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The Second Roberts-Fetzer Debate

Just at the witness AA77 section... beautiful work Mark, you decimated him... :D

Fetzer sounds pathetic.

-Gumboot
 
Well, this section was quite different from the first one. Mr Roberts clearly got the better of Fetzer, and by a long way. The main difference i see this time round was the determination to pin down on specifics.

Side note: Anyone else catch Fetzers' body language... closed arms, leaning back in the chair etc. He seems somewhat uncomfortable or defensive???
 
Hyperviolet said:
Well, this section was quite different from the first one. Mr Roberts clearly got the better of Fetzer, and by a long way. The main difference i see this time round was the determination to pin down on specifics.

Side note: Anyone else catch Fetzers' body language... closed arms, leaning back in the chair etc. He seems somewhat uncomfortable or defensive???
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And extremely disrespectful. Considering that donations from the Jref forumites are essentially what paid for that idiot to be there you would think he could be just a wee bit more respectful.
 
Do you think that Fetzer got the beter of Mark in the first installment?
 
And used it to hang himself in the second.

Sooooo.... basically, no plane hit the Pentagon because there wasn't one, but if there was it flew over the top while a different one fired a missile into the Pentagon and then crashed into it, doing no damage and leaving no parts, but just set fire to a bunch of dumpsters which distracted everyone while people poured out of the Pentagon and placed debris all over the lawn., and anyone that claims to have seen anything else is lying, if they actually exist at all that is because really they are just made up too. Ooooooooookay.... Like that guy isn't out to lunch and he forgot to hang up the back in 30mins sign too.
 
PhantomWolf said:
And used it to hang himself in the second.

Sooooo.... basically, no plane hit the Pentagon because there wasn't one, but if there was it flew over the top while a different one fired a missile into the Pentagon and then crashed into it, doing no damage and leaving no parts, but just set fire to a bunch of dumpsters which distracted everyone while people poured out of the Pentagon and placed debris all over the lawn., and anyone that claims to have seen anything else is lying, if they actually exist at all that is because really they are just made up too. Ooooooooookay.... Like that guy isn't out to lunch and he forgot to hang up the back in 30mins sign too.
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In a nutshell..this is the current uncle Fester version...
 
~enigma~ said:
I gotta say that the face of surprise on uncle Fester in #2 was classic. BTW, I loved when Gravy told him that he can let go now :)
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I contemplated saying, "Feel free to hang on. I know it's a bumpy ride."

I haven't watched the shows yet. Will do so tomorrow. Thanks, Ron!
 
Gravy said:
I contemplated saying, "Feel free to hang on. I know it's a bumpy ride."

I haven't watched the shows yet. Will do so tomorrow. Thanks, Ron!
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You should have...I would have paid you to tell uncle Fester you feel the same way...maybe you could meet after the show. I would have loved to see him haul ass out of the studio :D
 
Just watched this video.

I think I can sum up Fetzer's position on The Pentagon as follows: All your evidence that a 757 hit The Pentagon is wrong because a 757 didn't hit The Pentagon.

Wow. What a 'tard.
 
Good job, Mark and Ron!

Do we have a tally on how many times Fetzer changes the subject in these? He did a biggy in this one with his "the Saddam that was caught was fake" response to "why hasn't the US announced Osama's death to win the election if he's dead according to you?"

His dodgic is astounding. He goes from:

"If there was a plane at the Pentagon," to
"The black box found proves the plane flew over the Pentagon" to
"I believe there was a plane that hit the Pentagon, just not a 757".


What exactly does he believe? I don't think even he knows. He just disagrees with anything supporting the "official story". What a sad, strange man.
 
Gravy said:
I contemplated saying, "Feel free to hang on. I know it's a bumpy ride."

I haven't watched the shows yet. Will do so tomorrow. Thanks, Ron!
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When you were telling him not to interrupt, I almost died laughing. That was hilarious. It honestly had me in mind of a parent telling off a badly behaved child.

-Gumboot
 
I wonder why you guys almost always debate Fetzer on MSM?

Fetzer is most certainly not a good representant for the truth movement. In fact, many believe him to be a disinfo agent.

Unfortunately, he is not a bad debater. Not having seen the debate I guess that he whipped Gravy butt.
 
Not having seen the debate I guess that he whipped Gravy butt.

Pahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Mr "There wasn't a plane, well maybe there was but it flew over the pentagon while another one hit it and anything you say is a lie" Fetzer????? Mr "Those aren't the airline manifests because they have the hijackers on them and the airline manifests don't"???? Bahahahahahahahahahaha. You should do stand up pagan
 
Yea, Pagan, pretty much the only way you could say he 'whipped Gravy butt' is by not watching the debate.
 
pagan said:
I wonder why you guys almost always debate Fetzer on MSM?

Fetzer is most certainly not a good representant for the truth movement. In fact, many believe him to be a disinfo agent.

Unfortunately, he is not a bad debater. Not having seen the debate I guess that he whipped Gravy butt.
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So, who are the good representatives of your movement, and by what process (or processes) do you determine who is and who is not a “dfisnfo agent”, because to my eyes and mind Fetzer is no nuttier than many, many other conspiracy theorists, and much more coherent and rational than some.
 
I have Pagan on ignore, but he should be reminded that Ron did 2 shows with Les Jamieson, founder of NY911truth, and we did 2 shows with the Loose Change guys. Along with Fetzer, that's a fair sample of "truth" movement thought.
 
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