The Loose Change forum

[EvilBiker]

Oh, my. It's surprising someone this paranoid isn't curled up in the fetal position sucking his thumb.

Yeah, definitely got an axe to grind, I would say.

I do agree that painting the whole alternative media fraternity with the same oozing brush is a bit much, but reading on, I do think it is somewhat justified in Revere Radio's case.

 

[Orphia Nay]

I see a skeptic called Ripley 29 is now "Gone" today.

 

[Minadin]

My only regret about being banned there is that I was not able to post my pictures:

in This thread:

http://www.proxygem.com/cgi-bin/nph...ge_Forum/index.php=3fshowtopic=3d2346&st=3d30

Of course, I would have probably been banned shortly after they saw the jref logo on those.

 

[HeyLeroy]

I see a skeptic called Ripley 29 is now "Gone" today.

Rip posts here! Come and get yer badge!

 

[T.A.M.]

A post from Merc.

"Cool man,

But just so you know, that only requires more theorizing than what's needed.

We need to abandon the small plane (and the missile) IMO, because it will only cause more division and more debate.

It was a large plane.

It flew over. No one told us about a small plane. The witnesses at the Citgo practically followed it until the explosion, I am sure they would have seen something from the right side or the South side of the Citgo.

What if the large plane dropped the debris?

Or the debris was blown from the trailers or near them?"

I love this. I would like to bronze it, and show it to all the boys and girls as a perfect example of the word "STUPIDITY".

OMG...I am simply in awe.

TAM

 

[uk_dave]

It flew over. No one told us about a small plane. The witnesses at the Citgo practically followed it until the explosion, I am sure they would have seen something from the right side or the South side of the Citgo.

What the hell? They didn't see it fly over?

 

[Arus808]

no. they are assuming that the "Explosion" distracted them from seeing the flyover or that big ball of red/black smoke hid the flyover

 

[Calcas]

There is a guy named "Raven" over there that posted some good stuff about the white smoke behind the one pic of AA77 before it hit the Pentagon.

I PM'd him a couple of times and now he can't accept PM's...it says his account is "validating". This after 167 posts.

He wasn't really familiar with this board so I sent out an invite. He seemed like a good guy who simply wasn't sold on a couple of aspects of 911.

Check out his links on this thread. He has a few different posts on this page...

http://www.bumbaclart.info/nph-inde..._Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2620&st=120

Although, I just noticed Raven pretty much believes in the WTC CD theory. Still, he seems the type that would listen to evidence and logic.

P.S. to Killtown, terror, roxpuppy, and the rest. I know you guys lurk here.

I'm in your "ready room." It seems the password wasn't so secure after all. You better start the witch hunts...

 

[Miragememories]

Yes Raven is a good apple.

Many here could learn from his good example.

Like myself, he maintains an open mind about the events of 9/11 and doesn't let others do his thinking for him.

I very much value the insight that JREF skeptics can bring to the LC Forums because too many there have been converted but are not really giving enough thought to their new found beliefs. Good thoughtful skeptics force us to consider the validity of our beliefs.

Unfortunately for both sides of the argument, too many members are bigoted and stand by their beliefs with an almost religious fanaticism which benefits no one.

I harbour no ill feeling towards anyone here who treats me with polite respect and I intend to return the same.

Hopefully members here who have seen my posts in the LC forums accept that I'm only interested in the common good and attempt to engage in honest fair-minded dialogue whenever possible.

Please keep in mind that the LC Forums, just like the JREF Forums allow anyone, regardless of age, education or experience to join. With such diverse memberships, you'll get quality and you'll get crap.

Hopefully, the quality members on both sides will resist the seductive mob influence of those who aren't interested in positive meaningful dialogues.

MM

 

[mrfreeze]

Yes, but the difference is that over here as long as you don't break any rules you don't get banned just for disagreeing with the official story. And if someone is banned or suspended, you can look and see what it was for, and protest their banning if you feel it was unjust. Whereas on the LC boards, you just disappear one day with no explanation or way to protest it.

But that aside, welcome to the boards.

 

[Orphia Nay]

"You do not have permission to view this board".

And now I see by proxy that I am "Gone".

My last post was in The Skeptics forum, in look-up's thread, "Skeptics need a refresher".

Killian said this:

as to what kind of explosives were used, im not a demo guy so i cant say exactly. frankly the exact chemical compound used is not that important to me. it did what it needed to do. i'll humor you with a partial answer as to what kind: a conventional kind of explosive (cutting charge) was used in an unconventional demolition method on wtc's 1&2. onelayer of demolition for the supporting core of the structure, and added layer of demolition was used to demolish all the pieces that would normally remain intact inspite of the demolition of the core structural supports. these are the pieces being ejected outward into much smaller pieces. a third level of explosives was placed in the basement to help cover up the evidence for demo's 1 and 2. these explosives were more than likely parked in vehicles in the basements of these buildings , and may have been the thermite (but possibly other compound) that was used to keep the place cooking for the many weeks after the collapses.

I wrote:

Killian, are you saying they blew the floors into bits, then they blew the bits into bits, and then they blew the bits of bits into bits?

It wasn't one of my most compassionate posts, but hey, I admit it - I'm only human.

 

[Coritani]

Please keep in mind that the LC Forums, just like the JREF Forums allow anyone, regardless of age, education or experience to join. With such diverse memberships, you'll get quality and you'll get crap.

