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The Prince’s Foundation admits homeopathy is placebo

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The WHO statement has been seized on by those scientists who fall into the fundamentalist camp and oppose all complementary therapies including homeopathy.


But they should think carefully before concluding that their case has been proved.


Even if the effects of homeopathy are entirely due to the placebo effect, its use alongside conventional treatment is still valid – and should be subjected to proper research rather than knee-jerk invective.

Here.


What a bunch ...
 
Where can I find the "WHO statement" about homeopathy?
I went to the WHO site, but couldn't find it.

Its not on the web?
 
You're reading too much into it. Roughly translated, the article says that homeopathy should not be used as a cure for major diseases, but may be effective to alleviate suffering, in much the same way as holding the sufferer's hand or offering other comfort.

Personally, I'd prefer homeopathy to hand-holding or other displays of "support" when I'm sick or injured.
 
You're reading too much into it. Roughly translated, the article says that homeopathy should not be used as a cure for major diseases, but may be effective to alleviate suffering, in much the same way as holding the sufferer's hand or offering other comfort.

Personally, I'd prefer homeopathy to hand-holding or other displays of "support" when I'm sick or injured.

You'd rather buy water than receive affection?
 
Where can I find the "WHO statement" about homeopathy?
I went to the WHO site, but couldn't find it.

Its not on the web?


It's a series of statements made by various people at the WHO (several of them directors of departments or people speaking on their behalf) in response to a letter from Voice of Young Science, and apparently confirmed by the office of the Director general of the WHO as "clearly express[ing] the WHO’s position".

See here.
 
On the OP: To be fair, they don't "admit it is placebo", they just say that even it is placebo, it has some benefit. Since 'placebo' means "I please", that is really a tautology.

Hans
 
Where can I find the "WHO statement" about homeopathy?
I went to the WHO site, but couldn't find it.

Its not on the web?
It is not WHO statement but a series of responses to an inquiry made by a group of concerned citizens. WHO has made no official statements in this matter as far as I know.
 
You'd rather buy water than receive affection?

When I'm sick, yes. I prefer real drugs that will knock me flat out but, if all I can get is a placebo/homeopathic remedy, all I ask is that it makes me *think* I don't hurt or otherwise feel too miserable to sleep. People who offer affection tend to keep me awake with inane chatter, not having anything to say but trying to come up with something to make me feel better. Not only am I forced to stay awake and fully conscious of how lousy I feel, but I have to force myself to be polite so their feelings won't get hurt.
 
People who offer affection tend to keep me awake with inane chatter, not having anything to say but trying to come up with something to make me feel better. Not only am I forced to stay awake and fully conscious of how lousy I feel, but I have to force myself to be polite so their feelings won't get hurt.

Clearly, your problem is that you have friends. I suggest you remedy this as soon as possible.
 
When I'm sick, yes. I prefer real drugs that will knock me flat out but, if all I can get is a placebo/homeopathic remedy, all I ask is that it makes me *think* I don't hurt or otherwise feel too miserable to sleep.

I would prefer to be as aware of reality as I could be, and if that means not taking a placebo, then so be it. Personal differences, I guess, though I definitely agree with the well wishers. It's nice to know that someone hopes I don't die, but they can just leave me alone while I'm feeling like crap. (I'm training for the grumpy old man olympics in 2060, I hope to be in the "Get off my lawn!" event.)

Honestly though, what kind of person would value prince Charles's opinion on medical matters but would also be interested in what actual doctors have to say? The two groups seem like to have rather different members.
 
I would prefer to be as aware of reality as I could be, and if that means not taking a placebo, then so be it. Personal differences, I guess, though I definitely agree with the well wishers. It's nice to know that someone hopes I don't die, but they can just leave me alone while I'm feeling like crap. (I'm training for the grumpy old man olympics in 2060, I hope to be in the "Get off my lawn!" event.)

Honestly though, what kind of person would value prince Charles's opinion on medical matters but would also be interested in what actual doctors have to say? The two groups seem like to have rather different members.

"different members"? Well, one has much bigger ears. :confused:
 
There is a fundamental ethical problem with the use of placebos. Namely, that in order for a doctor to use them he must lie to his patient. The doctor/patient relationship is one that requires an extraordinary degree of trust. With my doctor, I am quite literally putting my life in his hands.

It is in my mind utterly unacceptable that he should deceive me. Further, such an act would prove an unreconcilable breach. I would no longer accept the ministrations of the physician after that. I would find another to replace him.
 
"different members"? Well, one has much bigger ears. :confused:

One group of people, those who already believe strongly in alt med, might use PC's support as a reason to continue. The other group of people, those who actually might consider the WHO as a reputable source of information, probably wouldn't use PC's support for anything. These two groups of people likely do not have many individuals in common.
 
These two groups of people likely do not have many individuals in common.

You're forgetting that human beings are highly emotional and illogical creatures. For the most part, it takes a conscious effort to think criticaly and dispassionately. It's perfectly possible for the average person to find common ground between two diametrically opposed concepts, just as it is for them to sharply distinguish between two inseperable ideas. If nothing else, the insurance companies' growing willingness to cover "alternative" therapies alongside medical treatment should tesify to how large this crossover group really is. In fact, I would hazard a guess that those adhering strictly to conventional medicine are the smallest group of all.
 
On the OP: To be fair, they don't "admit it is placebo", they just say that even it is placebo, it has some benefit. Since 'placebo' means "I please", that is really a tautology.
Maybe... but there's a fine line between 'pleasure' and 'comic relief'
 

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