The Metaphysical Consciousness

bruto said:
Designers of large seagoing vessels and spacecraft should hire Doronshadmi as a consultant. He would be able to convince them that since their products function in motion, stabilizing is counterproductive. Gyroscope sales would plummet, but cruising would be cheaper.
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You still have problems to understand the meaning of "at least stability AND instability".

Probably because you simply ignored, until this very moment, http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10154922&postcount=334.
 
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Slowvehicle said:
My 5-legged leather couch in front of the bay window in the living room is "stable"; stable enough to support bodacious marital hanky-panky. It is also "movable"; it used to fact the other way (it used to be in a different house).
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In other words, at least stability AND instability.

Thank you for supporting my point of view about the considered subject.
 
doronshadmi said:
In other words, at least stability AND instability.

Thank you for supporting my point of view about the considered subject.
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It is sad to me that you are unable to see yourself obviating your own argument.

It ought to be sad to you.

When do you intend to provide an actual source, other than the swamphole of your own deepitaciousness, that demonstrates describing levers in terms of "stable" and "unstable"?

How do you intend to support the pretense that your error demonstrates anything about the nature of "higher consciousness"?
 
Slowvehicle said:
Only by pretending that incorrect wordusements enhance the deepity.
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So now your 5-legged leather couch can't demonstrate at least stability AND instability, such that in one case it is stable w.r.t to moving things, and in other case it move w.r.t standing things, where both cases are included in the same universe.

Will you make up your mind?
 
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Slowvehicle said:
It is sad to me that you are unable to see yourself obviating your own argument.

It ought to be sad to you.
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It is sad that you can't even speak for yourself, because you are unaware of its stable aspect.

Slowvehicle said:
When do you intend to provide an actual source, other than the swamphole of your own deepitaciousness, that demonstrates describing levers in terms of "stable" and "unstable"?
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Already done in http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10154114&postcount=332.

Slowvehicle said:
How do you intend to support the pretense that your error demonstrates anything about the nature of "higher consciousness"?
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Take, for example, http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10154922&postcount=334.
 
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So basically the great mystical principle of the universe is that sometimes stuff happens. And when stuff happens, by golly, the universe struts its stuff. A cigar is just a cigar, but secretly the couch crouches awaiting the opportunity to befuddle us by showing us the great mystical principle. It's cosmic, man.
 
doronshadmi said:
So now your 5-legged leather couch can't demonstrate at least stability AND instability, such that in one case it is stable w.r.t to moving things, and in other case it move w.r.t standing things, where both cases are included in the same universe.

Will you make up your mind?
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My religion doesn't believe in makeup so you have to take my mind as it is without lipstick or eyeshadow.
 
Donn said:
Heh. Like lipstick on a lobe.
:D
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Hussy, you must have one of those open minds that dress in skimpy logic and tries to seduce religious minds from their beliefs.
 
doronshadmi said:
So now your 5-legged leather couch can't demonstrate at least stability AND instability, such that in one case it is stable w.r.t to moving things, and in other case it move w.r.t standing things, where both cases are included in the same universe.

Will you make up your mind?
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How transparently dishonest.

You claim that the function of a lever depends on the interaction of its "stablility" and its "instability".

You claim that the fact that my wrastle-castle couch is stable (that is, it does not collapse under load, independent of the fact that the couch can be moved, demonstrates your transparent error about the function of a lever.

For rehtorical advantage, you pretend that the divine divan's independent and unrelated characteristics somehow illustrate what you pretend is a characteristic of your "higher consciousness" (I suppose the "higher mind" is free of such constraints as honesty?) while ignoring the fact that the couch could be unstable and movable; or unstable and immovable; or stable and movable; or stable and immovable.

You have yet to provide an example of a source in which levers are correctly explained using the concepts of "stability" and "instability" to describe the function of any kind of lever.

You continue to confuse "efficiency" and mechanical advantage.

And you continue to pursue this off-topic attempt to wish away your glaring error, instead of explaining the woo! you are trying to pitch.
 
tsig said:
My religion doesn't believe in makeup so you have to take my mind as it is without lipstick or eyeshadow.
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I have a better one for you.

Belief is not involved here, so your mind is naturally without lipstick or eyeshadow.
 
Slowvehicle said:
How transparently dishonest.
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How transparently you ignore http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10154922&postcount=334.

Slowvehicle said:
You claim that ...
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My claim is very simple, our reality is at least stable AND unstable, and this principle is found also among levers.

You are still missing what can easily be found in http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10156505&postcount=347 and its links.

Slowvehicle said:
You claim that the fact that my wrastle-castle couch is stable (that is, it does not collapse under load, independent of the fact that the couch can be moved, demonstrates your transparent error about the function of a lever.
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Please do not force your misinterpretation of what I actually say, on me.

As long as you do that you are simply in misinterpretation-loop with yourself, which leads to nowhere.
 
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doronshadmi said:
It is sad that you can't even speak for yourself, because you are unaware of its stable aspect.
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I wonder what you think this means?

doronshadmi said:
Already done in http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10154114&postcount=332.
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How transparently dishonest. You link to a Wiki that does not mention, not once, the terms "stable", or "unstable"; then you pretend to support your falsehood by defining words falsely.

You have yet to show any source that refers to levers as functioning because of a combination of "stability" and "instability".

doronshadmi said:
Take, for example, http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10154922&postcount=334.
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How transparently dishonest. Repeating unsupported claims does not support them.
 
bruto said:
So basically the great mystical principle of the universe is that sometimes stuff happens. And when stuff happens, by golly, the universe struts its stuff. A cigar is just a cigar, but secretly the couch crouches awaiting the opportunity to befuddle us by showing us the great mystical principle. It's cosmic, man.
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Hey.

Cosmic things have, in fact, happened upon that couch (well, at least the earth moved...):o
 
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