey him. I would dearly love to be able to convince as many Muslims as I can of this and free them from fear.

 

[Scorpion]

Those who deny the Qur'an and the mockers and perverts should read the verses of the Holy Qur'an more carefully.

Tell it to the talking ants at Quran surah 27.18