Hopefully, the quality members on both sides will resist the seductive mob influence of those who aren't interested in positive meaningful dialogues.

MM

Indeed. The problem is that at the LC forum, skeptics get banned for no reason at all (such as me, Eddykola, Antiman, etc etc) while truthers can do anything they want.

Case in point: I get banned for doing nothing, while Roxdog flames all over the place, and is even praised by one of the mods for it.

Welcome to the forums, by the way.

 

[Miragememories]

Thank you mrfreeze.

I'm not a big believer in banning people and have no administrative influence in the LC Forums.

I would like to see the rationale behind LC decisions for individual bannings, and possibly the allowance for input from members regarding final decisions.

In some cases the banning hasn't come as a big surprise, as I'm sure is the case with certain banned members here.

I'm thankful that I won't be banned from the JREF Forums merely because I'm a member of the LC Forum as well.

MM

 

[johnny karate]

Mirage, welcome to the JREF forum.

You're not going to find any "bigotry" here. Everyone here has an open mind.

However, you will be required to support your assertions with evidence or expert testimony for them to be given any credence. Speculation and layman analysis will not be accepted.

Good luck and I look forward to perhaps debating with you again.

 

[beachnut]

Yes Raven is a good apple.

Many here could learn from his good example.

Like myself, he maintains an open mind about the events of 9/11 and doesn't let others do his thinking for him.

I very much value the insight that JREF skeptics can bring to the LC Forums because too many there have been converted but are not really giving enough thought to their new found beliefs. Good thoughtful skeptics force us to consider the validity of our beliefs.

Unfortunately for both sides of the argument, too many members are bigoted and stand by their beliefs with an almost religious fanaticism which benefits no one.

I harbour no ill feeling towards anyone here who treats me with polite respect and I intend to return the same.

Hopefully members here who have seen my posts in the LC forums accept that I'm only interested in the common good and attempt to engage in honest fair-minded dialogue whenever possible.

Please keep in mind that the LC Forums, just like the JREF Forums allow anyone, regardless of age, education or experience to join. With such diverse memberships, you'll get quality and you'll get crap.

Hopefully, the quality members on both sides will resist the seductive mob influence of those who aren't interested in positive meaningful dialogues.

MM

It will be neat when the LC guys come up with some facts before they get old.

There is not a fact to be found in LC videos; just lies.

You hit the nail on its head! Belief is all you have. Try facts when it comes to the real world; facts are much better than lies. LC should find some before the followers actually find physics and the ability to think for themselves which it seems most forgot how to use their brains to think..

What facts do you have? LC is fiction and you have no factual support for it. Poor Dylan is lacking facts; can you help him?

 

[GlennB]

...
Please keep in mind that the LC Forums, just like the JREF Forums allow anyone, regardless of age, education or experience to join. With such diverse memberships, you'll get quality and you'll get crap.
...
MM

Hello again, MM

Slight difference is that you could get fairly stroppy over here and still be tolerated. Maybe for about 30 pages of debate, even. People would debate your evidence/point of view all day long (us sad gits).
At LC you get banned just for being a sceptic (unless the mods are away making films )

Anyhoo - welcome, and please present your evidence. You will need it. Mere assertions and 'argument from incredulity' won't get you very far without a gentle reminder or two. Apparently it only takes 4 muscles to slap someone round the head

pip pip!

 

[Orphia Nay]

There is a guy named "Raven" over there that posted some good stuff about the white smoke behind the one pic of AA77 before it hit the Pentagon.

I PM'd him a couple of times and now he can't accept PM's...it says his account is "validating". This after 167 posts.

He wasn't really familiar with this board so I sent out an invite. He seemed like a good guy who simply wasn't sold on a couple of aspects of 911.

Check out his links on this thread. He has a few different posts on this page...

http://www.bumbaclart.info/nph-inde..._Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2620&st=120

Although, I just noticed Raven pretty much believes in the WTC CD theory. Still, he seems the type that would listen to evidence and logic.

He practically bit my head off when I suggested he investigate the NORAD "stand down" and the Pentagon "missile defence system" with the same skepticism as he had the AA77 pic. He thought I was "putting words into his mouth", and commented, "stupid skeptics".

P.S. to Killtown, terror, roxpuppy, and the rest. I know you guys lurk here.

I'm in your "ready room." It seems the password wasn't so secure after all. You better start the witch hunts...

That's great, Calcas!! Is it filled with all those paranoid threads about suspected disinfo agents that keep disappearing from the main forum?

 

[Calcas]

That's great, Calcas!! Is it filled with all those paranoid threads about suspected disinfo agents that keep disappearing from the main forum?[/QUOTE]

Actually, they play poor IVXX like a fool.

KT, rox, and terror simply tell him what to do...

 

[mrfreeze]

You should save copies of as much of it as you can before they find out and figure out a way to block you. If nothing else it would be quite interesting reading for the rest of us. Plus there may be some nuggets that could be spread over to the "not as privileged" troofers.

*edit* Wasn't there a program linked to somewhere on this board that basically did printscreen only would work for entire pages of message board threads and the like?

 

[Mancman]

The simple fact of the matter here is that this person cannot even spell SENTENCE CORRECTLY. How the hell are you going to even begin explaining to me what occurred on 9/11, IF YOU CANNOT SPELL SENTENCE CORRECTLEY.

Funny.