The supernatural

[steenkh]

Hello Master. Believe that everything is not just this world. You have probably heard of parallel worlds. What are parallel worlds ?!

Parallel worlds are science fiction. They do not actually exist, in the sense that there is not a shred of evidence that they exist.

Why was science not satisfied with Einstein's four dimensions? And provided up to 12 other dimensions. And ... more dimensions !!

The proposed other dimensions are not parallel worlds, and they are proposed to solve actual physical problems.

 

[heydarian saeed]

Even medical science does not know sleep through the interactions of the nervous system and neurons and has no definition for it. Is human knowledge and perception of matter? How does experimental science define it? There is no doubt about the existence of the "soul". Is the soul of nature?

 

[heydarian saeed]

Now that I'm talking to you, I'm asking you to review together some of the scientific material that is relevant to the subject of supernatural proof. Then I will prove it to you through new and up-to-date science.

 

[steenkh]

The way to prove the supernatural is by using nature itself. Nature is a sign that we can transcend through rational and abstract analogy and inference.

Meaningless words. In what way is nature a sign of this transcension?

There are many cases in which man has no justification for its existence from nature.

Philosophy. Physics does deal with “justification”.

The "human mind" has a speed beyond light.

Obvious nonsense. Humans cannot compete with computers in speed, and computers do not compute at the speed of light (electrons have mass).

And it takes time and space. Is it made of nature? How? How does science define it?

Is this a “god in the gaps” argument? If science cannot currently explain something, it must be a god who did it?

Actually, physicists are fairly convinced that no new physics are necessary to explain “minds”. It is the details that are missing.

What about "sleep"? We dream of the past or the future. Or we fly. And has no place and time. What is the scientific justification that sleep is of nature?

I can think of something that doesn’t exist. Is that proof that my mind is supernatural? Likewise, I can dream of a past that did not exist, and I can dream of futures that will never happen.

When you can show that the mind actually can dream of something that will happen, or it it can dream of something real in the past that it could not know, and it is all not a coincidence, then you can come back.

 

[steenkh]

Now that I'm talking to you, I'm asking you to review together some of the scientific material that is relevant to the subject of supernatural proof. Then I will prove it to you through new and up-to-date science.

Bring the material. So far you have only given us promises. And the promise of lab tests has already shown to be an empty promise.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I'd suggest a thread clean up, but I don't think there's a single on topic post (except possibly steenkh's) in the entire thread.

 

[steenkh]

There is no doubt about the existence of the "soul".

That is news to me. I doubt very much that I have a soul. At least I have never seen the slightest hint of evidence for such a thing.

 

[Pixel42]

Now that I'm talking to you, I'm asking you to review together some of the scientific material that is relevant to the subject of supernatural proof. Then I will prove it to you through new and up-to-date science.

The only thing that's relevant to the subject of supernatural proof is objective evidence of the supernatural.

And please learn how to use the quote button. Just tap the 'quote' button of the post you want to reply to (it's in the bottom right hand corner), and type your response under the quote.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

I'd suggest a thread clean up, but I don't think there's a single on topic post (except possibly steenkh's) in the entire thread.

Maybe because it's a tad difficult to tell what the actual topic is...

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Maybe because it's a tad difficult to tell what the actual topic is...

I'll go with-:

research in the lab to prove the supernatural

None has been provided yet, nor do I believe any will be forthcoming.

 

[Scorpion]

Hello. I wish you good health. The Qur'an begins with science and knowledge. Isn't reading and learning joyful? In the Qur'an and the religion of Islam, everything is happiness. The principles of happiness in the Qur'an are: a positive and clear view of worldly life and the use of all blessings - caring for health - avoiding sorrow and despair - remembering God. Aren't these joys? Of course, the joy caused by pride, arrogance and drunkenness is rejected in the Qur'an and Islam. And the reason is that man becomes unconscious. And he may commit a crime. Doesn't this law have a special place in human societies?All countries care about preventing and combating corruption and crime. Happiness is right and according to the principles, there is no problem. My family and I always travel and have fun and enjoy life. And we are always happy. The Qur'an advises the family and happiness by avoiding extremism.
... Imagination and daydreaming and judgment based on suspicion have no place in the Qur'an. The Qur'an cares about existence. Recommends what is and is real. Thank you for your comments.

