The Missing Chapter Of General Relativity?

[DeathDart]

So you have been 'chosen', eh?

Polly want a cracker?

Yes, I have been chosen. (Can I be Gaius Baltar)

To bring the word of the ONE TRUE GRAVITY (apologies to BSG)

To the "Dark Matter" Heathens​

 

[Reality Check]

I have seen the light.
....

You have seen the darkness that is writing streams of gibberish to a internet forum.

The difference between what you write and the output from a random text generator seems to becoming smaller and smaller .

 

[DeathDart]

You do understand this sounds insane, don't you?

Let me see, I have a choice between insane and stupid.

I envy you, you have the freedom to choose.

 

[edd]

The calculations match the curves when corrected with 1+SQRT((gT1)/g) = Flow of time g must be less than 6.674E-11 m/s before this equation applies.

m/s eh? Time does fly like a banana then.

Look, your 'curves' and equations can't possibly be anything other than nonsense till you sort all that out.

And as for spiral arms, I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

 

[Roboramma]

Time originates in space, matter just slows it down.

By how much?

 

[Ziggurat]

It does not disagree radically with observations

Yes it does. I already told you: the Lyman alpha forest directly contradicts your theory. You apparently don't understand how or why, but since you hardly know any physics at all, this is neither surprising nor significant.

It does disagree with present Physics assumptions.

Including energy conservation. Do you really feel comfortable throwing that out the window?

Show me an experiment done at that distance.

I already did. The Lyman alpha forest.

I could still be wrong, but the correct solution would be very close.

You could be wrong? No, DD. You are wrong. That's not in doubt. That's well established. You're wrong whether or not dark matter is real.

 

[Reality Check]

When I saw this in the math, that was a turning point. I didn't think I would ever really grasp the mechanism of the spiral arms. It was devilishly simple.

In fact spiral arms are devilishly complicated.
Your little fantasy still does not explain the winding problem (since you know all about spiral arms, I will not bother explaining this standard bit of astronomy).

FYI: Elliptical galaxies have no spiral arms but do have evidence of dark matter.

Also think about really small galaxies like The Smallest Mini-Galaxy in the Universe! (Segue 1) which has about 1000 stars but a mass of something like 600,000 solar masses.
The explanation of why there is more dark matter in smaller galaxies than larger is here Why Dark Matter Rules Mini-Galaxies!. It is simply that radiation pressure pushes normal matter out of gravity wells but gravity pulls it back. The deeper the well (the more mass) the more normal matte is retained.

 

[dafydd]

To paraphrase an old saying.

Many are called.

Few are chosen.

Some are dragged kicking, and screaming.

I fit in the category: idontwannadoit

How old are you? I guess about fourteen.

 

[dafydd]

Yes, I have been chosen. (Can I be Gaius Baltar)

To bring the word of the ONE TRUE GRAVITY (apologies to BSG)

To the "Dark Matter" Heathens​

Troll. Time for the ignore button. I wonder why this science forum has attracted so many cranks lately? Perhaps the education system has failed us?

 

[Belz...]

Your mathematical models didn't match observation, so instead of changing your models, you came up dark matter.

Matter whose existence can only be inferred because it is undetectable in the lab.

Let me see if I got this right.

I come up with a correction to space that gets rid of dark matter, but it means that you accept that you had included an assumption (time has a limit of one) in your current model.

You prefer dark matter, still!

Oh, yes the bullet cluster. Which could also represent the optical effects of time space, and strengthen my argument. It is a disrupted cluster that isn't common. You haven't realized that time lensing, as a consequence of faster time, could also cause it. Our glass lenses are modeled as "time" lenses.

Gallileo syndrome.

 

[Belz...]

That is why I am chosen for last place in the gauntlet for problems. The strange problems where other peoples backgrounds and talents fail. I don't succeed very often, but I think I have your mystical dark matter on the defensive.

Saying so doesn't make it true.

You are hopeless.

Are you the Catholic Church?

And thank you for demonstrating yet again that you are not interested in learning or understanding, mister snarky.

 

[dafydd]

Saying so doesn't make it true.

You are hopeless.



And thank you for demonstrating yet again that you are not interested in learning or understanding, mister snarky.

A suspension or a ban is not far away. Cranks always escalate.

 

[Dancing David]

The calculations match the curves when corrected with 1+SQRT((gT1)/g) = Flow of time g must be less than 6.674E-11 m/s before this equation applies.

And the error bars and the number of data points?

the number of galaxies you have tested your model on?

So what are the error bars?

 

[Belz...]

Let me see, I have a choice between insane and stupid.

Actually, you also have a choice of "wrong", but I see you'd rather not consider it.

 

[DeathDart]

Wow. You confuse two terms in Physics, gravitational field vs potential, and this is your post. Everyone is wrong except you. No, that's not logic.

Ok logic is to run the curves with the corrections as I suggested.

Talk to me about logic, after you do that!

You wanted the math, but now you don't want to use it.

Is it because you won't like the answers. That is how logic is.

 

[DeathDart]

And the error bars and the number of data points?

the number of galaxies you have tested your model on?

So what are the error bars?

It wil take me a little bit of time to format it for the blog correctly.

Less than 2 hours if nothing comes up. First example will be M33.

 

[Ziggurat]

Ok logic is to run the curves with the corrections as I suggested.

It doesn't matter if you can get it to fit this one thing if mountains of other observations (such as the Lyman alpha forest) contradict it. Which is exactly what has happened. You've developed a theory which you can use to fit one piece of data, and nothing else. Which means....

Your theory is wrong.

 

[DeathDart]

M33 as calculated with expanded Miyamoto Model

|KPC.|.Measured Vel | Calculated Vel | Error Percent| gT1 Factor
|0.40|37,000|35,591|.04|2.19
|0.80|55,000|57,242|-.04|2.00
|1.20|66,000|70,080|-.06|2.00
|1.60|80,000|78,091|.02|2.05
|2.00|85,000|83,832|.01|2.11
|2.40|90,000|88,473|.02|2.17
|2.80|94,000|92,477|.02|2.22
|3.60|100,000|99,159|.01|2.32
|4.40|104,000|104,411|.00|2.41
|5.60|106,000|110,142|-.04|2.56
|6.80|110,000|113,958|-.04|2.71
|8.00|116,000|116,465|.00|2.87
|9.20|119,000|118,096|.01|3.03
|10.40|118,000|119,145|-.01|3.20
|11.60|120,000|119,805|.00|3.37
|13.00|124,000|120,252|.03|3.57
|14.20|131,000|120,453|.08|3.75
|15.40|136,000|120,541|.11|3.93

 

[MattusMaximus]

This was an unrelated (earlier theory) theory that I shot down. This was because I could not define gravity with a vector that would cancel. Without canceling fields, it would not work. That is why I knew that the (field or potential) does not cancel between two masses. If you define it as having a vector then it would cancel.

Ahem, DD, Lagrange points? You know, those regions where gravitational effects cancel out?

Are they real or just a figment of our collective imagination?

 

[MattusMaximus]

That is why I am chosen for last place in the gauntlet for problems. The strange problems where other peoples backgrounds and talents fail. I don't succeed very often, but I think I have your mystical dark matter on the defensive.

Great.

Then put up or shut up. Submit your research for publication in a respected, peer-reviewed physics/cosmology journal.