Obviously , I know exactly how persons of your type will respond before I post .
But a chat site just full of self regarding smarty pants people is boring .
I am here to help the odd person with Listening Ears .
Be lucky next time .
If you're going to help a person with Listening Ears to overcome years of conditioning to accept a radically different narrative than what is presently the norm, you might want to try and present evidence that supports your narrative.
Malbec said:
A well received response because , for a change here , it talks to possible discussion rather than attempted ridicule just because my position stands against the consensus view .
There is evidence that US industrialists did not give up after the 1942 legislation halted their flagrant disregard for doing business with the enemy . Unsurprisingly they then operated with new care and cunning .
To look at the post war position , I believe we need to look at how the Rockefeller and Ford type operations worked across Europe and see how German industry was rebuilt at an amazing rate -- such that the supposed losers presided over the strongest overall western europe economy in just 15 years .Truly mind blowing .
At the same time , I believe we should chart the way top German scientists with clear SS histories , plus technical experts , were let into America , despite their exact records being available . In fairness they would have otherwise gone to Russia .
And the positions that they achieved in the newly formed CIA are fact .Later there was nothing like an ex Nazi heading up the CIA and the whole role of Allan Dulles and close colleagues needs minute examination .
Looking at this anyone can ascertain that you have not actually presented any evidence to support your arguments - you claimed that there was evidence of US industrialists carrying on trading with Nazi Germany post declaration of war by Nazi Germany, but you don't tell people what it is.
Then you flip to the post-war recovery of WEST Germany as a sign of obviously nefarious doings on someone's part (likely those industrialists), but again fall short of actually providing evidence that there is something amiss here.
The implication of your statements on OPERATION PAPERCLIP is displaying a marked lack of historical understanding, or else a willful disregard for the state of historical knowledge of OPERATION PAPERCLIP - ie. we DO know the way that top Nazi scientists were brought into the US and other western nations where they were put to work so that the West could benefit from their expertise. That hasn't been a secret for decades, and there is a rather large publically accessible number of books out there.
As to your suggestion that an ex-Nazi headed up the CIA, this is again not supported by any actual evidence, like a name. The implication of your dropping Dulles' name is that he was the ex-Nazi, but given the level of the historical record that is available concerning Mr. Dulles, that would be unlikely and is likely an attempt to either smear Mr. Dulles, or to deflect attention to the fact that you are not actually providing any evidence for your assertions.
Based on this and many of your other postings, I can conclude that you are not particularing interested in convincing anyone of your views, but are rather hoping that any "Listening Ears" are ignorant of history, and feel that your "brave bucking of the historical consenus" merits consideration because you are constantly making these bold claims. Unfortunately, bold assertions are all you have, or rather, all you are presenting.
