The Missiles at Ground Zero

[Cl1mh4224rd]

http://www.public-action.com/911/psyopnews/Extra/3/flash91.htm

Umm... According to those images, this alleged missile... missed the towers. This fanciful missile is also too high to strike WTC7, so what do they do? They will another missile into existence, coming from a different direction.

It's the friggin' JFK assassination CT...

 

[Arus808]

A question for everyone here.

Would the Government ever lie to you?

that's a loaded question.

You can't use the "government" to cast the entire political system into one "cozy" little entity. OUR government is made up of little entities and groups; many of which DO NOT Even communicate with each other ALL That well (which was part of the problem pre-911).

Some "aspects" of government will lie...why? to protect us? maybe. To keep us in the dark about the "evil" things they do that we have no business knowing about? sure. does that mean they wanted to murder 3000 people to "make a point"..hell freaking no.

But to think that , that many "hands" of the government is able to collude on the happenings of 9/11 is worst than a a bad fairy tale. How can our government work so well together for 9/11, yet couldn't even have the CIA, FBI and the president all on the same damn page?

 

[Quad4_72]

Stateofgrace,

The two fighters tried to shootdown the second hijacked plane.

They both missed. One missile hit WTC 7 and the other missile hit in the open parking area northwest of WTC (see NOAA photo)

I have to admit this is the first I have ever heard a CF say this. WOW. I am speechless. He is saying that a missile hit WTC7.

 

[Hutch]

A question for everyone here.

Would the Government ever lie to you?

I think it is not beyond the realm of possiblity that the US Government would lie at some time.

It is much more probable they would obfuscate (I did not have sex with that woman), as outright lies are harder to protect and get caught out more often than not.

If your specific meaning is do I think the US Government lied about what happened on 9-11, especially in terms of the location and actions of the Fighters out of Otis, No, I do not think they lied or changed the story; I think, until proven with better info than you have shown to date, they gave us the Straight Dope.

 

[stateofgrace]

Stateofgrace,

The two fighters tried to shootdown the second hijacked plane.

They both missed. One missile hit WTC 7 and the other missile hit in the open parking area northwest of WTC (see NOAA photo)

Let me get this straight.

Two fighters tried to shoot down Flight 175 and missed , hit WTC 7 and a parking lot, before the plane hit the Tower and nobody noticed??

 

[beachnut]

Stateofgrace,

The two fighters tried to shootdown the second hijacked plane.

They both missed. One missile hit WTC 7 and the other missile hit in the open parking area northwest of WTC (see NOAA photo)

Too bad you have zero evidence or facts to support your real dumb plot of missiles.

What type of missile was it? And why did no one see it. (by the way the photos you posted show the missile going pretty far from the WTC area)

Why do you trust your CT site for junk like this?

And please tell me when a CTer will show up with some facts. When?

 

[aggle-rithm]

A question for everyone here.

Would the Government ever lie to you?

Define "government".

The US government?
Which branch? Executive? Legislative? Judicial?
Would the lie be bipartisan?
Are you suggesting that every single individual employed by the government would lie in lock-step?

Also, what relevance does any of this have? How does the possibility of some person or persons lying provide a viable substitute for actual evidence that something happened on 9/11 other than what appeared to happen?

 

[Angry Skeptic]

I can't believe this is still going! Even a zombie stops dead in it's tracks if you blow it's head off, but no, the whole idea here just wont die.

State of Grace is correct, I want an answer to that question.

Correct me if I'm wrong:

1) Two fighters were instructed to bring down the plane.

2) They missed the plane, and hit other targets.

3) The plane then hit the tower.

Now, these are simple... yes or no... is it possible to get those answers from you?

 

[beachnut]

He left out the sonic booms from the missiles. It would sound like thunder and a boom for those close to the missile track.

Got some sound proof of you missile sonic booms! You seem to need two. Why were all the other videos devoid of missiles. I have watched dozens of videos of 9/11 that cover the entire time of your missiles which never showed up. No sounds, no visual, NO JOY.

Sorry you are officially a crack pot nut case CTer for 9/11 with no facts. You failed to research 9/11 you failed to use your brains. You have failed.

Relax you are a CTer with no facts.

 

[MaGZ]

Angry Skeptic,

The answer is in the article. So read.

 

[gumboot]

Dear MaGZ...

You are incorrect.

