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Ed The Madeleine McCann Case.

catsmate said:
That'd probably because, unlike you, The Guardian is a reliable source of information.

Brueckner was extradited from Portugal (for sexually abusing a minor) in JUN2017. He then travelled to the Netherlands and Italy whilst still on probation after his release.
He was extradited to Germany from Italy in OCT2018 on warrant (for drug trafficking) before being tried and convicted of rape and extortion in DEC2019.

Brueckner’s challenge centred on whether the German authorities needed Portugal’s consent to bring rape proceedings because of the 2017 extradition. (Italy had agreed Brueckner could be tried for rape in Germany)

The (preliminary) opinion by Advocate General (which does not bind the ECJ) declared that the consent of only the Italian authorities was needed for the Germans to carry out their proceedings legally.

The final decision of the ECJ will be given in the future.
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Exactly correct.

However for some reason, Vixen apparently prefers to believe that what came out of the ECJ yesterday was some sort of victory for Brückner, but that the "biassed" media instead chose to portray it (incorrectly, in Vixen's eyes) as a defeat for him.

I would provide that John Heywood/Jonathan Swift quotation once again, but it's sounding more and more like a cliché by now.........
 
Herewith the STRAIGHT news and not the manipulated one:

EU court adviser faults Germany for McCann suspect extradition
Germany should have sought Rome's approval before extraditing a German man from Italy, EU's top court adviser says.

German authorities did not follow correct procedures when they extradited a German man from Italy on a rape charge - a man whom investigators also suspect of murdering British toddler Madeleine McCann, according to an adviser to the European Union's top court.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...cann-suspect-extradition-200806091317887.html

The ONLY issue that was being heard was Brueckner's claim the German's acted illegally in respect of the European Warrant for Arrest act. The German prosecutor's counsel argued vehemently that it was 'common sense' to ignore the breach and find against Bruecknerr's appeal.

All else is window dressing.

Had the ECJ rejected Brueckner's appeal then the press would equally be yelling 'HE LOST HIS BID FOR FREEDOM'.

People like Kate Connolly of the GUARDIAN didn't understand the legal issue at hand and hence the long ramble about how the rapist failed to have his conviction quashed.

The next step is for CB to apply to have it quashed through the proper channels, on the grounds it is unsafe. It is long shot but the law hinges on set rules not on 'common sense and what should be.
 
Meanwhile, the BBC and The Guardian...... oh and Reuters....

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-b...agreement-eu-court-adviser-says-idUKKCN2522II

..... all say that the ECJ advisory was that Germany did have the power and authority to prosecute Brückner for the rape, even though the original EAW listed only the drugs allegations. That, in other words, the ECJ advisory was very bad news for Brückner, and good news for the German State.


But yeah, I dunno...... maybe the BBC, The Guardian and Reuters all actually chose to lie about what happened yesterday, and/or they were all manipulated by dark forces, and/or they were all too ignorant as media organisations to have understood correctly what happened. And that Al Jazeera was right. Yeah.... that makes sense :rolleyes:
 
Vixen said:
Wrong! EU states are obliged by law to particularise via a European Warrant for Arrest. Look it up on wiki.

Simply claiming the suspect concerned is a mass murderer, doesn't make it OK to ignore EU law.
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You are wrong. There's nothing preventing the Germans from requesting that they be able to prosecute someone for other offences than those they were extradited for and there is nothing preventing the Italians from accepting such a request.

In fact the law contains explicit provisions for this.
 
Arcade22 said:
You are wrong. There's nothing preventing the Germans from requesting that they be able to prosecute someone for other offences than those they were extradited for and there is nothing preventing the Italians from accepting such a request.

In fact the law contains explicit provisions for this.
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Then your ignorance shows as EU law clearly states a European Warrant for Arrest must be issued in relation to matters that require extradition.
 
Vixen said:
Then your ignorance shows as EU law clearly states a European Warrant for Arrest must be issued in relation to matters that require extradition.
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Are you saying he shouldn’t have been extradited for the drug offences?
 
Samson said:
It is very difficult to break ribs, they are designed by long evolution to protect the organs behind.
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AIUI CB objected to the prison guards filming him on a monitor, so he smeared the lenses of the camera with yoghurt. When the guards wanted to shackle his ankles, he became upset so they kicked his legs out from beneath him and he fell against a wooden bed.

ISTM that this being a hearing for parole, CB saw being shackled as signalling to the judge he was extremely dangerous and thus was prejudicial to his case. He has also been reported to have deliberately trashed his cell at Kiel prison in some kind of protest.

He's been in isolation since BKA of Germany named him as MM's kidnapper/killer, so it is hardly surprising he has become disruptive. The German police are saying this is a good thing in that they have nearly broken him and got under his skin. Presumably they are either hoping (a) he'll confess or, (b) top himself.

Case closed: the perpetrator killed himself.
 
Trial by media in the lack of enough evidence to take to a real trial.

I'm surprised you agree with that.
 
The Atheist said:
Trial by media in the lack of enough evidence to take to a real trial.

I'm surprised you agree with that.
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This one is simple, so are many on the sub forum.
Time is precious, so keep focus on correcting injustices.
 
He isnt the perpertrator IMO, I recall reading that he had not been seena round the area when his picture was first shown to staff at Praia Der Luz.

He may well get chargrd with some misdemenaur(sp?) surrrounding the case but not the abduction.
 
I think there might be a bit of a communication breakdown in the old breaking news department here.

Just doing a search all the Southern hemisphere sources I see say charged, while most of the Northern hemisphere ones I am looking at say "named as formal suspect"

eg

I guess it was a lot of journalist scrambling to get it out.

Biggest SH one Headline.

"Madeleine McCann disappearance: Suspect charged in Germany, says Portugal prosecutor - reports"

UK Guardian Headline.

"Madeleine McCann: man made formal suspect by Portuguese authorities"
 
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