The Jan. 6 Investigation

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This is from Mediaite.
[Last night Fox News Sean] Hannity repeated the false claim that Trump “authorized” national guardsmen to provide security on Jan. 6. But this directive was actually an offhand comment during a meeting at the White House on Jan. 5. “You’re going to need 10,000 people,” Trump reportedly said, but took no formal action to make it happen. As Congresswoman Liz Cheney pointed out in the hearing, “President Trump gave no order to deploy the National Guard that day, and he made no effort to work with the Department of Justice to coordinate and to support and deploy law enforcement assets.” Mediaite link
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I hear echoes in this of a news article I read by a journalist who remained in an eastern Ukrainian city after the Russian military took control. One morning he interviewed a pro-Russian Ukrainian official who denied the Russian military was shelling parts of the city. As they sat in his office the Russian military began shelling an area to the east. As the official droned on the reporter could see clouds of dust beginning to rise from the civilian area a mile or two east that was under attack. In a few minutes columns of black smoke began to rise. Every time a shell landed the windows in the official's office rattled. But still, the official insisted, the Russian military was not attacking any parts of the city. That it was a lie to say they were.
 

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Cain said:
I'll grant a measure of credit to Cheney and Pence for opposing criminal actions by their coalition (golf clap), but I don't understand the liberals praising them. It reminds me of a Chris Rock bit...



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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

It is a testament to the moral bankruptcy of our modern political system than anything, surely.

But all behavioral reinforcement boils down to carrots and sticks. So when members of an out of control faction make any kind of overture or movement back to sanity, cultural beneficence (the welfare of the country as a whole) is served by giving them a carrot.
 
The committee is showing the playbook of a tyrant. Will it sway anyone who doesn’t already believe this? I am doubtful but I believe it has be done if nothing more than get as many details as possible in the public record.

Our biggest threat still is voting rights of individuals and state legislators throwing out votes to insure wins.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Republican 101.

Step 1. Make evil and wrongness part of your politics.
Step 2. Crywhine at anyone calling you out on your wrongness or evil by calling it "political."
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Look around you just about anywhere.

Holding people accountable for their behavior is a heinous, unprovoked attack on them. How dare you.
 
*Scene: The Nuremberg Trial*

Nazi (Loudly) "Wow this whole thing sure seems political, amirate? It's like if you're a Nazi here you're automatically the bad guy. Way to hate people just for having different politcs than you, hypocrites."
 
The same people crying because they think Democrats investigating how Republicans tried to overthrow the government is “political” or “partisan” will also tell you there’s nothing racist about American policing because Black people do all the crime.
 
Yeah we know their trick.
They know their trick.
They know that we know.
We know they know we know.

We're at the "Chip on the shoulder, dare you to do something about it" stage and have been for a while with no readily apparent way out.
 
I read a BBC article about a young woman in Kharkiv in Ukraine, a city the Russians have been relentlessly shelling. Her parents live in Moscow. At first she was reluctant to tell her parents her area was under Russian artillery and rocket attack because she didn't want to upset them. She needn't have worried. Her parents watch Russian state TV. When she finally told them they refused to believe her.
Russian media say the threat to Ukrainian civilians doesn't come from the Russian armed forces, it comes from Ukrainian nationalists using civilians as human shields. And now a new law has passed through the Russian Parliament that means people who spread "fake" information about Russia's military forces could be jailed for up to 15 years. BBC link
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I used to wonder how things like this could happen in civilized nations. I don't wonder anymore. I'm living it. :(
 
I settled in to watch the live coverage of the J6 report, and twenty minutes in, a storm knocked out my power for the next twelve hours. I can probably find some good recaps, but I'm disappointed.

I remember on Jan 6 I was glued to my screen for the entire fiasco, feeling sick to my stomach. I wanted some kind of accountability and closure, but of course who knows if this will ever happen.
 
eerok said:
I settled in to watch the live coverage of the J6 report, and twenty minutes in, a storm knocked out my power for the next twelve hours. I can probably find some good recaps, but I'm disappointed.

I remember on Jan 6 I was glued to my screen for the entire fiasco, feeling sick to my stomach. I wanted some kind of accountability and closure, but of course who knows if this will ever happen.
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Here is full 2 hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gKHXUIC4Pc
 
Meanwhile, in the "Bizarro Universe":

Here’s how Fox and Newsmax tried to spin the January 6 committee’s first prime-time hearing

This column is about the media, and this moment exemplifies America’s two parallel tracks of media. So if you watched Thursday night’s hearing by the House’s 1/6 committee, shown live by most of the major TV networks in the United States, let me tell you what I watched on right-wing TV at the same time.

The prime-time hearing began at 8 p.m. Eastern time. When Rep. Bennie Thompson gaveled the hearing to order, Fox News host Tucker Carlson ignored him. Carlson declared that the “ruling class” was giving “yet another lecture about January 6.” He called the hearing “propaganda” and reveled in his refusal to air it. “They are lying,” he said, “and we are not going to help them do it.”

Carlson then lied himself: He said “if something noteworthy happens” at the hearing, “obviously we will bring it to you immediately.” But his show did not do that.

When Thompson said January 6 was “the culmination of an attempted coup,” Carlson asked why the news media cared at all. He barely mentioned Donald Trump, even though the former president’s plot to undermine American democracy was the focal point of the hearing. Instead, he talked a lot about Democrats and questioned why other networks were committing “collusion” with the House by televising the hearing. “Because the Democrats and the left are desperate,” his guest Jason Whitlock said.

When Rep. Liz Cheney revealed many of the committee’s findings for the first time, Carlson said everyone knows that America “could face some real problems real soon;” implied that Congress shouldn’t be wasting its time on the 1/6 investigation; and called Thompson and Cheney “lunatics.”

Carlson sounded like an amateur magician who tries to distract kids when a performance falls apart: “Look over here, not over there.” He said, “Gas is over five bucks. Inflation is higher than it’s been in the lifetime of most Americans. Violent crime is making cities impossible to live in, and more than one hundred thousand Americans ODed on drugs last year. Why isn’t there a prime time hearing about any of that?”
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You can go to the link to read what the other two clowns had to say.
 
Cain said:
I'll grant a measure of credit to Cheney and Pence for opposing criminal actions by their coalition (golf clap), but I don't understand the liberals praising them. It reminds me of a Chris Rock bit...

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Yeah it's a topsy turvy world. But say what you will, Cheney's presentation was outstanding.
 
From the link describing Tucker Carlson's comments last evening during the House telecast:
When Cheney read a text exchange between Fox stars Sean Hannity and Kayleigh McEnany from the day after the riot, with Hannity urging "no more crazy people" and "no more stolen election talk," Carlson showed the live coverage on other networks and made fun of those networks. He did not mention anything about the texts.
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