Merged The One - Australian TV

Wildy said:
I know that Crime Investigation Australia show how the families get annoyed at the psychics. I guess they are trying to be balanced.

But the people who proclaim themselves to be "psychics" are just jerks, plain and simple.
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Unfortunately we have Sensing Murder (known as Sensing BS) running on TV at the moment.
The police asked these scam merchants to see if they could shed light on a missing woman.
As you'd expect it was a big nothing with all the usual cold reading techniques and the uncritical falling over themselves.
Both of these 'psychics' are Australians......
 
AndyD said:
I've just noticed someone calling themselves eziodeangelis has commented on the Ezio video

If anyone who was at the taping of that show would like to comment on the vid, that would be appreciated.
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The video has been taken down. Did you get a copy right violation take down notice?

I also can't follow the conversations in the comments. It says:

AndyDMBWA61: "Could you clarify? What did happen during the missing three minutes during which time no hits were scored? "

eziodeangelis: "This is untrue "

what is untrue?
 
If you are in Sydney and can stomach it, a few of us are going to Ezio's show at the Canterbury Hurlstone Park RSL on October 15 at 8 pm. The purpose is to write a critique on the methods of cold reading.

Send me a message/PM if;
a) you wish to join us
b) can't believe I would put myself through that
c) want to tell me I'm a fool
d) all of the above, or
d) other (please elaborate).
 
I had a look at Ezio's website.
He is doing a number of shows in and around the greater Sydney area.
I noticed he is doing one on Friday 10th October at Ingleburn RSL. Well I live at Ingleburn so will probably go. It is interesting that he charges different prices at different venues. The cheapest is $20 at my local RSL, Canterbury Hurlstone is $30 and $25 at others. So I save $10 plus petrol if I go local.
His shows URL below.
http://www.eziodeangelis.com.au/calendar.php
 
If you are in Sydney and can stomach it, a few of us are going to Ezio's show at the Canterbury Hurlstone Park RSL on October 15 at 8 pm. The purpose is to write a critique on the methods of cold reading.
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Please reconsider.
 
Recent events have made it clear that although the producers of The One invited differing opinions from viewers and even included a skeptic to question the validity of claims in the studio, the contestants (one, at least) have quite a different idea about skepticism and will resort to lawyers to impose their view by threatening defamation action against critics.

One practical response to this seems to be for Richard to threaten law suits against those woo sites that mention him in a derogatory vein based on the few seconds per week they got to see of him. I'll happily search the comments out.
 
AndyD said:
One practical response to this seems to be for Richard to threaten law suits against those woo sites that mention him in a derogatory vein based on the few seconds per week they got to see of him. I'll happily search the comments out.
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I like to think that I am better than that. I will not stoop to their level.

Peter Bowditch as another way, he always publishes letters he gets from people who threaten legal action.
 
I like to think that I am better than that. I will not stoop to their level.
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I know. But I'm in one of those moods at the moment. Plus, I think you'd have a case!
 
TTGUY said:
Originally Posted by AndyD
I've just noticed someone calling themselves eziodeangelis has commented on the Ezio video

If anyone who was at the taping of that show would like to comment on the vid, that would be appreciated.
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The video has been taken down. Did you get a copy right violation take down notice?

I also can't follow the conversations in the comments. It says:

AndyDMBWA61: "Could you clarify? What did happen during the missing three minutes during which time no hits were scored? "

eziodeangelis: "This is untrue "

what is untrue?
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Sorry, ttguy, I missed this.

No copyright violation. I did add a copyright notice to the summary, after reading your notice (thanks) so maybe I was updating it or something when you checked in as it should still have been there. However, I deleted it last night after a defamation threat. I messaged you about it on Youtube so check your inbox if you know where it is (I didn't until last night)

If you're still confused, the Youtube comments read upwards so you have to swap them. The first comment "untrue" was about the video, the second was my response.
 
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AndyD said:
Recent events have made it clear that although the producers of The One invited differing opinions from viewers and even included a skeptic to question the validity of claims in the studio, the contestants (one, at least) have quite a different idea about skepticism and will resort to lawyers to impose their view by threatening defamation action against critics
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I'm sorry to hear about this nonsense AndyD. Litigious psychics, sparks suspicion doesn't it. Congratulations on your work to date. I genuinely hope you may continue.

FOAM
 
Err, thanks foam but I don't want to be influential here :blush: When I wrote "please reconsider" I was in a stinking mood and seriously wondering why we all do what we do?

There were two reasons I made that plea:
1: The thought of anyone actually adding to Ezio's income.
2: The thought of his response to critique causing others grief.

Note that I didn't say "don't go" :) By the letter of the law, it would seem such an instruction would be defamatory :jaw-dropp

It's a dilemma (I see someone else on JREF is facing the same dilemma regarding attending a John Edward show) - do you increase their income in the interests of research and accurate critique or is it better to keep the money in your own pocket but let them go unchallenged?

Can I ask where the critique was to be published? JREF? Blogs? Aus Skeptics?
 
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I agree with you about the income, same old dilemma hey? Do we go and debunk them or stay well away. I really don't reckon my $35 bucks will make a big dent in his coffers since there will another 200 other stupid people there also.

To be honest with you, I don't think I could stand an hour of; "can I come to you my sweets? Has there been a problem with the pipes my lovely?, Am I sounding like a broken record of cold reading, and what's with that botoxed woman's face and boob job on Ghost Whisperer?" Ooh, sorry, got distracted.

As for publishing, most likely the mag, but there is also the skepticzone blog (http://skepticzone.wordpress.com/) and our brand spanking new fledgling blog The Skeptics book of Pooh-Pooh (http://scepticsbook.com/), inspired by Stacey herself.
 
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