The rumors were true.


Inertia?
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Don't forget that Mac PCs are almost universally "prettier" than other PCs. Design and graphics types like a pretty machine. That has a LOT to do with it.

Of course inertia/history plays a part and don't forget ignorance. Many Mac users in these fields quote that you can't run their apps on PCs or they don't run as well or all sorts of other things. None of them will have tried.
 
Darat said:
Conceded. But that is because (as I said above) there were times that Macs were undoubtedly superior to any other platform (that mere mortals could afford) for certain types of applications - publishing being the major one.

However I would contend that is not the case now and hasn’t been for many years. (And even some of the traditional Mac supporting software houses have shown signs of turning away from the Mac, e.g. Adobe.)
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Adobe went some time ago, they haven't been Mac-exclusive for over a decade. It was a costly transition for them, however.

The advantages in using a Mac in these fields is not openly apparent, but those who use them have heard the "just as good" arguements for ages and it still continue to use a Mac. The little things add up. Too many folks assume that playing with Photoshop to make funny pics is the same game as using Photoshop on a professional level.

I have a PC and Mac at work. The PC is what I do my ordinary stuff on, and the Mac is mostly for my photo studio work for the catalog. While I have Photoshop on both it infinitely easier to do the on-screen work with the Mac. I can't put my finger on why, but it is.
 
heath said:
Of course inertia/history plays a part and don't forget ignorance. Many Mac users in these fields quote that you can't run their apps on PCs or they don't run as well or all sorts of other things. None of them will have tried.
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I have. I can say that I was not impressed with the PC and photoshop. Once I got a Mac to use I never looked back. Repeating "just as good" over and over doesn't make it true.

On the other hand, when running non-graphic apps, the PC certainly is more smooth. There might be a processor difference there, however, but that can't be all of it.
 
kookbreaker said:
I have a PC and Mac at work. The PC is what I do my ordinary stuff on, and the Mac is mostly for my photo studio work for the catalog. While I have Photoshop on both it infinitely easier to do the on-screen work with the Mac. I can't put my finger on why, but it is.
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My bold.

I think it's because of the pretty, rounded edge screen and keyboard ;p

here might be a processor difference there, however, but that can't be all of it.
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Not for long...

I win by circular reference back to this thread :D
 
heath said:
My bold.

I think it's because of the pretty, rounded edge screen and keyboard ;p
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Hee hee.

Seriously, though, there was a time when Mac cases and such were as dull as dishwater (pre-iMac). They still were the standard in the fields I mentioned.
 
What I have read indicates that Apple is targeting better laptops. When it comes to laptop power optimization, Intel is tops in innovation, i.e. Centrino.
 
Darat said:
Without trying to starting an OS flame but there hasn't really been much of a logical reason to be buying an Apple PC for many years.
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There is one: It is the easiest way of getting a Unix laptop where you can get every peripheral working by simply plugging it in.
 
That news post only said Apple was going to use Intel chips. The news post said nothing about x86 platform. In fact, it might even be that IA64.

x86 is old, crappy and dated. Hell, 8086 ring a bell?

8084 or something then
8086 <--- pong
80286 <-- commander keen
80386 <--- wolfenstein
80486, bla bla. <--- doom

Then came the i586 crap when Pentiums and AMD came about and processor extensions like MMX & all that.

MacOS is an operating system that 'works'. Windows hoever 'doesnt'. I still prefer to use PC though. Two words:
Three Button Mouse.
 
DavoMan said:
That news post only said Apple was going to use Intel chips. The news post said nothing about x86 platform. In fact, it might even be that IA64.

x86 is old, crappy and dated. Hell, 8086 ring a bell?

8084 or something then
8086 <--- pong
80286 <-- commander keen
80386 <--- wolfenstein
80486, bla bla. <--- doom

Then came the i586 crap when Pentiums and AMD came about and processor extensions like MMX & all that.

MacOS is an operating system that 'works'. Windows hoever 'doesnt'. I still prefer to use PC though. Two words:
Three Button Mouse.
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Well Job seemed very proud to be showing that his copy of OSX was running on a Pentium 4.
 
LW said:
There is one: It is the easiest way of getting a Unix laptop where you can get every peripheral working by simply plugging it in.
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Try a new distribution of Linux.. :p

Even on my Lifebook with its crappy transmeta processor, weird screen resolution and chipset Mandrake (or whatever they've renamed themselves to) found all my peripherals, from printers to cameras to usb drives... Whereas I’ve a few USB peripherals that work fine under Linux and Windows XP but my OSX Tiger won’t talk to..
 
kookbreaker said:
Hee hee.

Seriously, though, there was a time when Mac cases and such were as dull as dishwater (pre-iMac). They still were the standard in the fields I mentioned.
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They might have been dull but they were still better looking then most PCs.
 
I had a LCII. The Mac equivilent of a 286. It had ON BOARD video, sound, and even voice synthesis.

And full graphical operating system. But about that OSX-P4 thing - cool bananas. Theres a beta/alpha version of OSX about that runs on a P4.


Fellas this could signal the end to Windows. I would drop Windows for OSX on x86 in a second!!
 
DavoMan said:
Fellas this could signal the end to Windows. I would drop Windows for OSX on x86 in a second!!
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But you wouldn't drop it for OSX on PPC?
 
It does make me wonder if Apple will start selling OSX to run on non-Apple Macs; it could easily come-up with a "Certified to run OSX" scheme to get around compatibility issues. OSX going head to head with Windows would be a very interesting contest.
 
Darat said:
Try a new distribution of Linux.. :p

Even on my Lifebook with its crappy transmeta processor, weird screen resolution and chipset Mandrake (or whatever they've renamed themselves to) found all my peripherals, from printers to cameras to usb drives... Whereas I’ve a few USB peripherals that work fine under Linux and Windows XP but my OSX Tiger won’t talk to..
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Just out of curiousity, what might these peripherals be?

lFair & Balanced Statement: I love my DP 2.5Ghz G5 tower and 23-inch Cinema Display, but I concede all I've ever used in 13+ years of computing is a Mac.

Michae
 
coalesce said:
Just out of curiousity, what might these peripherals be?

lFair & Balanced Statement: I love my DP 2.5Ghz G5 tower and 23-inch Cinema Display, but I concede all I've ever used in 13+ years of computing is a Mac.

Michae
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The two I remember off the top of my head are a very old HP flatbed scanner, probably one of the first with a USB port, and a Hauppauge USB TV tuner thingy (that is temperamental to say the least).
 
Thanks. I'm glad to know that they weren't new things, but somehow I don't think you take any joy in my discovery.

Michael
 
LW said:
There is one: It is the easiest way of getting a Unix laptop where you can get every peripheral working by simply plugging it in.
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...and another one. It is the only easy and comfortable way to learn to program in an elegant and modern cpu architecture (the PowerPC).
Obviously, few people works at low level these days...and that's a pity.
 
Whats to write at the low level other than compilers & things? I couldn't see me writing a modern game at low-level. Maybe the core. Hey, I couldn't see me writing a modern game at all :P
 
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