"The Sound of Salvia"

[Orphia Nay]

A "scientific researcher" claims he can simulate the effects of the drug Salvia Divinorum through music.

http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/SalviaDivinorum_FrequencyEmulation/

You can download a free 10 minute sample of the simulation here:

http://www.spiralstarz.com/salvia.htm#free

Yes, the track sounds like the ghastly plinky-plonk music added to the page.

If Salvia Divinorum makes you think you've just tuned into the sound effects of a computer on a Doctor Who show from the 1970s, then this project is a success!

Here are some testimonials from some of the people who have listened to the "music":

http://www.spiralstarz.com/alteredstates.htm

Upon this verdict of observation and experience, I began listening a little more closely to your frequencies and relized it little, if nothing had to do with musical theory and everything to do with cosmically astute math and dynamic. With that being said, as a musician I can hear distinct melody and rhythm (especially the peace harmony feel good elixir) in the frequencies.

Still seeing more and more of those little blue specks/flashes of lights, on a pretty regular basis. Still wish I knew what those little blue specks are.....anybody ?????

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Re: [undergroundlab] Underground Lab Week 2



are they electric blue? if so, Kundalini awakening is occurring...I get those also...hope this helps... ml&l--Andrea

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i Donna!

This is the first week of using the full combo of frequencies. Generally starting with a lower exposure to see how this works with my field. I'm waking up at around 2-3 am on the days I listening. Am also continuing to see the blue spheres every now and then and also other colors are starting to show up like greens and pinks in different shapes. Can feel my third eye pulsing strongly particularly at night. Also aware of more synchronicities happening.

 

[Gate2501]

I am really stoned right now and listening to this.

I am about 5 minutes in and I definitely feel... the urge to pee.

 

[Orphia Nay]

I am really stoned right now and listening to this.

I am about 5 minutes in and I definitely feel... the urge to pee.

Are you sure it's not just an urge to leave the room? Anything to get away from the horrible noise.

 

[JFrankA]

I'll have to hear this when I get home from work.

The little video, though, with the "almost adam and eve" people was enough to convince me to NEVER EVER TRY THE STUFF EVER!!!!

 

[Orphia Nay]

The Tree of Knowledge was a magic mushroom! I think that explains the Bible.


I'm just having a look at their "scientific" experiments "proving" the effects of the Salvia frequencies...

http://www.spiralstarz.com/data.htm

 

[Spektator]

From the title, I thought this was about the flowers called salvia.

Hello, flower, my old friend,
I've come to hear you speak again,
Near the border of your green bed,
I close my eyes and I tilt my head,
And the voices that were echoed in my brain?
Down the drain--
I hear the sound of salvia.

 

[calebprime]

That's a synth with the frequency being modulated randomly with a sample-and hold function, or something similar, with lots of reverb.

(I used to teach this stuff.)

No.

I lasted 5 seconds, had to turn it off.

I've tried Salvia--it was either a complete freak-out (being enveloped by one of the balloons from The Prisoner) or a feeling of slight 'aerial view', with a sense of detachment.

Not ghastly random frequency modulation.

No desire to try it again.


I do think you can trigger some weird sensations with a low buzz-tone, between 20 and 50 hz. Hopefully done in some way that it's not gawd-awful ugly.

One way to do this is to comb-filter any audio--maybe conversation, whatever. Simply copy the signal and delay it repeatedly by the appropriate (consistent) amount against itself.

Hear a buzz, get a buzz. Like looking at a strobe-light. Messes with some timing function in your brain.

The harmonic series, being a 'buzz', has a sort of psychedelic effect on me.

(Look at a strobe, get a seizure, or a migraine?)

 

[Elizabeth I]

The Tree of Knowledge was a magic mushroom! I think that explains the Bible.

Or at least the Book of Revelation...

 

[Orphia Nay]

That's a synth with the frequency being modulated randomly with a sample-and hold function, or something similar, with lots of reverb.

(I used to teach this stuff.)

No.

I lasted 5 seconds, had to turn it off.

I've tried Salvia--it was either a complete freak-out (being enveloped by one of the balloons from The Prisoner) or a feeling of slight 'aerial view', with a sense of detachment.

Not ghastly random frequency modulation.

No desire to try it again.


I do think you can trigger some weird sensations with a low buzz-tone, between 20 and 50 hz. Hopefully done in some way that it's not gawd-awful ugly.

One way to do this is to comb-filter any audio--maybe conversation, whatever. Simply copy the signal and delay it repeatedly by the appropriate (consistent) amount against itself.

Hear a buzz, get a buzz. Like looking at a strobe-light. Messes with some timing function in your brain.

The harmonic series, being a 'buzz', has a sort of psychedelic effect on me.

(Look at a strobe, get a seizure, or a migraine?)

Thanks, calebprime. Maybe this guy has sampled the "freak out" effect of Salvia. Although that wouldn't explain most of the testimonials.

Do you know of any dowloadable examples of a buzz tone we could have a listen to?

Or at least the Book of Revelation...

Yep, I definitely had that book in mind.

 

[FreshHat]

Still seeing more and more of those little blue specks/flashes of lights, on a pretty regular basis. Still wish I knew what those little blue specks are.....anybody ?????

Macular degeneration?

 

[Orphia Nay]

Macular degeneration?

