The Puerto Rico Thread

Thermal said:
Freaking Trump. Still tweeting that 6-18 people died in PR as a result of Maria, and claiming 3,000 is a political slam against him.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-3000-people-die-puerto-rico-hurricanes-blames/story?id=57796141
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" .....This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!"
 
Captain_Swoop said:
" .....This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!"
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I wonder if the stats will show a sudden massive jump in child/infant mortality (?)... and how he'll explain that away.
 
How Trump successfully handled the hurricane that hit Puerto Rico:



 
Stacko said:
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The last vote was 97% in favor of becoming a state. Of course the GOP will never let that happen with DC and American Samoa's purgatories.
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I do not want DC to become a state;I am in favor of the Vatican City Solution:
Carve out a small territory ..probably the Mall and it's environs which have almost zero residential population;...retain federal ownership over them,and give the rest od DC back to Maryland.
 
Aridas said:
Remember the pallets of bottled water left out in the open? Looks like FEMA is now admitting that they left them out there to save money.

Saving tens of millions for resources that weren't distributed anyways isn't a horrible deal, honestly. That they weren't distributed is a whole different issue, of course.

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From the link;


Bahamonde claimed FEMA began moving the water in January because the agency was storing more than 1,100 containers on the island at a cost of about $300,000 per day. FEMA then told the Puerto Rican government in April that it had an excess of supplies and began accepting requests from local agencies to take that surplus off its hands.
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They were paying around $300 per container every day for storage container rental?

We never paid that much per month for containers that had been fully fitted out as field offices, complete with doors, windows, electrical wiring, plumbing, and HVAC.

Sounds to me like they could have found some more useful ways to save money. Like not taking price gouging contracts.
 
Aridas said:
Remember the pallets of bottled water left out in the open? Looks like FEMA is now admitting that they left them out there to save money.

Saving tens of millions for resources that weren't distributed anyways isn't a horrible deal, honestly. That they weren't distributed is a whole different issue, of course.

Also of some relevance to this thread...

Calling out their names. Here are 487 who died in Puerto Rico that Trump denies.
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Not a huge fan of the Democratic Party, but Trump is a complete disaster who neglects the basic welfare of his fellow humans. Obama wasn't perfect but sickening stuff like this never happened under him and you always felt he cared for his fellow man no matter what their beliefs.
 
quadraginta said:
From the link;


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They were paying around $300 per container every day for storage container rental?

We never paid that much per month for containers that had been fully fitted out as field offices, complete with doors, windows, electrical wiring, plumbing, and HVAC.

Sounds to me like they could have found some more useful ways to save money. Like not taking price gouging contracts.
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Trump, of course, still doesn't get what went wrong. His references to the heckuva job he did in the Maria recovery effort totally missed the point, as always. He focused on how they did so much, but it just was so much more difficult because it was an island and had poor infrastructure to begin with. He can't be held responsible for that problem.


Well, yes, you can, Mr. President. That's the point of being President.

The problem with the Maria recovery was precisely that Trump and his administration did indeed treat it just like any other hurricane recovery effort, but with more problems because it was on an island. They tried to follow the same playbook in a different game. If he were a competent man, with a grasp of geography and good organizational skills, he would have recognized that in this case, bottled water was a very bad idea, and he would have had the military in place on day one to start rebuilding washed out bridges, filtering water, setting up pumping stations, and doing all the sorts of things that can only be done by a large force of people ready to move at a moments notice, and who don't need contract negotiations. i.e. the military. Trump could have done that. Only Trump could have done that. Trump didn't do that.


It would have saved lives and been no more expensive, but instead he followed standard procedure. His fault. He is to blame.
 
Belz... said:
Unholy mother of Hell.

FEMA chief partially blames Puerto Rico death toll on 'spousal abuse'.
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from the moron:
"You might see more indirect deaths occur as time goes on because people have heart attacks due to stress, they fall off their house trying to fix their roof, they die in car crashes because they went through an intersection where the stop lights weren't working.

"The other thing that goes on – there's all kinds of studies on this that we can take a look at – spousal abuse goes through the roof. You can't blame spousal abuse after a disaster on anybody."
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so the moron argues that the stress of a disaster increases the likelihood of spousal abuse...
... which would still make it causally linked to the disaster

if it wasn't such a crapload of BS.
 
Jim_MDP said:
I wonder if the stats will show a sudden massive jump in child/infant mortality (?)... and how he'll explain that away.
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Dumb hispanics don't know how to care for their kids, and we are better off with out them anyway.

Seriously you think republicans care? They like that he didn't go out of his way to help those people. Save the money for real americans.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Dumb hispanics don't know how to care for their kids, and we are better off with out them anyway.

Seriously you think republicans care? They like that he didn't go out of his way to help those people. Save the money for real americans.
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It was just a "throwaway" thought but now I'm curious.
After the elderly and infirm, small kids would be the most vulnerable. But... they'd also be the most cared for and concerned over by scared parents whose world has just been blown apart.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other... are stats available?
Corelary might be found among child deaths in war zones. Maybe.
If I get to some WiFi I might have a look, but I'm open to being educated.
(Obviously we can't trust anything coming from the "massively corrupt government" in Puerto Rico. [emoji14] )
 
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Jim_MDP said:
It was just a "throwaway" thought but now I'm curious.
After the elderly and infirm, small kids would be the most vulnerable. But... they'd also be the most cared for and concerned over by scared parents whose world has just been blown apart.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other... are stats available?
Corelary might be found among child deaths in war zones. Maybe.
If I get to some WiFi I might have a look, but I'm open to being educated.
(Obviously we can't trust anything coming from the "massively corrupt government" in Puerto Rico. [emoji14] )
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Or anyone else who says anything that isn't praising Trump.
 
AOC and Kellyanne Conway:

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) took to Twitter to shut down criticism from Kellyanne Conway, the often-controversial counselor to President Donald Trump. In a heart-wrenching Twitter thread, AOC clapped back at Conway about the Trump administration’s response (or lack thereof) to the impact of Hurricane Maria on Puerto Rico.
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“On Easter I was away from tech visiting my grandmother in Puerto Rico, which continues to suffer from the White House’s incompetent disaster response,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote. Trump and his administration have faced a contentious battle over aid funding some say isn’t enough. The island’s leaders have been critical of the administration's handling of the disaster, including recently for opposing funding for its food-assistance program; Trump lashed out at the territory’s leaders in the beginning of April.
AOC Called Out Kellyanne Conway Over the Trump Administration's "Incompetent" Response to Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico (Teen Vogue, April 29, 2019)
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My heart sinks a little every time I see this thread on New Posts. Just dreading to read how PR is getting screwed again
 
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