The Roe Countdown

[JoeMorgue]

Roe ve Wade is dead;just a matter of when.

And then the Civil War, we know.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Roe ve Wade is dead;just a matter of when.

Maybe if Breyer dies and another conservative ghoul gets his seat.

Much more likely that Roe is incrementally defanged, while never actually being overturned. By letter, it will still be law. In spirit, dead as disco.

It's pretty much on life support in conservative states already. Just a couple more nudges and it's over.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Maybe if Breyer dies and another conservative ghoul gets his seat.

Much more likely that Roe is incrementally defanged, while never actually being overturned. By letter, it will still be law. In spirit, dead as disco.

It's pretty much on life support in conservative states already. Just a couple more nudges and it's over.

I see it now abortion only in the first two weeks of a pregnancy, right up until you have sex.

 

[Emily's Cat]

I never thought I'd be watching my rights get stripped away on a daily basis. I'm just so angry at all of the politicians right now.

 

[The Atheist]

Looks like the poll option of before 31/12/22 wins, because it's now been overturned in Texas, and similarly conservative insane far-right states will follow.

 

[cosmicaug]

Looks like the poll option of before 31/12/22 wins, because it's now been overturned in Texas, and similarly conservative insane far-right states will follow.

There's no only "overturned in Texas". Roe v. Wade is either the "law of the land" or it is not. As long as Texas is part of "the land", if it's overturned in Texas it means it's not the "law of the land" (notwithstanding Lone Star secessionist fantasies).

 

[TurkeysGhost]

BREAKING: By a 5–4 vote, with Roberts joining the liberals, the Supreme Court REFUSES to block Texas' six-week abortion ban.

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1433278317269028865

A 5-4 vote. No single person had more power to stop this from happening that RBG. Her refusal to secure her seat for another liberal justice is going to doom a generation, if not more, to right wing rule. What an absolute putz.

ETA: Maybe I'm wrong. RBG: total moron, or crypto-accelerationist?

 

[lionking]

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1433278317269028865

A 5-4 vote. No single person had more power to stop this from happening that RBG. Her refusal to secure her seat for another liberal justice is going to doom a generation, if not more, to right wing rule. What an absolute putz.

ETA: Maybe I'm wrong. RBG: total moron, or crypto-accelerationist?

Oh **** me. The US is now officially a basket case. Used to be a nice, progressive, decent country. No longer.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

justice breyer's book, about how the supreme court is not political, drops next week

https://twitter.com/The_Law_Boy/status/1433286483297935365

How bad do things have to get before liberals stop saying braindead things like this?

Any judge who ever says something like this should be automatically disqualified for further advancement. The stakes are simply too high for clueless rubes to have lifetime appointment.

 

[The Atheist]

There's no only "overturned in Texas". Roe v. Wade is either the "law of the land" or it is not. As long as Texas is part of "the land", if it's overturned in Texas it means it's not the "law of the land" (notwithstanding Lone Star secessionist fantasies).

And now that it's officially sanctioned, it's going to happen in a lot more states very quickly, so no, not the whole USA, but a very large geographical majority.

Excuse me while I go track people who pooh-poohed the idea that USA is becoming a de facto stone age theocracy...

ETA: Maybe I'm wrong. RBG: total moron, or crypto-accelerationist?

Neither, just human.

She fell into the trap of thinking Hillary was going to win and she would be replaced by a soul daughter.

 

[angrysoba]

I never thought I'd be watching my rights get stripped away on a daily basis. I'm just so angry at all of the politicians right now.

Though it is the Republicans who deserve the vast majority of your ire.

 

[angrysoba]

I see it now abortion only in the first two weeks of a pregnancy, right up until you have sex.

Maybe they will ban sex. Except in cases of marriage, rape and incest.

 

[mumblethrax]

Neither, just human.

She fell into the trap of thinking Hillary was going to win and she would be replaced by a soul daughter.

There's no indication that this is true. According to RBG, her reasons for not retiring were that she was more liberal than any nominee that could get through the approval process. She also made comments about following the Rehnquist model--ie, serving until she dropped dead. I'm sure she would have preferred to die during a Clinton administration, but then she probably would have preferred not to die at all.

I think there's just a tendency for Very Important People to regard themselves as irreplaceable. The world just gets worse when they aren't around anymore, so stick around as long as possible. It doesn't occur to them to mitigate the harm that comes with the inevitable.

Anyway, this is all a very stupid way to run things.

 

[Babbylonian]

There's no indication that this is true. According to RBG, her reasons for not retiring were that she was more liberal than any nominee that could get through the approval process. She also made comments about following the Rehnquist model--ie, serving until she dropped dead. I'm sure she would have preferred to die during a Clinton administration, but then she probably would have preferred not to die at all.

Roberts is more liberal than any nominee a Republican could nominate and get confirmed, which is what RBG's logic didn't take into account.

 

[casebro]

Wasn't the issue for today staying the law from going into effect? Such a stay would not have implied ruling on this one way or the other.

Lack of standing now? It was a 'shadow decision'. New suit to follow?

 

[theprestige]

Looks like the poll option of before 31/12/22 wins, because it's now been overturned in Texas, and similarly conservative insane far-right states will follow.

No. That's not how federal law and supreme court rulings work in the US. The only way to satisfy the condition, Roe v Wade is overturned, is if the supreme court issues a new ruling that overturns it. What Texas has done is something else. Texas is attempting to work around the restrictions placed on them by Roe v Wade, which is still very much in effect in Texas.

 

[PhantomWolf]

This is RBG's legacy. All the things she worked for over a long life of advocacy are being wiped out because she refused to play the game.

Breyer seems dead set on repeating her error. It's depressing how bad the liberals are at this.

I don't know why you insist on repeating this lie. Trump put three Justices on the SC giving them a 6 to 3 majority. Even had RBG retired early, Trump still would have gotten two seats, they'd have a 5-4 majority and would still be attempting this crap.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Though it is the Republicans who deserve the vast majority of your ire.

I don't share your view on that.

 

[JoeMorgue]

I don't know why you insist on repeating this lie.

Because it's not about RBG at all anymore but his, at this point utterly insane, massive hatred of mainstream, centrist Democrats and his idea that they can do nothing right and his need to remind us he thinks this (and is therefore more pure and better than us) every chance he gets.

He's not a tainted Democrat like the rest of us but a pure, evolved Progressive and he will make damn sure we don't forget it.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

I don't know why you insist on repeating this lie. Trump put three Justices on the SC giving them a 6 to 3 majority. .

But the vote he is blaming on RBG went 5-4, not 6-3, with all of Trump's appointees being amongst the 5.