The Stimulus Seems to have failed

The point is that almost a trillion dollars has been completely wasted on Keynesian "stimulus", or as I prefer to call it: throwing money in a pile and lighting a match.

That would have been far less destructive. In actuality, the money was used to pilfer scarce goods and services, not to mention assets, from savers, and taxpayers. Simply immolating it in a pile would have at least been a neutral transaction, since it was created out of thin-air to begin with.
 
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Don't be concerned, BAC. That loud roaring sound you just heard was my post going right over the top of your head.

Then you have no answer for the facts presented.
 
Then you have no answer for the facts presented.
Nope. Not at all. I have virtually no interest in the workings of BAC's fervid imagination.


Do you have a comment on BAC's use of a Breitbart web site for evidence on a forum centered on critical thinking
 
Since he presented the same facts from the Freddie Mac itself, no. If you were questioning the source, BAC answered your question. I presume you feel Freddie Mac can be trusted on such things, so your sarcasm sounds more like a diversion to me.
 
If the economy recovers, it's because it would've anyway. If it dives, it's Obama's fault. Heads I win, tails you lose.
 
History 101.

Republicans gained control of the House and Senate in January 1995. Unemployment was 6.25% and the Dow was at 3800.

Republicans retained control of both houses of Congress until the end the 2000. In December 2000, unemployment stood at 3.75% and the Dow was at 10,600.

From January 2001 to the end of 2002, democrats controlled the Senate (or it was split 50/50). Unemployment drifted back up to 6.5% and the Dow fell to 8300.

From January 2003 to the end of 2006, Republicans again controlled both the Senate and House. Unemployment fell to 4% and the Dow soared to 12300.

Then in November 2006, democrats took control of both houses. At that time unemploymnet was at 4.3% and the Dow was at 12,500. Since then unemployment has climbed and the Dow has fallen. Currently unemployments is at 9.5% (it's actually higher than that because they don't count folks who have stopped looking for work) and the Dow is at 10300 (and by most predictions headed downwards come the end of the year).

Seriously, folks, do you think more stimulus is the answer to America's economic problems. Or is the answer even simpler ... just vote Republicans back into control in November. :D
 
Just ignore the fact that it was GOP deregulations that caused the economic collapse, right?
 
Just ignore the fact that it was GOP deregulations that caused the economic collapse, right?

Without the housing bubble collapse, there would have been no bank bailouts, no Lehman bankruptcy, no Countrywide failure, no Fed lending, no AIG, etc., etc., etc. And Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were at the center of the housing bubble collapse. So tbk, you just ignore the fact that when republicans tried to regulate Fannie and Freddie in 2003-2004 ... democrats said no. Democrats insisted everything was ok. Here, the following video clip shows what happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

It shows hearings where democrats in 2004, like Waters, Franks and Schumer, defended Franklin Raines (who, along with fellow democrat Jamie Gorelick, both former members of the Clinton administration, stole almost $100 million out of the system at Fannie Mae, while cooking the books and selling hundreds of billions in mortgages that should never have been sold because they were sure to fail at the first economic downturn).

Let me quote democrat Maxine Waters from it:

"Through nearly a dozen hearings where frankly we were trying to fix what wasn't broke. Mr Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and particular at Fannie Mae. Under the OUTSTANDING leadership of Mr Frank Raines, everything in the 1992 act has worked just fine."

And democrat Representative Lacy Clay:

This hearing is about the political lynching of Franklin Raines

And then there is Barney Franks,

These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

And don't forget that Obama was one of the largest recipients of campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie (right behind democrats Christopher Dodd and John Kerry). He chose Jim Johnson, a democrat who was CEO of Fannie Mae from 1991 to 1998, to help vet his VP choices ... that is until Johnson's underhanded actions at Fannie became public. And even then, that didn't stop Johnson from becoming one of Obama's best campaign donation bundlers.

You sure you want to go there tbk? :D
 
So you don't think the GOP deregulation of the markets had anything to do with the collapse? Also, who proposed TARP?
 
I would like to know what happened to all those "Shovel Ready Jobs" the administration said would be filled with the porkulus-stimulus? Seems the only shovel ready jobs are the ones being used by the administration to spread their BS about a recovery and the porkulus-stimulus plan has worked.

These clowns could not find their way out of a paper bag with a guide dog, compass, boy scout, map, flashlight and a GPS system at their disposal.
 
I would like to know what happened to all those "Shovel Ready Jobs" the administration said would be filled with the porkulus-stimulus?

You mean the ones that GOP Senators and Representatives tried to take credit for, whilst opposing them?
 
No, I am talking about the ones that Biden and Obama said were there when the porkulus/stimulus bill was passed. It was their reason for saying the bill needed to pass. The bill that Nancy Pelosi said had to pass so we could find out what was in it. Gee, are you really this thick?
 
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