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did we find anything resembling a human being?

The answer to which is yes, thereis a photo of a badly burned, but recognisable human body still strapped into an airline seat in the trial exbits that were released last year.
 
Loose Change Ireland

The Broo Ha Ha over the RTE cancellation of Loose Change continues. Theres an article in the music magazine Hot Press over it. They even interviewed Dylan, and it's a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ gem.

However, the filmmakers have now secured financial backing to secure a third version of the film. Avery says they felt a new version was needed to rectify inaccuracies and to include new material to back-up their contentious theories. "The plan is to have the movie done and in theatres by the summer," Avery told Hot Press "so we don’t compete with Spiderman 3.1 The Final Cut is exactly that – the final cut. I’m done making 9/11 films. I want to punish those responsible and move on with my life."2
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1. Wheres the hysterical laughter smiley.

2. Looks like Do over is getting fed up. Dylan sweetheart, if, if you could prove your theories, then this is your life for the rest of your life as you become the greatest journalist ever, and become a key witness in the trial of the millenium. If you want to move on with your life chuck the laptop and look in the mirror and repeat after me "Do you want fries with that" Over and over and over again.
 
Wait!

Does Dylan actually think LC:FC will get him some big director deal of some sort? Make him the big film maker he's always wanted to be?

I'm sorry but that's just hilarious!
 
The Doc said:
Wait!

Does Dylan actually think LC:FC will get him some big director deal of some sort? Make him the big film maker he's always wanted to be?

I'm sorry but that's just hilarious!
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That must be Dylan's motive to get to stardom. He created a film that was full of lies and hoped that would lead him to be a superstar director.
 
The Demon's Head said:
That must be Dylan's motive to get to stardom. He created a film that was full of lies and hoped that would lead him to be a superstar director.
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Maybe he's hoping to inherit Uwe Bol's .

Seriously this comment just emphasis' dylan's capacity for self delusion. He really does think LC:FC will vindicate himself and six months later he'll be in prep for something like "the Watchman".

Hey dylan a few quick points.

A few talking heads iv's doesn't qualify yourself as a someone who understands cinematography.

If loose changes proves one thing it's that you are unable to understand narrative structure.

A Hack internet movie isn't going to ensure hollywood success.
 
8den said:
Maybe he's hoping to inherit Uwe Bol's .

Seriously this comment just emphasis' dylan's capacity for self delusion. He really does think LC:FC will vindicate himself and six months later he'll be in prep for something like "the Watchman".

Hey dylan a few quick points.

A few talking heads iv's doesn't qualify yourself as a someone who understands cinematography.

If loose changes proves one thing it's that you are unable to understand narrative structure.

A Hack internet movie isn't going to ensure hollywood success.
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If anything, the final edition will still have the troofers thinking of Dylan as their hero. Nothing more than that.
 
it'll have the truthers asking questions as to why Dylan is not a bigtime Hollywood director and then demanding answers when they are told that he is just not a good film director...
 
The Silver Shadow said:
it'll have the truthers asking questions as to why Dylan is not a bigtime Hollywood director and then demanding answers when they are told that he is just not a good film director...
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Obviously the Hollywood Joo powerbrokers like Geffen, Spielberg, & Friends will stop at nothing to keep the evil Zionist NWO machinery in motion...
 
A novel approach to debating at LC...

I've decided to translate one of the arguments being put forth into a recognisable argument form - and it turns out to be affirming the consequent.

Maybe this will work somehow? It's pretty hard to argue against solid logic...

Anyone who checks that out and finds an error in what I've said, please correct me ASAP by the way! Last thing I need after I put the work into that explanation is a gloating CTer...
 
8den said:
The Broo Ha Ha over the RTE cancellation of Loose Change continues. Theres an article in the music magazine Hot Press over it. They even interviewed Dylan, and it's a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ gem.



