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gumboot said:
People need to just harden up, if you ask me. It shouldn't be illegal to depict illegal or immoral acts. It should only be illegal to perform illegal acts (immoral acts should be compulsory).

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Someone in "PLAYBOY" some years back mentioned that activity which isn't prohibited in Belgium is -mandatory-!
 
Rat said:
I always understood that the true test in a case like this is whether this is the kind of thing you would wish your wife or servants to see.
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As opposed to being the kind of thing you'd wish to see your wife or servants doing?
 
gumboot said:
If you've got a video of a man having sex with an underage girl, the only one who should be prosecuted is the man in the video (okay maybe the camera man, ya know, accomplices).
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I would argue that paying the makers of illegal pornography for a video is like paying a hit man to kill another.

If you possess child pornography you are failing to report an act of abuse on a child. This is a crime in many (most? all?) states.

The above of course only applies to real porn, not simulated porn.
 
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I don't really like the "it can lead to" arguments because it is just way too nebulous. I don't see anyones rights being violated, and no one is hurt. Saying it might be a contributing factor to X, which is a crime, just doesn't do it for me.

Of course, I am no legal expert, and I am rather ignorant of many of our legal systems principles.

Personally, I have high school romances that contain underage sex, and I think it would be incredibly stupid to ban them. Some of them are really good, and I'm not talking about the sex.

Oh, and I think Shotacon is really creepy, but I wouldn't ban it.

I mean, it is ink on paper. I could draw some right now and, whoops, I'm a felon.

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KingMerv00 said:
I would argue that paying the makers of illegal pornography for a video is like paying a hit man to kill another.

If you possess child pornography you are failing to report an act of abuse on a child. This is a crime in many (most? all?) states.

The above of course only applies to real porn, not simulated porn.
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Good point. Okay so I'll amend my position. Purchasing or producing palpable pubescent pornography should be prohibited. Possessing palpable pubescent pornography, or purchasing, possessing, or producing pretend pubescent pornography should be passable.
 
I half feel like drawing child porn just to flaunt the system now.
 
gumboot said:
Good point. Okay so I'll amend my position. Purchasing or producing palpable pubescent pornography should be prohibited.
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Gumboot's gotta good bit a guts by givin' the gubmint a great guide to get back at gangsters.

Possessing palpable pubescent pornography...should be passable.
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Are you opposed to laws that require the reporting of child abuse?
 
gumboot said:
That raises another issue that I've always found utterly absurd.
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Why do you hate the rule of law? Submission to the rule of law is how stuff like the OP crops up. This thread highlights a textbook case of where common sense is dispensed with in slavish submission to the rule of law, hair splitting, and the dancing of angels upon the heads of pins.

See also the law is a ass, Dickens.

(OK, I'll stop doing that for future reference. This is only mildly related to our other discussion.)

DR
 
Darth Rotor said:
Why do you hate the rule of law? Submission to the rule of law is how stuff like the OP crops up. This thread highlights a textbook case of where common sense is dispensed with in slavish submission to the rule of law, hair splitting, and the dancing of angels upon the heads of pins.
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This is really weak. I expect much, much better from you.
 
geni said:
The argument is that by viewing images of underage cartoon characters it will act as a gateway to viewing images of underage real children.

Now to an extent there may be a case. Anyone thinking about bart and lisia engageing in ah stuff is thinking about underage characters engageing in ah stuff. On the other hand there is no evidence of a shift from viewing cartoon porn with underage characters to viewing child pornography.
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The other interesting point is that alt/slash writers and artists had best be watching their backs!!
 
gumboot said:
Submission to the Rule of Law does not take away the right to work to change a law that is considered inappropriate. I would have thought that was rather obvious.
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Don't you get Sith logic?

If it ain't perfect, then it can't be followed at all!
 
gumboot said:
Submission to the Rule of Law does not take away the right to work to change a law that is considered inappropriate. I would have thought that was rather obvious.
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Where did I say it did? :confused:

Should I now ask

"Why do you hate reading for content?"
 
gumboot said:
Do you mean am I opposed to the law that requires the reporting of crime? No. If you are aware of a crime, you should report it.
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So if a person has (but did not pay for) a piece of child porn, they should report the crime but be allowed to keep the porn?
 
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