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The liberal media

arcticpenguin

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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/01/radio/index.html

(CNN) -- The group hoping to launch a new liberal radio network is close to purchasing stations in five major markets.
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The network is aiming to have programming that is entertaining, "not just wonky policy-oriented reporting," the spokesman said.

Among the shows being planned is one with comedian Al Franken that could be called "The Liberal Show," though the spokesman said the name has not been finalized.
Of course we all know the media already has a liberal bias...
 
On Fox News Watch this weekend they only answered letters from viewers. One viewers' letter asked them to define conservative/liberal in terms of media bias.

Jim Pinkerton answered there are 3 terms he prefers to use.

Leftist- socialist/communist bias
Liberal- progressive, secular bias
Conservative- traditional, quasi-religious bias

Under his definition, I am a liberal. Where's my radio show?
 
Wow, the working title is "The Liberal Show". Creative. How about "Failure is an Option"; or, "Failure is an Option. A very, very good Option"; or, "Failure is Inevitable."

Why don't they simply call it "The Al Franken Show"? Maybe it's that nuance we hear so much about. "

P.S. Jim Pinkerton is an arrogant as*hole. I used to enjoy Jeff Cohen making a fool of him (not difficult) on that Fox News watch program or whatever it was called.
 
It's funny how quick people forget that CNN covered up some of Saddam's atrocities. Is there a liberal bias? No. However, there is a bias towards left-wing fascism.
 
arcticpenguin said:

"not just wonky policy-oriented reporting," the spokesman said.


"Wonky"? Wonky.

When was a clown nose and a bicycle horn ever funny? Wait, that is extremely funny. Just not when Franken does it.



Anyway, they're buying stations in New York, Boston, San Francisco... Why not broadcast in the heartland? Because they're already hated there, and they know they always will be. They will never relate to good average Americans, and any new show will only make them more disliked in non-elite states.

This is a welcome move. The Republican formula has been working great- exhibitionism. The more liberals are displayed, the better for conservatives. Let the freaks perform, as we are the ringmasters.
 
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American said:






Anyway, they're buying stations in New York, Boston, San Francisco... Why not broadcast in the heartland? Because they're already hated there, and they know they always will be. They will never relate to good average Americans, and any new show will only make them more disliked in non-elite states.


Actually, it's more likely that they will broadcast into the "heartland" as time goes on. Remember, Rush broadcasts out of Florida, Hannity out of New York, Glann Beck out of Philly.

Frankly, it seems to me that radio personailities, in general, are afraid to go into the heartland. I would think that is the conservative talk radio hosts really cared about "Joe Six-pack" as much as they calim to, they'd be broadcasting out of Cleveland, which would be cheaper for them and would increase jobs in that market.

But, as it turns out, they're simply hypocrytes and cowards.

Granted, most liberals are, as well, but I find few people pointing it out when it comes to conservatives.
 
Cain said:

P.S. Jim Pinkerton is an arrogant as*hole. I used to enjoy Jeff Cohen making a fool of him (not difficult) on that Fox News watch program or whatever it was called.

Pinkerton can be a real prick. I miss Jeff Cohen but sometimes Jeff's record player would start skipping and you'd hear the same "big corportations control the media" line over and over.

The thing Cohen was great at was finding a different angle/spin on a story than even I could if I tried to think like him. He is a very sharp man.
 
Tony said:
It's funny how quick people forget that CNN covered up some of Saddam's atrocities. Is there a liberal bias? No. However, there is a bias towards left-wing fascism.

Left-wing fascism? Isn´t that a contradiction in itself?
 
Chaos said:


Left-wing fascism? Isn´t that a contradiction in itself?

Absolutely not. Fascism is niether left or right-wing. Care to explain how would be?
 
You're confusing "fascism" with "totalitarianism," although common usage has tended towards accepting this.

In practice, Fascism and Totalitarian Communism tend to resemble each other a lot, but ideologically they're pretty different. (And "left-wing" is a ideological term.) Among other things, Fascism is extremely anti-Communist, and feels strongly that companies should be privately owned and gives them all sorts of rights. (Italian Fascism, the canonical example, gave corporations representation in the legislature, for pete's sake.) Also, Fascism is strongly Nationalist, whereas Communism tends to not be that. (Again, in practice, the lines tend to blur as totalitarian governments have the tendency to be more about securing their own power than anything else.)
 
Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality -- J. W. Aldridge>


In practice, Fascism and Totalitarian Communism tend to resemble each other a lot, but ideologically they're pretty different.

If they are the same practically, but different ideologically, is there really a difference? Does that difference matter? I oppose all forms or tyranny and the disparagement of the individual to the state or society, be it left-wing or right-wing.
 

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