1. Wheres the hysterical laughter smiley.

2. Looks like Do over is getting fed up. Dylan sweetheart, if, if you could prove your theories, then this is your life for the rest of your life as you become the greatest journalist ever, and become a key witness in the trial of the millenium. If you want to move on with your life chuck the laptop and look in the mirror and repeat after me "Do you want fries with that" Over and over and over again.
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That's cruel but funny. And accurate!
I see the LCFC release date keeps slipping - September 06, then March 07, now Summer 07 - hmm, could anything possibly be wrong there, I wonder?
(NB Over here in the UK we call it a brou haha)
 
Comsat Angel said:
That's cruel but funny. And accurate!
I see the LCFC release date keeps slipping - September 06, then March 07, now Summer 07 - hmm, could anything possibly be wrong there, I wonder?
(NB Over here in the UK we call it a brou haha)
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Around here we call it a buggaboo. Down south they call it a hoot-nanny.
 
Man, there was this great new poster named RAMS over in the skeptics area of LCF yesterday, but today all of this posts and the thread(s) he started and pretty much any evidence that he existed at all, have vanished. (Except for a reply by 28K to a now non-existant thread)
 
Minadin said:
Man, there was this great new poster named RAMS over in the skeptics area of LCF yesterday, but today all of this posts and the thread(s) he started and pretty much any evidence that he existed at all, have vanished. (Except for a reply by 28K to a now non-existant thread)
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Thanks for this report, Minadin. Excellent. I hacked LC forum with Apple's Open Transport under OS X and yes, you are absolutely correct. My posts replies, etc, ---All gone. Best compliment to the threat of truth is censorship.

The bane of cultist-facist is the first victim of truth is silence or censorship, defamation, then isolation. Finally, denial.

Because of my degrees in failure (3) and being involved with NASA since 1981 (before and after being art boy stuff) I know failure and know it in structures as well. I posted rebuttals at LC based on math and fact and visual analysis in each and every thread I could find over there, knowing possibly my time there would be limited (3 days).

Once wind of my dissent was known they began the personal attacks and assaults and lies and so on, and not once did they consult NASA or the like.

I feel they (LC-911 Conspiracy cultists) are dangerous. I feel also, like the UFO movement which we and I systemically attempted to dismantle through several means online starting with Art Bell, are going to further fuel the unwashed masses into believing the grand lie of all time: that we killed our own on 911.

It must be stopped. Truly.

And the issue is nation Islam, not our own, least of such our Government. Dealt too long with government and know its flaws to ever target them on something like 911. Negligence, yes. Conspiracy, no. (Example: STS-51L, Challenger, STS-107, Columbia)

Islam is the issue. Nothing else, by its very demonic mantra, we are dead, lest we get our collective heads out of our asses and do something akin to Japan during the end of WW2.

Thank you so much for this information and taking the time to share this here, amongst the living..........

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
behold the rage dot com
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Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
RAMS said:
Thanks for this report, Minadin. Excellent. I hacked LC forum with Apple's Open Transport under OS X and yes, you are absolutely correct. My posts replies, etc, ---All gone. Best compliment to the threat of truth is censorship.

The bane of cultist-facist is the first victim of truth is silence or censorship, defamation, then isolation. Finally, denial.

Because of my degrees in failure (3) and being involved with NASA since 1981 (before and after being art boy stuff) I know failure and know it in structures as well. I posted rebuttals at LC based on math and fact and visual analysis in each and every thread I could find over there, knowing possibly my time there would be limited (3 days).

Once wind of my dissent was known they began the personal attacks and assaults and lies and so on, and not once did they consult NASA or the like.

I feel they (LC-911 Conspiracy cultists) are dangerous. I feel also, like the UFO movement which we and I systemically attempted to dismantle through several means online starting with Art Bell, are going to further fuel the unwashed masses into believing the grand lie of all time: that we killed our own on 911.

It must be stopped. Truly.

And the issue is nation Islam, not our own, least of such our Government. Dealt too long with government and know its flaws to ever target them on something like 911. Negligence, yes. Conspiracy, no. (Example: STS-51L, Challenger, STS-107, Columbia)

Islam is the issue. Nothing else, by its very demonic mantra, we are dead, lest we get our collective heads out of our asses and do something akin to Japan during the end of WW2.

Thank you so much for this information and taking the time to share this here, amongst the living..........

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
behold the rage dot com
________________________________
Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
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As I mentioned in another thread, welcome to the Forum RAMS. I would make one comment in conflict with one part of your post. IMO it is the RADICAL, EXTREME factions of Islam, not all of the religion, that is the problem.