Exhibit A:

Evidence that the Otis ANG Fighters were not over Manhattan when UA175 hit WTC2:

09:07:20
NASYPANY: Okay, Foxy. Plug in. I want to make sure this is on tape.… This is what—this is what I foresee that we probably need to do. We need to talk to F.A.A. We need to tell ‘em if this stuff’s gonna keep on going, we need to take those fighters on and then put ‘em over Manhattan, O.K.? That’s the best thing. That’s the best play right now. So, coordinate with the F.A.A. Tell ‘em if there’s more out there, which we don’t know, let’s get ‘em over Manhattan. At least we got some kinda play.

Exhibit B:

Evidence that NEADS had not been given approval to use force at 0903:

10:10:31
NASYPANY (to floor): Negative. Negative clearance to shoot.… Goddammit!…
FOX: I’m not really worried about code words at this point.
NASYPANY: **** the code words. That’s perishable information. Negative clearance to fire. ID. Type. Tail.

As you can see, you are incorrect.

In addition, the scramble lights at Otis turned green at 0846. On 9/11 it took an average of 7 minutes from lights turning green for a pair of fighters to get airbourne and start heading in the right direction.

That means at 0853 they turned for New York. At absolute maximum speed, it would take an F-15 a further 7 minutes to fly the 192 miles from Otis to Manhattan. So in this scenario the aircraft would have reached Manhattan at 0900. Unfortunately, the F-15's would be at cruising altitude - 35,000ft or more, far above UA175. They could do nothing.

If, on the other hand, this was anticipated, and the fighters flew at their maximum speed at low altitude, they would have reached New York at 0905 - too late to do anything.

Of course neither of these scenarios are correct.

a) The fighters were never directed to Manhattan - they were directed to airspace over water off Long Island. The FAA wouldn't allow them over Manhattan for fear of collision.

b) The fighters were not using afterburner and flying at full speed the entire way.

c) The fighters weren't going to intercept UA175, they were going to intercept AA11, which crashed at the moment they began to taxi.

NEADS didn't learn of a second hijacking until literally the moment that UA175 hit WTC2.

09:03:17
ROUNTREE: They have a second possible hijack!

Your missile theory is false, incorrect, wrong, and not true.

-Gumboot

 

[beachnut]

Angry Skeptic,

The answer is in the article. So read.

Why were there no video of the missiles; I have watched many videos with no missiles the entire time your doltish plot took place. ???

Why are there no sonic booms and thunder fromt he supersonic paths of the missiles???

Why will you never answer an easy question? Why do you have no facts?

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Angry Skeptic,

The answer is in the article. So read.

Speculation isn't an answer...

 

[SezMe]

Do I have this right? The fighters fire missles at the planes and miss. These missles are traveling at Mach 2+ (Hutch's data) and are at least several hundred feet in the air. After missing, one of them stops nearly completely in mid-air, turns 90 degress downward and slams into the ground near the WTC complex.

Twoofers don't much care for physics, do they?

 

[MarkyX]

Welcome to the forum MaGZ, I'm sorry but did I misread what you said? Are you actually suggesting a missile was fired at WTC 7?

Possibly. I did get a few emails recently about how I "proved" that missiles hit the WTC7 because I mentioned it had a huge hole in the SCL video.

Because we all know the only way to create a hole is by using a missile.

 

[fezzic]

public-action.com/911/psycpnews/Extra/3/flash91.htm

The URL has a slight error. "psycpnews" instead of "psyopnews"

 

[gumboot]

Stateofgrace,

The two fighters tried to shootdown the second hijacked plane.

They both missed. One missile hit WTC 7 and the other missile hit in the open parking area northwest of WTC (see NOAA photo)

I think this may be the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Does he really expect us to believe that NORAD fighter pilots in command of F-15C Eagles actually MISSED hitting an airliner? Did the airliner pulls some evasive maneouvers? Maybe pop some chaff or a flare? Was the pod under the wings an ECM device?

-Gumboot

 

[Dog Town]

Thank you Gums, you answered my question as well. This should be the end of this nonsense, bet it won't, though! Iddgitts!

 

[~enigma~]

Your missile theory is false, incorrect, wrong, and not true.

Man of a few words

 

[Scientologist]

How do the rest of you stay civil with ridiculous junk like this ?

I can't even read this without getting furious. It makes me want to wish a disgusting death on truthers' families just so some nutjob can sit around making up woo theories about it.

sick and pathetic.

get a life and register to vote if you want to make a difference. stop hiding behind the "Everyone is out to get us so who cares?" mentality.