Actually the above is not correct. Since, I think you may not have contributed as often as some of this in this thread, and perhaps you did not therefore notice what actually happened in those exchanges where heydarian was asked about God threatening that non-believers would burn in hell? OK, so here is what actually happened -
- first thing was that heydarian told us that God would kill us all if we did not repent and start believing the Koran etc. Then some of us put it to him that this was surely a very unfair and barbaric God who would do that. Heydarian's response was then to say that it was right for God to take that action against those who heydarain called "infidels" because he said that their refusal to believe was an "attack" on God and all of his family ....
... I then asked heydarian who he believed was here in this thread attacking his God or attacking him (heydarian himself) and his own family ... and his reply was actually that he would indeed surely be forced to "kill" those who attacked him and his family, and he asked rhetorically "is that not right if I and my family are attacked?" ...
... in the next few posts he soon changed that say that "of course I would not actually kill anyone" (I'm quoting him).
So the point there is that heydarian was asked if he supported God and thought God was doing the right thing to kill people merely because they did not abide by the Islamic faith and the words of the Koran. And at first he said it was indeed right for God to do that, and he described that lack of belief/faith by "infidels" as an "attack" which justified murder as a response ... and he then went so far as saying that he too would surely react the same way against those who would "attack him and his family" in that way ... but to emphasise this for you again, it was again stressed to heydarian and pointed out to him repeatedly that he himself was not under any actual physical attack from anyone here and neither was/is any God under any such actual "attack" ... rather what heydarian was calling an "attack" that justified a response of mass murder (e.g. hell for all "infidels") was merely non-belief in the existence of God and the divine authority of the Koran.
Anyway, just to be really clear – I am not making a big deal of any of that. And as I say, heydarain subsequently distanced himself from any such violent actions. But what it did show, apart from others here quoting many times where the Koran does indeed have God saying that the non-believers would be slaughtered, is that at first heydarian began to defend a position on that (ie a position which is actually the position of God in the Koran), until he quite quickly realised that by defending that he was actually personally endorsing the use of ultimate violence to support his religious beliefs. And the only point about any of that at the time, was that those exchanges clearly showed what an extreme indefensible position was being taken by the words in the Koran and hence also by the faithful who found themselves having to argue that such actions must surely be correct because the words in the Koran are those of God himself.
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