Everything is happiness in the Quran unless you are an unbeliever.

In which case you will be dragged through boiling liquid in chains and into hellfire. Where your skin will be burnt off and renewed and burnt off again for all eternity. Surah's 4.56 and 22.19 to 22.22 and 40.72

Do you care what happens to unbelievers ?

As for crime, the Quran says cut off the hands of a thief. Surah 5.38

 

[Nowhere Man]

Given that my religion is Islam, I used the Quran, which is a documentary. And my method of reasoning is to use the verses of this book to examine the experiences of scientists in the field of astronomy, space and medicine in this regard.
I concluded at the end of the article to prove the existence of the supernatural.

Consider this: Qur'anic scientific foreknowledge

Also, please use the quote function so readers can know who you are responding to.

Fred

 

[Steve001]

Hello. I wish you good health. The Qur'an begins with science and knowledge. Isn't reading and learning joyful? In the Qur'an and the religion of Islam, everything is happiness. The principles of happiness in the Qur'an are: a positive and clear view of worldly life and the use of all blessings - caring for health - avoiding sorrow and despair - remembering God. Aren't these joys? Of course, the joy caused by pride, arrogance and drunkenness is rejected in the Qur'an and Islam. And the reason is that man becomes unconscious. And he may commit a crime. Doesn't this law have a special place in human societies?All countries care about preventing and combating corruption and crime. Happiness is right and according to the principles, there is no problem. My family and I always travel and have fun and enjoy life. And we are always happy. The Qur'an advises the family and happiness by avoiding extremism.
... Imagination and daydreaming and judgment based on suspicion have no place in the Qur'an. The Qur'an cares about existence. Recommends what is and is real. Thank you for your comments.

I have to say, you certainly are ignorant to whom you are addressing in this forum

 

[Thermal]

heydarian saeed, you claimed to have a proof of the supernatural and we are waiting for the proof. Anything less will be viewed as stalling or making excuses. You need to deliver, without discussion or homework assignments first. Time to pony up, brah.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

There is no doubt about the existence of the "soul".

You are mistaken. There is very considerable doubt about the existence of the "soul". There is very widespread belief that no such thing exists.

 

[Norman Alexander]

This is sad, really. Because Arabic study many centuries ago brought us many great advances in human knowledge, most of which were not predicted or described in the Qur'an. And then the Muslim world turned away from science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:History_of_Islamic_science

 

[Bubba]

When I read the Qu'ran a few years ago I was surprised, and very disappointed, to discover that it consisted almost entirely of rants about nonbelievers, and how important it was for believers to have nothing to do with them, interspersed with bits of the Bible. I had assumed it would contain at least a few uplifting verses, but I could nothing informative or valuable in it at all.

This attempt to relate the vaguest of statements in it to recent scientific discoveries by gold medal worthy feats of mental gymnastics seems to me to be about as pathetic as it's possible to get.

Thnx for saving me the time I might've spent reading it. Actually not hardly.
Everything I read, see, and hear about it reeks.

Bronze age cult.

 

[Bubba]

On the other hand, a cross country friend consistently knows what vegetable I am eating or what color I am painting, and her family says she has always done it.

 

[Bubba]

Hello. I wish you good health. The Qur'an begins with science and knowledge. Isn't reading and learning joyful? In the Qur'an and the religion of Islam, everything is happiness. The principles of happiness in the Qur'an are: a positive and clear view of worldly life and the use of all blessings - caring for health - avoiding sorrow and despair - remembering God. Aren't these joys? Of course, the joy caused by pride, arrogance and drunkenness is rejected in the Qur'an and Islam. And the reason is that man becomes unconscious. And he may commit a crime. Doesn't this law have a special place in human societies?All countries care about preventing and combating corruption and crime. Happiness is right and according to the principles, there is no problem. My family and I always travel and have fun and enjoy life. And we are always happy. The Qur'an advises the family and happiness by avoiding extremism.
... Imagination and daydreaming and judgment based on suspicion have no place in the Qur'an. The Qur'an cares about existence. Recommends what is and is real. Thank you for your comments.

Flush the Quran, please.

 

[Susheel]

Thnx for saving me the time I might've spent reading it. Actually not hardly.
Everything I read, see, and hear about it reeks.

Bronze age cult.

Islam did not develop in the bronze age.