The Marjorie Taylor Greene thread.

[Belz...]

Without the charm, yes.

Also, fortunately, without the atomic breath.

 

[The Don]

If we get enough examples of them, and spin them in just the right sound-bite sized packages, they might get through to her voters, yes. These people won't understand complex analysis of real-world problems, but even they might get, "Why did she vote in favor of CANCER?!?"

....because nothing in that bill prevented the funding of aborted fetal tissue by taxpayers - my opponent is in favour of using aborted foetal tissue.

 

[Horatius]

....because nothing in that bill prevented the funding of aborted fetal tissue by taxpayers - my opponent is in favour of using aborted foetal tissue.

...and that's why we need as many examples of this as possible, to drown out the stupid response. The only way to drown out stupidity is with louder stupidity.

 

[kookbreaker]

Greene plans to introduce legislation to kick out Maxine Waters.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...o-introduce-resolution-to-expel-maxine-waters

 

[catsmate]

Boebert and Greene were sole votes against the reauthorization of the National Marrow Donor program. The vote was passed 415-2.

FFS these are utter scum.

 

[sackett]

FFS these are utter scum.

Yes, they are. And I for one am tranquilly confident that they'll soon overreach themselves and be expelled from Congress, and then possibly convicted of various forms of criminality; involving money for sure and possibly sedition.

They can only fly off into wider and wilder extremes of behavior. Their chosen politics depends on outrageousness, and they can't possibly subside into rationality or even silence. That would, for them, be defeat.

So, in the words of Osama bin Loathsome, be patient. Another atrocity is always on the way.

 

[turingtest]

Greene plans to introduce legislation to kick out Maxine Waters.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...o-introduce-resolution-to-expel-maxine-waters

And Kevin McCarthy is on the same page as her (The Hill via MSN):

"Maxine Waters is inciting violence in Minneapolis - just as she has incited it in the past," McCarthy said in a tweet late Sunday evening. "If Speaker Pelosi doesn't act against this dangerous rhetoric, I will bring action this week."

I can see how Waters's comments could, in a perfect vacuum, be seen by some people as at least problematical (I personally don't see anything wrong in telling people who feel their lives are potentially at stake that they should be "more confrontational" about that). But, ffs- do these guys not remember how, just a few short months ago, they refused to hold accountable a President who followed a body of work of outright lies about "stolen election!" with a speech in front of a crowd of people he'd summoned on the basis of those lies and exhorted them to march on the Capitol and fight! (because they were outvoted)- which that crowd promptly did, violently? For McCarthy and Greene, and others invested in the lies, that was no incitement, and besides, free speech! Now they want to expel a member of Congress for doing or saying no more than what they would not expel a President for.

 

[bruto]

You assume that such a revelation would damage her chances in the polls.

I'm not entirely convinced your example is all that dirty anyway. She did vote to let children die of cancer, in order to support her own outlandish views on fetal tissue. I don't think it's dirty at all to point out that she does indeed put her nutty religious biases above the rights, welfare, and even the lives, of real people.

 

[Horatius]

But, ffs- do these guys not remember how, just a few short months ago, they refused to hold accountable a President who followed a body of work of outright lies about "stolen election!" with a speech in front of a crowd of people he'd summoned on the basis of those lies and exhorted them to march on the Capitol and fight! (because they were outvoted)- which that crowd promptly did, violently? For McCarthy and Greene, and others invested in the lies, that was no incitement, and besides, free speech! Now they want to expel a member of Congress for doing or saying no more than what they would not expel a President for.

Oh, they remember. The hypocrisy is the point.


Remember the rule is always: I am a Freedom Fighter, you are an irregular militia, they are terrorists.

 

[Babbylonian]

If we get enough examples of them, and spin them in just the right sound-bite sized packages, they might get through to her voters, yes. These people won't understand complex analysis of real-world problems, but even they might get, "Why did she vote in favor of CANCER?!?"

You're operating under the assumption that it would be useful to get her out of office. It would be all but impossible to get her district to go Democrat, so the alternative would be a Republican who is less crazy and who would actually be allowed to participate in Congress beyond having the same vote on the floor as every other member. In other words, the only "we" who should want her gone are Republicans. Everyone else should be pleased that she makes the Republican party look like the garbage they are.

 

[dudalb]

Greene plans to introduce legislation to kick out Maxine Waters.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...o-introduce-resolution-to-expel-maxine-waters

Frankly, I think the congress would be better off withour both MTG and Walters, whose uging protestors to be "More confrantational if Chauvian walks" statemen is incredibly irresponsible, but MTG is the last person to call out Walters.

