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The Punishment of Gaza

E.J.Armstrong

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The oppression and persecution of the Palestinians by Israel has long been documented, yet is still denied by the supporters of the apartheid state. The Israeli state is desperate to stop the world from hearing about the human rights abuses they commit on a daily basis against the Palestinians. Now you can read the testimony of an Israeli about the facts of those human rights abuses.

The book is 'The Punishment of Gaza' by Gideon Levy. It is published by Verso Books and is available for £8.99p.

I urge people to buy the book and learn what has been happening for themselves.

Mr levy was interviewed recently by the Independent newspaper in the UK. The article can be seen here: - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...n-israel-or-just-the-most-heroic-2087909.html

That article includes this appalling fact.
'...He reported that day on a killing, another of the hundreds he has documented over the years. As twenty little children pulled up in their school bus at the Indira Gandhi kindergarten, their 20 year-old teacher, Najawa Khalif, waved to them – and an Israel shell hit her and she was blasted to pieces in front of them. He arrived a day later, to find the shaking children drawing pictures of the chunks of her corpse. The children were “astonished to see a Jew without weapons. All they had ever seen were soldiers and settlers.”...'

In a really disturbing revelation - that is corroborated by the posts of some people on JREF - he tells the Independent: -
'...There’s a whole machinery of brainwashing in Israel which really accompanies each of us from early childhood, and I’m a product of this machinery as much as anyone else. [We are taught] a few narratives that it’s very hard to break. That we Israelis are the ultimate and only victims. That the Palestinians are born to kill, and their hatred is irrational. That the Palestinians are not human beings like us? ...'

Let me repeat that last point. Israelis are taught that the Palestinians are not human like them. Where in history do you find that untermensch claim being made about entire groups of people? Throughout history that type of official degradadtion is designed to enable the most disgusting acts of inhumanity to be carried out on the targets of the demonisation. And it is being used by descendants of people who have repeatedly suffered from the same appalling demonisation. Israel is repeating that disgusting demonisation programme.

Mr Levy goes on to tell the world about how the IDF has attempted to kill him and how Netanyahu bragged abut destroying the Oslo 'peace' talks A man supposedly now engaged in trying to find 'peace'.

'...Now, he says, he is convinced it was “a scam” from the start, doomed to fail. How does he know? “There is a very simple litmus test for any peace talks. A necessity for peace is for Israel to dismantle settlements in the West Bank. So if you are going to dismantle settlements soon, you’d stop building more now, right? They carried on building them all through Oslo. And today, Netanyahu is refusing to freeze construction, the barest of the bare minimum. It tells you all you need.”

He says Netanyahu has – like the supposedly more left-wing alternatives, Ehud Barak and Tzipip Livni – always opposed real peace talks, and even privately bragged about destroying the Oslo process. In 1997, during his first term as Israeli leader, he insisted he would only continue with the talks if a clause was added saying Israel would not have to withdraw from undefined “military locations” – and he was later caught on tape boasting: “Why is that important? Because from that moment on I stopped the Oslo accords.” If he bragged about “stopping” the last peace process, why would he want this one to succeed?...'

The supporters of the apartheid state of Israel have shown that will do everything they can to stop you finding out the truth. In turn and as witnessed on this site they

1/ Accuse people who highlight the truth as anti-semitic. The desperation is evident already in that very common tactic.
2/ They will try to demonise those who tell the truth. How do they do that? Rather than discuss the topic of the thread, they try to derail threads about Israel. They call people names. They lie about them and about what they say. They simply cannot bear the truth about what Israel is doing to be highlighted and use some of the same tactics endured by Mr Levy on this site. You can watch this happening on almost any thread about Israel right here on JREF. It can be very enlightening to see how desperate the supporters of Israel get in their attempts to stop debate about this important topic.

To see it in operation simply carry on reading this thread. I will highlight it every time it occurs.

For the avoidance of doubt this thread is also about the behaviour of the site supporters of the apartheid state of Israel and its human rights abuses.

