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The "Obama spied on Trump!!!" thread

The FBI, CIA, NSA, and every other agency are staffed by Americans. There are just as many Republicans as there are Democrats working at these organizations.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that there there are considerably more Republicans working in federal intelligence and law enforcement agencies than there are Democrats.

Robert Mueller, James Comey, Andrew McCabe - all Republicans.
 
In fact, I'd be willing to bet that there there are considerably more Republicans working in federal intelligence and law enforcement agencies than there are Democrats.

Robert Mueller, James Comey, Andrew McCabe - all Republicans.

Three out of millions does not compute. However you may be correct. Just saying 3 out of that number and making a wager on it seems a bit out of the box.
 
In fact, I'd be willing to bet that there there are considerably more Republicans working in federal intelligence and law enforcement agencies than there are Democrats.

Robert Mueller, James Comey, Andrew McCabe - all Republicans.

The safe rule to estimate this is to remember that agencies tend to reflect the population. Just because someone lists their party affiliation in one direction doesn't mean that they always vote that way, and certainly doesn't mean they conduct themselves at work in such a way that they put their political beliefs ahead of the work in front of them. Getting into the CIA at any level takes a lot of work, and can be frustrating. Working there is challenging for many reasons, but the turnover rate is low because once you are on the inside you are part of an insulated community of highly educated, talented, and dedicated people. Wearing your politics on your sleeve jeopardizes all of this.

The CIA is a lot like the Skeptics Forum in that there are a lot of well educated people who hold a wide variety political and social beliefs which are on display in some of the other topic catagories on this board, and there are many heated debates currently underway. However, the same folks who are arguing about politics on one thread will work together to tear apart the latest CT or Woo-spewing troll whenever they pop up.
 
The safe rule to estimate this is to remember that agencies tend to reflect the population. Just because someone lists their party affiliation in one direction doesn't mean that they always vote that way, and certainly doesn't mean they conduct themselves at work in such a way that they put their political beliefs ahead of the work in front of them. Getting into the CIA at any level takes a lot of work, and can be frustrating. Working there is challenging for many reasons, but the turnover rate is low because once you are on the inside you are part of an insulated community of highly educated, talented, and dedicated people. Wearing your politics on your sleeve jeopardizes all of this.

The CIA is a lot like the Skeptics Forum in that there are a lot of well educated people who hold a wide variety political and social beliefs which are on display in some of the other topic catagories on this board, and there are many heated debates currently underway. However, the same folks who are arguing about politics on one thread will work together to tear apart the latest CT or Woo-spewing troll whenever they pop up.

You’re 100% correct; my comment is more about how the notion that a bunch of Democratic Party partisan hatchet men/women are running the US intelligence community doesn’t make any sense and would be factually inaccurate even if it were true that the US intelligence community acts according to their personal ideological or political views (they don’t, obviously).
 
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You’re 100% correct; my comment is more about how the notion that a bunch of Democratic Party partisan hatchet men/women are running the US intelligence community doesn’t make any sense and would be factually inaccurate even if it were true that the US intelligence community acts according to their personal ideological or political views (they don’t, obviously).

Yes, it's laughable except that the GOP in the House and Senate are buying into it. This undermines the FBI and CIA's ability to do their jobs. Case in point, the late 1990's saw both the FBI and CIA under ongoing investigations for Soviet moles, alleged procedural abuses, and other inflated issues. The FBI was investigating the CIA, and its own agents, and CIA internal affairs was putting the full press on officers and analysts who seemed "reckless".

This environment was why the CIA and FBI were not communicating well enough, and allowed Al Qaeda to do its thing in September 2001.
 
IMO, the constant accusations of pro-D partisanship in the agencies is what led the IC and FBI to go so easy on Trump and so hard on Clinton: by trying to look neutral, they inadvertently picked a side.
No wonder the GOP keeps at it - it has helped them so far.
 
So? If the stupid bitch doesn't like it, maybe it shouldn't be a dirty Russian whore. I expect the FBI to investigate Russians and Americans whoring themselves to Russians and attempting to impact an election.
 
IMO, the constant accusations of pro-D partisanship in the agencies is what led the IC and FBI to go so easy on Trump and so hard on Clinton: by trying to look neutral, they inadvertently picked a side.
No wonder the GOP keeps at it - it has helped them so far.

I'm not so sure, if I recall correctly that didn't really start until trump was elected or shortly before he was elected. Just look at Comey's approval ratings. They party faithful switched back and forth depending on his latest misstep up until Trump fired him.

Point being the Clinton stuff was over by the time the accusations of Dem partisanship cemented into place.
 
IMO, the constant accusations of pro-D partisanship in the agencies is what led the IC and FBI to go so easy on Trump and so hard on Clinton: by trying to look neutral, they inadvertently picked a side.
No wonder the GOP keeps at it - it has helped them so far.

Fair and Balanced!
 

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