 

[dudalb]

And Kevin McCarthy is on the same page as her (The Hill via MSN):



I can see how Waters's comments could, in a perfect vacuum, be seen by some people as at least problematical (I personally don't see anything wrong in telling people who feel their lives are potentially at stake that they should be "more confrontational" about that). But, ffs- do these guys not remember how, just a few short months ago, they refused to hold accountable a President who followed a body of work of outright lies about "stolen election!" with a speech in front of a crowd of people he'd summoned on the basis of those lies and exhorted them to march on the Capitol and fight! (because they were outvoted)- which that crowd promptly did, violently? For McCarthy and Greene, and others invested in the lies, that was no incitement, and besides, free speech! Now they want to expel a member of Congress for doing or saying no more than what they would not expel a President for.

I disagree about Walters. Her statement was incredibly irresponsible, and is going to be intereperted as a call to violence.
But that the GOP Is just as guilty is a good point.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Frankly, I think the congress would be better off withour both MTG and Walters, whose uging protestors to be "More confrantational if Chauvian walks" statemen is incredibly irresponsible, but MTG is the last person to call out Walters.

Ah yes the proper response is to just give up and accept that police can murder with out consequence. Once they accept that it will be so much better.

 

[dudalb]

Ah yes the proper response is to just give up and accept that police can murder with out consequence. Once they accept that it will be so much better.

Yeah and rioting will realy convince the American people of the rightness of your cause.
It plays right in the hands of the Right.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Yeah and rioting will realy convince the American people of the rightness of your cause.
It plays right in the hands of the Right.

Like everything else, peaceful protest get caught up in the police rioting against being held accountable and shown to be the bad guy justifying the police killing people. Giving up and accepting the total immunity from responsibility of the police is the only way. They simply can not be held accountable and realizing that and giving up on trying is the only course of action.

 

[Horatius]

You're operating under the assumption that it would be useful to get her out of office. It would be all but impossible to get her district to go Democrat, so the alternative would be a Republican who is less crazy and who would actually be allowed to participate in Congress beyond having the same vote on the floor as every other member. In other words, the only "we" who should want her gone are Republicans. Everyone else should be pleased that she makes the Republican party look like the garbage they are.

And I think that kind of nihilistic thinking is crap. Like it or not, you're stuck with the Republican Party, the parties are far too embedded in the US system to change that with anything short of a war at this point. Giving up and letting half the government be controlled by utter whackjobs is an incredibly bad idea. Anything that moves the GOP back towards sanity, even a little bit, is a good thing.

 

[dudalb]

And I think that kind of nihilistic thinking is crap. Like it or not, you're stuck with the Republican Party, the parties are far too embedded in the US system to change that with anything short of a war at this point. Giving up and letting half the government be controlled by utter whackjobs is an incredibly bad idea. Anything that moves the GOP back towards sanity, even a little bit, is a good thing.

I disagree, I think the collapse of the GOP is a realistic possiblity. It has happened before with the collapse of the Whigs in the 1850's. Which led to the founding of the Republican party, I think the two party system is imbedded, but that done mean one of the two major parties cannot be replaced.

 

[dudalb]

Like everything else, peaceful protest get caught up in the police rioting against being held accountable and shown to be the bad guy justifying the police killing people. Giving up and accepting the total immunity from responsibility of the police is the only way. They simply can not be held accountable and realizing that and giving up on trying is the only course of action.

You just don't get it. The point of protests is to convince people who are undecided that you are in the right. I submit burning down buisnesses is not the way to do this.
This is the problem with the militant left:they seem more intents on having fun playing being revolutionaris then in actualy convincing middle of the roaders they are right.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

You just don't get it. The point of protests is to convince people who are undecided that you are in the right. I submit burning down buisnesses is not the way to do this.
This is the problem with the militant left:they seem more intents on having fun playing being revolutionaris then in actualy convincing middle of the roaders they are right.

Seems to me scenes of military occupation and cops brutalizing CNN reporters on the streets of America does a lot to persuade undecided people about the nature of the police, but perhaps I'm out of touch.

 

[ponderingturtle]

You just don't get it. The point of protests is to convince people who are undecided that you are in the right. I submit burning down buisnesses is not the way to do this.
This is the problem with the militant left:they seem more intents on having fun playing being revolutionaris then in actualy convincing middle of the roaders they are right.

But they are far to confrontational, you are all about avoiding all confrontation as seen by your calls against Waters call for being confrontational.

The answer is clear do nothing and give up, as any actual action would be far to confrontational and just give the police an excuse to riot. The only way to convince people is to not try to. Actually trying to convince them is far to confrontational and likely to cause the police to riot.