The Spiritual is "Other Dimensional" like Stranger Things

[Roger Ramjets]

The Spiritual is "Other Dimensional," like the TV Series "Stranger Things." Is that 4th or 5th Dimensional? Other dimensional. In the Bible, someone like Prophet Ezekiel was a Prophetic Seer. He saw The Spiritual. In Ezekiel 1, Ezekiel has a vision of Angels. He had a vision of "Other Dimensional" things.

You're right to say that Ezekiel's vision was like a TV show, ie. an audio-visual presentation. That doesn't mean it was 'real' anymore than than Stranger Things is 'real'. Biblical visions are messages full of symbolism, not necessarily intended to be interpreted literally.

However even if we do take Ezekiel's vision literally he wasn't talking about another dimension. Ezekiel 1 says:-

4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands.

Remember that this is a vision. Just because Ezekiel 'saw' it inside a cloud doesn't mean there was anyone in the cloud - it was just a 'projection', like a show on TV.

These cherubim were not beings from another dimension, they were living creatures - human but with wings and four faces. They were depicted carrying God's throne on a chariot whose wheels were covered with eyes. This symbolizes God's omnipresence and omniscience. The symbolism is the important part, not the actors or the set. The whole idea of the vision is to convey the message in a form that the audience would understood (this applies whether you believe God sent the vision to Ezekiel or he just made it up).

The US Government has released a lot of UFO data the last four years or so. I would suggest that some of those UFO occurrences were Angels, other dimensional beings, like "Daniel and the Prince of Persia." (Daniel 10)

None of the data suggests angels, which purportedly have wings allowing them to fly like birds between Heaven (a physical place in the sky beyond the clouds, not another 'dimension') and Earth.

UFO means unidentified flying object, ie. anything seen in the sky that wasn't positively identified as a particular aircraft, bird, planet or trick of the light. Being unidentified doesn't make it supernatural or from another dimension, it just means we're not sure what it was.

I saw a UFO in 1969, after a class and their teacher at my school saw it. I immediately recognized it as an airplane (an unusual one for sure, which may be why others imagined it was an alien spacecraft).

I am not a Quantum Physicist. Every so often I find some interesting things....like evidence that CERN started some sort of Satanic Cult after opening a portal or something.

There is no credible evidence for that (whatever 'or something' means).

How did I come to this understanding? Being and doing. I have been working for God since 2014.

You sure about that? God's been AWOL for nearly 2,000 years. He promised to return within the lifetimes of at least some of the people he last spoke to, and hasn't been seen since. I reckon He's probably dead. We've been all the way to outer space and can't find Him anywhere. Looks like he dismantled Heaven too because we can't find that anywhere either.

Spiritual things, they work in reasonable ways.

That hasn't been my experience.

A good place to start towards understanding may be with the Temple of God in Jerusalem. In the Temple of God, there was the Holy of Holies. It was the part of the Temple that the very presence of God dwelt. It was separated from the rest of the Temple by a Curtain or Veil.

...according to the priests who ran the temple. I have doubts. I think it was just something they made up to support their grift. "Oh yeah, God's in there, right behind the curtain. No, you can't speak to Him. Tell us what you want to say and we'll relay the message for you. Now give us your fatted calf and grain and other stuff. God's hungry!"

When Jesus died on the cross, the veil tore. This would be the veil or curtain that separates the Holy of Holies from the rest of the temple. This would be the veil or curtain that separates the spiritual from the physical. An opening of the eyes would be an Apocalypse.

You think it was a portal between demensions? No, It was an ordinary veil separating one physical place from another.

Given man is following the words of Jesus,

Man is not following the words of Jesus. Man isn't even following the fictional words put into Jesus's mouth in the Bible.

 

[catsmate]

You can study the writings of people who have.

Always an inferior method.

I heard it defined once as "our emotional reactions to reality". Ironically I heard it at a Global Atheist Convention.

No bad.

 

[SteveAitch]

...
There are plenty of forward-thinking, human-friendly Christian churches to seek out, if that is your need or want. But he was proud that he was blazing his own trail, even though all of his basic facts were bad. See, if I were to start my own religion I'd bone up on all the various mythologies, find the dogma that works, and then launch The Church of Steve McQueen. You know, replace the cross with a steering wheel and a stick-shift. Cut the commandments to five, chief of them being: Always be COOL, and Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor's Car. I'd make a mint of WWSMD [WhatWouldSteveMcQueenDo] bracelets. Whatever else I'd do, I wouldn't drag the Bible into it. Instead of Mecca or Jerusalem our holy city is Le Mans, in France, and obviously there should be a pilgrimage every June. If I'm starting a religion it should be both fun and profitable.
...

A rather different approach from Philip Larkin's...

If I were called in
To construct a religion
I should make use of water.

Going to church
Would entail a fording
To dry, different clothes;

My litany would employ
Images of sousing,
A furious devout drench,

And I should raise in the east
A glass of water
Where any-angled light
Would congregate endlessly.

 

[theprestige]

You're right to say that Ezekiel's vision was like a TV show, ie. an audio-visual presentation. That doesn't mean it was 'real' anymore than than Stranger Things is 'real'.

I would be very disappointed, if seeing a biblically correct angel in person were on par with watching a TV show.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Maybe I'm late to the party, but isn't the subject a bit of circular logic? Malf'd circular logic.

 

[arthwollipot]

Always an inferior method.

Depends on what your goal is. If your goal is complete textual analysis then yeah, you go back to the original languages. But that's not what everybody wants to do when they study the Bible.