Spoilsport. Kundalini awakening is a much more fun explanation.

 

[Beanbag]

The sound of saliva is usually a gross, hocking sound, followed by a wet splat.

Hey, I'm dyslexic. That's what the thread title looked like to me.

Beanbag

 

[calebprime]

Do you know of any dowloadable examples of a buzz tone we could have a listen to?

grr, first attempt crashed my browser.


Some possibly not-entirely-authentic Tibetan music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNxSf7eMBZ8&feature=related



didgeridoo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g592I-p-dc




and a deliberately debauched piece of my own,

http://www.box.net/shared/m37jhti1og#/shared/m37jhti1og/2/21216706

go to page 2, middle of page if you're not there. List is alphabetical. You can download or listen right from box, if your connection is fast enough.

Only the Searing Incomprehensible --hopefully aptly named.

I recorded an outdoor performance of the 1812 Overture at Harvard with my parabolic mic,

also a steel-drum-marching band,

and recorded my students on the last day of class filling out their evaluation forms for the class,

layered, sliced, diced, combed, delayed, EQ'd, reverbed and flanged,

one student reads a sort of poem:

"Mind is a disease of semen. It is blotted out in orgasm...
yadda yadda...
Only the Searing Incomprehensible"


The weekdays at the college didn't turn out like I planned,
The things that pass for knowledge I can't understand

Listen as I violate the boundaries of the students right before your ears!

Actually, the kid reading the poem is the one who introduced me to Salvia.

pretty good sax-player, fun to have in class.


I calculated a delay-time that matched the key of the 1812 overture (Eb).

You can hear the comb-filtering going in and out--the piece is supposed to sort of nod off. Imagine a former teacher, stoned out of his mind, recalling his class fondly.

For some reason, they started singing national anthems and Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles.

My student ratings were good that year.

I am in an extremely small minority (numbering exactly one) who like this piece.

 

[calebprime]

I've had trouble finding good YouTube drone examples.

This one is ok minus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHPzD7T_huU&feature=fvw


So, I'm a little frustrated that I can't easily find an illustration of something so basic, or bass-ic.

The examples on YouTube are all too high-pitched or too strident or too too.

feedback at around the 7th partial. Bb minus over low C.

Then the didgeredoos up around a major third. E-ish. Conch on E minus, not quite E.

Groove never quite jells...

This isn't great music, hell, it's not even good, but I'm having trouble finding something I like....

 

[calebprime]

I'm now sort of obsessed with trying to make a good drone.

Just trying to get it to sweep through the overtone series in a somewhat musical way.

I'm using Logic Pro, which I still suck at. (at which I still suck?)

1st attempt:

http://www.box.net/shared/m37jhti1og

called bigbuzz.mp3

turn down your speakers, this has some nasty near-dc bass, I think.

 

[Verklagekasper]

That music gives me a headache. I'd rather call it the sound of Jägermeister.

 

[calebprime]

That music gives me a headache. I'd rather call it the sound of Jägermeister.

Yeah, so far, no good.

I'm not going for music, just yet, but trying to just make a good drone.

Resonant filter sweeps of some low harmonically-rich bass with some chorus or flange should do it, but I can't get what I'm hearing, just yet.

As for drugs, I've heard a buzz once from mushrooms, once from nitrous oxide, and once from too much cannabis. They all sounded a little bit different. fwiw. which ain't much.

I think the eerie quality of overtone sweeps comes from the combination of harmonicity and some unusual pitches, especially the primes 7, 11, 13, 17, 19.

7, iirc, is around 30 cents 'narrow'.
11 is around 50 cents 'narrow'
13 is around 60+ cents 'narrow'--compared to 12-tone equal temperament.
17 and 19 are pretty close to et, especially 19, which is almost exactly an equal-tempered minor third.

I'll check the numbers on my next post.

I also think that the right low drone somewhere between about 20 hertz and 50 hertz has a strobe-like effect, and a possibly desirable eerie quality.

Eerie is good.

 

[calebprime]

That music gives me a headache. I'd rather call it the sound of Jägermeister.

btw, be specific about what you were listening to.

Otherwise I'll be afraid that you hated everything.

If it's stuff in my box you're responding to, there's some stuff there that's sketches, or for documentary purposes. There's also stuff that's really polished, took a long time to make. There's good stuff, ok stuff, commercial stuff, non-commercial stuff. There are some fugues, some rock, some jazz, some 12-tone piano music, some science-doc scoring. It can't all be Jagermeister music.

But don't insult me generally.

 

[calebprime]

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7, iirc, is around 30 cents 'narrow'.
11 is around 50 cents 'narrow'
13 is around 60+ cents 'narrow'--compared to 12-tone equal temperament.
17 and 19 are pretty close to et, especially 19, which is almost exactly an equal-tempered minor third.

I'll check the numbers on my next post.

7/4 is 969 cents or 31 cents narrow
11/8 is 551 cents
13/8 is 840.5 cents or 59.5 cents narrow (all compared to 12-tone et.)

17/16=1.0625=104.14 cents, pretty close to et.

19/16=1.1875=297.5 cents, also pretty close to et.

 

[ThatSoundAgain]

But don't insult me generally.

I'm not sure Kasper has gotten far enough in the thread to listen to your stuff - the (very little) context leads me to guess his post was a response to the link in OP, but who knows.