Welcome aboard.

TAM:)
 
Threads always vanish over at LCF, and the same is true over at PFTF. http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth

If you want to see something you have done at LCF or PFTF, you have to save it. The real insanely dumb stuff comes after your thread is gone. 28thKingdumb posts like he is a terrorist; but can any terrorist be as dumb as 28th. But the top idiot posts come from some dolt called beached! He actually agrees or supports the insanity of 28thKingdumb who has never made any point, or offered any facts about 9/11. Beached record and 28th record for presenting facts continues with a perfect zero.

Beached and 28th have to be the only people in the history of this earth to have undefined lower intelligence levels. If anyone needs to study people who have terminal stupidity, sign up at PFTF or visit the stronghold of stupidity at LCF. I would try to grade these guys but to grade them may require a whole new science branch in education and evaluation not yet invented.

Blind lemmings following idiots who lie and call themselves a "truth movement". Ironic names, for real dumb group of people. Don't be fooled, when a truther changes the subject it is due to lack of facts, intelligence, and he forgot what the heck you were talking about in the first place. For a group to still tell lies after 5 years proves how dumb they are. You would expect if they were real patriots they would take some engineering courses and get PhDs, BS degrees, MS degrees and save us all from our evil government forever.

The trouble is if they all went to school and learned how to think the only vaporization taking place in the truth movement would be itself. No more 9/11 truth movement idiots running around.
 
T.A.M. said:
As I mentioned in another thread, welcome to the Forum RAMS. I would make one comment in conflict with one part of your post. IMO it is the RADICAL, EXTREME factions of Islam, not all of the religion, that is the problem.

Welcome aboard.

TAM:)
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Hello TAM and thank you for the warm welcome along with so many others. It is good here.

Please forgive me on this that follows, but at least consider. I have been following and studying Islam, for some 30 years now since I run into its tenets in my global wanderings. I have studied and read the Q'uran many times. My own copy is worn out from consulting it.

It is the most violent, hateful, despicable belief system ever devised by man. And it is anything but 'peaceful'. Over 22,000 items within this twisted tome advise murder and death to the 'infidels', not to mention the hideous suppression of anything female.

All of us: From China to the US and everyone in between, are targets of wrath under this belief system.

Excerpts:

(Koran 76:4) "Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers
chains, yokes and a blazing fire. To kill them all the day and night."

(Koran 8:12) Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with
the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the
Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the
Unbelievers and kill them: smite ye above their necks and smite all
their finger-tips off them."

(Koran 8:17) So you did not slay them, but it was Allah
Who killed them, and you did not kill when you smote (the
enemy), but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might
confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; surely
Allah is Hearing, Knowing.

(Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is
hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing
which is good for you and it may happen that you love a
thing which is bad for you and must kill. Allah knoweth, you knew not."

.........and so much more. And it is why not one nation, under Islam, has arisen up to police its own since 911. None. Why? Because there is nothing to rise up to, since they ae follwing the dictates of Allah to a 'T'.

We have been brainwashed with so much new age pap to not speak in fact about Isalm that it is a crime.

It is what it is; A murderous, hateful, anti-female, demogogery of utter insanity.

Imagine if the Methodist from Pittsburg are driving to Omaha to set off a car bomb at the Lutherans children's school (such as Islamic factions are doing in Baghdad at this very moment). We simply do not do this in the 21st century, in the rest of the non Islamic world.

Please consider.

........And there are very dark things in store for us in the near future in our Home Place that will be far outside the pale of 911........in the name of Allah...............

Behold such.

Thank you.


Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
behold the rage dot com
________________________________
Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
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I will, of course, bow to your overwhelming expertese in the field, c/w mine. However, I would rephrase...

"It is those who follow and practice the literal teachings of the Quran that are to be feared, not the peaceful law abiding, gentle people who believe in Allah and Mohammed."

You see I know many Muslims, and amongst all of them there is not the one who would be capable of the harm that is suggested by the literal interpretation of their book.

TAM:)
 
RAMS said:
I have studied and read the Q'uran many times. My own copy is worn out from consulting it.

It is the most violent, hateful, despicable belief system ever devised by man.
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You really should read the Bible.
 
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