The Marjorie Taylor Greene thread.

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dudalb said:
McCarthy just announced there will be no actions against Green.
Man, the Dems laid a trap for him and the fool walked right into it.Now the GOP must won Jewish Space Lasers.
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Yes, and ?

As I see it, there really isn't a downside for the GOP to have MTG around. The leadership can make vague noises about not agreeing with her views but supporting her right to have them while she can rally support for the GOP from the QAnon crowd.
 
portlandatheist said:
There is clearly a schism in the party with orthodox Republicans like Cheney on one side, and Trumpers on the other and then there are those that try to play both sides like McCarthy and Cruz who will fail miserably. The only person that appears to have any competence at threading that needle seems to be Moscow Mitch
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I see a schism between the House Republicans (Q) and Senate Republicans (not-yet-Q) which I attribute to the Tea Party effect (much greater in the House). Moscow Mitch is doing the only thing he still knows how to - nothing.


I wonder how strong the Q's are in the State parties? The Republicans need to keep States so they can suppress the Dem vote.
 
CapelDodger said:
I see a schism between the House Republicans (Q) and Senate Republicans (not-yet-Q) which I attribute to the Tea Party effect (much greater in the House). Moscow Mitch is doing the only thing he still knows how to - nothing.


I wonder how strong the Q's are in the State parties? The Republicans need to keep States so they can suppress the Dem vote.
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I wonder if the lad between House and Senate regarding Q (and previously the Tea Party) is that the Senate works on a longer time scale (6 years vs 2 years) and needs to appeal to a wider audience (a whole state vs a single rural district).

The Senate will start moving Q-wards in due course and it'll be a mainstream (if not majority) view in 10 years :(
 
The Don said:
I wonder if the lad between House and Senate regarding Q (and previously the Tea Party) is that the Senate works on a longer time scale (6 years vs 2 years) and needs to appeal to a wider audience (a whole state vs a single rural district).

The Senate will start moving Q-wards in due course and it'll be a mainstream (if not majority) view in 10 years :(
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You really think it will take that long? I'm just wondering when the political assassinations will start in earnest.
 
The Don said:
Yes, and ?

As I see it, there really isn't a downside for the GOP to have MTG around. The leadership can make vague noises about not agreeing with her views but supporting her right to have them while she can rally support for the GOP from the QAnon crowd.
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According to news reports on the matter, the Trump faction hurts GOP efforts to take back the House because of the suburban housewife vote.

The vote in the House for Cheney was 145 to 61. The Trump/crazy faction of the GOP is not as big as news coverage makes it seem.
 
The Don said:
I wonder if the lad between House and Senate regarding Q (and previously the Tea Party) is that the Senate works on a longer time scale (6 years vs 2 years) and needs to appeal to a wider audience (a whole state vs a single rural district).

The Senate will start moving Q-wards in due course and it'll be a mainstream (if not majority) view in 10 years :(
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How many of your negative predictions have come true in the last year?

Trump is out.
He left DC.
You haven't had a correct prediction that I recall.

Now you say the Senate will move Q-ward while the vote in the House to support Cheney demonstrates the crazies are not in the majority even in the House.

I see a race between (fake ;) ) news coverage that ironically over-represents the crazies and draws a lot of smaller donors, and the big donors who stay in the shadows and don't favor the QAnons. It's always about the money.
 
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TheSupermeerkat said:
Only some of Q surely, I can't imagine the cannibal pedophile stuff going mainstream.
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That is Q. And it stems from Pizzagate which was mainstream in the 2016 election. Look at polls about Q Anon now. A majority or Republicans right now think the whole thing might be true. Fully a third believe it's mostly true.

https://www.vox.com/2016/12/9/13898328/pizzagate-poll-trump-voters-clinton-facebook-fake-news

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ans-trump-daily-kos-civiqs-poll-a9702261.html
 
RecoveringYuppy said:
That is Q. And it stems from Pizzagate which was mainstream in the 2016 election. Look at polls about Q Anon now. A majority or Republicans right now think the whole thing might be true. Fully a third believe it's mostly true.

https://www.vox.com/2016/12/9/13898328/pizzagate-poll-trump-voters-clinton-facebook-fake-news

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ans-trump-daily-kos-civiqs-poll-a9702261.html
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Exactly that is the core ideology. Yes you can have differences of opinion on if Antony Weiner had a video of Hillary Clinton cutting of a childs face and wearing it on his laptop, but the rape and eating of children is the basis of the belief.
 
TheSupermeerkat said:
Only some of Q surely, I can't imagine the cannibal pedophile stuff going mainstream.
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I imagine the person(s) who originally started this Q nonsense thought to themselves, what is the most whackadoodle thing they could possibly get people to believe? I know, there's a secret cabal of pedophile politicians who eat babies.

:sdl:
 
ponderingturtle said:
Exactly that is the core ideology. Yes you can have differences of opinion on if Antony Weiner had a video of Hillary Clinton cutting of a childs face and wearing it on his laptop, but the rape and eating of children is the basis of the belief.
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From your second link:
More than a third of Republicans believe the QAnon conspiracy that Donald Trump is waging a secret war against a shadowy cabal of paedophile cannibals is "mostly true", according to a new poll released on Wednesday.

The increased support of QAnon comes less than two weeks after Mr Trump appeared to endorse the theory at a White House press conference, saying he appreciates the movement's enthusiasm for his presidency.

The Daily Kos/Civiqs poll found more than half of Republican voters believe the theory is either mostly (33 per cent) or partly (23 per cent) true, with only 13 per cent believing there is no truth to it at all.
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How is this possible? This is wildly different from believing, say , "All politicians are crooks" or "Liberals wanna take your guns." This is genuine insanity. And where does it come from? Even Fox and the other right-wing media don't promote stuff like this. How does this take hold?
 
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