The state of Israel and all their supporters on JREF simply cannot bear you finding out the truth. By reading Mr Levy's book you will find out what they don't want you to know.
 
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I'm sorry, your post is a bit unclear. Are you for or against Israel's policies in regards to Gaza? It's kind of vague.
 
But is it time to pull pull the international net tighter around the criminals in Tel Aviv?
 
"By reading Mr Levy's book you will find out what they don't want you to know."

Sounds a little conspiratorial.. much like the rest of your post. I wish people wouldn't hijack words like "apartheid", "oppression" and "persecution". There are people in this world that are truly suffering and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict grabs attention away from this every time Israel or the Palestinians pass gas.

And unlike other conflict around the world, the Palestinians can end this in a heartbeat. All they have to do is support peace instead of violence and recognize that there are over six million Jews, Christians and Arabs living side by side with them that deserve to live in peace without constant rocket attacks, kidnappings, drive by shootings and suicide bombings.

The "Israel is a brutal apartheid fascist Zio-Nazi regime" conspiracy deserves its own topic thread on JREF.
 
The oppression and persecution of the Palestinians by Israel

LOL!

Don't you find it funny that with all the wealth in the Arab world today, the Palestinians are kept dirt poor, stupid, living in **** and squallar?
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Why don't you ask their Arab brothers why this is so?

The Palestinians are poor bullet catching sandbags for Islam, the used propaganda tools for the rest of the inhuman arab vermin to use as throw away fodder.

They mean nothing to the arabs...Gaza is an Arab run Treblinka to house and slaughter Palestinian children for that rug humping, camel raping, child mollesting profit called Mohammad.
 
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Darling, hate and ignorance we can tolerate, but poor spelling? There are limits.

Hate? So who do you accuse of hate and why?

Isn't using people as bullet catching pawns for a maniac religion hate?

Isn't keeping a people poor, underfed, brainwashed and as ready reserves to catch bullets and wear bombs for propaganda hate?

Perhaps you need to stop living in lefty loo loo land.

What is "rug humping?" Sounds like something I may want to try at some point.

You could travel to Gaza and find out.

Ok, I think danrush counts as the person crazy enough

Crazy people are those of the leftist mentality who think the Palestinians are suffering because of Israel.
 
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Hery E.J., is there anything that Hamas could do to help the people in Gaza?

Like renounce their mindless jihad, and seek a lasting peace with Israel?
 
"By reading Mr Levy's book you will find out what they don't want you to know."

Sounds a little conspiratorial.. much like the rest of your post. I wish people wouldn't hijack words like "apartheid", "oppression" and "persecution". There are people in this world that are truly suffering and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict grabs attention away from this every time Israel or the Palestinians pass gas.

Notice another argument typically used by supporters of the apartheid government in Israel. The attempt to claim there is nothing happening of note. Despite the persecution of Palestinians that is a daily occurrence. This is the denial of history argument in operation.

The reason people use words like pogrom, apartheid, oppression and persecution is that they are the truth. You and other supporters of Israel may not like the truth but happily, you cannot stop people from telling the truth.

And unlike other conflict around the world, the Palestinians can end this in a heartbeat. All they have to do is support peace instead of violence and recognize that there are over six million Jews, Christians and Arabs living side by side with them that deserve to live in peace without constant rocket attacks, kidnappings, drive by shootings and suicide bombings.
Notice how this supporter of the apartheid regime in Tel Aviv blames the persecution of the Palestinians - not the actual perpetrators Israel. This is a fairly standard attempt to avoid the truth. Always blame the victims. It is standard Israeli government propaganda of the sort described in the book.

I guess he/she blames the Palestinians for the erection of all the buildings on occupied territories. I guess he/she thinks the Palestinians are going out in the middle of the night while no-one is looking and building all the illegal settler houses. Here we see exactly what the book describes in common operation on JREF.
 
LOL!

Don't you find it funny that with all the wealth in the Arab world today, the Palestinians are kept dirt poor, stupid, living in **** and squallar?
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Why don't you ask their Arab brothers why this is so?

The Palestinians are poor bullet catching sandbags for Islam, the used propaganda tools for the rest of the inhuman arab vermin to use as throw away fodder.

They mean nothing to the arabs...Gaza is an Arab run Treblinka to house and slaughter Palestinian children for that rug humping, camel raping, child mollesting profit called Mohammad.

Here we see what Mr Levy describes in actual operation here on JREF before your very eyes.

Notice the naked, deep, racial hatred for Arabs and for an entire world religion.

This type of hate speech is a result of telling the truth about Israel.

This is what brave people like Mr Levy have to put up with on a daily basis.

This a true sign of how desperate the supporters of Israel are to stop the world from hearing the truth.
 
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Crazy people are those of the leftist mentality who think the Palestinians are suffering because of Israel.

Notice yet another tactic commonly used by supporters of the apartheid regime in Israel. Total denial of history and total denial of what the world can see happening on their TV sets.

In this type of argument it does not matter that the world can see the suffering. Every one who sees the Israelis stopping sick people from getting to hospital' or who watches settlers as they destroy Palestinian trees, or see white phosphorus bombs being used in civilian areas in a crime against humanity are clearly deluded.

This is the Don Quixote argument - in spades.
 
This is all you can do lefty? Please explain to me what good the Arab world has done to advance the lives of the Palestinian people over the past 50 years?

Here we have the utter contempt for Arabs that Mr Levy talks about in his book.
 
Here we have the utter contempt for Arabs that Mr Levy talks about in his book.

what is your response to Egypt, Lebanon and other Arab nations not offering their Palestinian refugees the option of citizenship, the right to buy property, the right to vote, and the right to hold a government job?

mind you, this includes children and grandchildren of these refugees, who were born in Lebanon, Egypt, etc..
 
I'm so sorry. Normally your hundreds of Israel threads go so well, too, and you accomplish so very much with them.

Notice once agin the typical post of a supporter of the apartheid government in Israel. He/she makes absolutely no attempt to discuss the topic of the thread - exactly as predicted in the OP.

That open attempt to derail a thread about a book presenting the facts about what Israel is doing to the Palestinians shows how desperate the supporters of the apartheid regime in Israel have become.

Next example please.
 
They mean nothing to the arabs...Gaza is an Arab run Treblinka to house and slaughter Palestinian children for that rug humping, camel raping, child mollesting prophet called Mohammad.

wow....Godwin AND bigotry against Islam...all in the same post.

oh, and I fixed your spelling.
 
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I would support an E.J. Armstrong vs danrush debate, mano a mano. Is there a way to lock both of them in the same thread?

Notice one of the more common tactics by supporters of Israel. This poster has posted a number of times now on this thread but has failed to address the substantive topic once.

What do you think the chances are that they will ever do so? I suspect no chance at all. Let's see how accurate that prediction turns out to be.
 
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This thread is off to a bad start. Keep it on topic and unbickery or the rest of the thread will be dumped.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky
 
The Palestinians just backed out of the peace talks -- AGAIN.

These people DO NOT want peace and they couldn't be more obvious about it.
 
The Palestinians just backed out of the peace talks -- AGAIN.

i have a better idea. since Israel thinks its fine and dandy to continue building settlements in the West Bank, while claiming to seek an end to the Israel-Palestine conflict, I suggest the Palestinians resume attacks on Israelis....while at the same time continueing their negotiations.

sounds perfectly logical to me.
 
The PLO officially recognized Israel in the early 1990s...and the PA in the later 1990s.
PNC still has to add that to the PLO accord. Whole thread attributed to this very issue. Double speak doesn't count really. Missed the article where the PLO directed Hamas to commit terrorist attacks when the 2000 peace accords were breaking down?

Guess so.
 

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