The issue of polygamy

1inChrist said:
But homosexuality is a Sin. You cannot be a Christian and a homosexual, period. I don't know where you people get the idea that one can be Christian and homosexual when it's NOT possible.
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I don't know where you get the idea that we are even discussing homosexuality?
 
Kimpatsu said:
He's obsessed withthe thrust of the idea. :p
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I AM OBSESSED ONLY WITH SPREADING THE NEWS THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN AGAINST GOD. IT'S A TEMPTATION OF THE FLESH THAT NEEDS TO BE AVOIDED BECAUSE GOD COMMANDS US TO NOT ENGAGE IN HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVITY. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE BIBLE.
 
I'm curious, does anybody know of any polygamous constructions with lots and lots of people of both sex?
 
neutrino_cannon said:
I'm curious, what examples are you familiar with?
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Well, without getting into details (for legal reasons), I've known (so far) two polygynous families, one polyandrous family, and two 'attempts' at polyquad families personally, and been aware of several dozen other poly families. The culture is out there, tucked in neatly here and there, hidden behind all manner of facades.

Poly families seem to be prevalent among splinter-Mormons, some very odd Fundy Xians, and Pagans. In the case of Pagan Polys, it seems a natural extension of the fact that so many neo-Pagans are one breath away from being hippies anyway.

Perhaps there are possible arrangements where multiple partners could work, thus alleviating the financial part of it. I could certainly see the advantages of raising children in an environment with more adults, but that would also raise a lot of complications.
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Well, the biggest problems I've seen with poly relationships have to do with ego, pride, and jealousy. If you can conquer these things, then any relationship you are in will work.

Now, in one case I am familiar with (a polygynous set-up), the two women work while the man cares for the kids. It is a singularly advantageous set-up, as the man is better with children than either woman, a better housekeeper and cook, and is probably the most feminine of the three of them. Each woman earns a decent amount, and financially, the household is fairly well off. Each woman, if she wants a child, schedules a time to do this specifically, and the other woman respects this schedule and takes every available precaution to prevent her own pregnancy.

However, this one case is clearly an exception, not a rule. The three rule the household equally, making rules together, decisions together, sharing almost everything. No one is a 'lesser' partner; no one is treated as a subordinate. It's a very rare relationship.

A polygamous relationship might be less that ideal for raising children, in that case. A one-man multiple wife setup is certainly a poor system from a genetic standpoint. You end up cutting diversity from other males while making sure that everyone is descended from an elite core of fathers.
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Yes, but I think the global population is large enough now to set aside concerns about genetic diversity - and, for the male, it's clearly advantageous - two (or more) wives to bear his genes!

Besides - the other males can find their own nookie... :D
 
1inChrist said:
I AM OBSESSED ONLY WITH SPREADING THE NEWS THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN AGAINST GOD. IT'S A TEMPTATION OF THE FLESH THAT NEEDS TO BE AVOIDED BECAUSE GOD COMMANDS US TO NOT ENGAGE IN HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVITY. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE BIBLE.
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Then start a thread about it. THat's not what's being discussed here, moron.
 
1inChrist said:
I AM OBSESSED ONLY WITH SPREADING THE NEWS THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN AGAINST GOD. IT'S A TEMPTATION OF THE FLESH THAT NEEDS TO BE AVOIDED BECAUSE GOD COMMANDS US TO NOT ENGAGE IN HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVITY. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE BIBLE.
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That's it, 1-inch. Keep telling us it's really eight inches. And remember to keep your pecker up.
 
Kimpatsu said:
That's it, 1-inch. Keep telling us it's really eight inches. And remember to keep your pecker up.
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For a buddhist you aren't very nice.
 
I bow to your experience zaayrdragon. I was unaware that there was a large subculture actually trying out polygamy outside fringe mormons. I had assumed that most of the arguments in favor of it were mostly theoretical ones by Libertarians (and no offense intended to them) and the like.

Perhaps the complexity of a human interaction increases exponentially with the number of people in it.
 
I became aware of it when we began sharing a house with a woman recovering from polygamy. Thanks to her still very active ex-boyfriend (they were never married by any legal means), we learned a LOT about the pagan polyamorous sub-culture - and, after (out of curiosity) finding a few poly-web boards (I've been out of them for a while, so don't ask me for links), I learned that most polys (at least on the net) are Fundie Xian cults that like to grow their own food, home-school their kids, and think child-beating and wife-control are all Bible-inspired behavior.

Eeek.
 
zaayrdragon said:
I became aware of it when we began sharing a house with a woman recovering from polygamy. Thanks to her still very active ex-boyfriend (they were never married by any legal means), we learned a LOT about the pagan polyamorous sub-culture - and, after (out of curiosity) finding a few poly-web boards (I've been out of them for a while, so don't ask me for links), I learned that most polys (at least on the net) are Fundie Xian cults that like to grow their own food, home-school their kids, and think child-beating and wife-control are all Bible-inspired behavior.

Eeek.
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Yeah... I think I'll stay away from that for something a little more innocuous sounding and socially acceptable... like extreme fetish S&M.

I'm curious, if you're willing to say more of course, about the pagan polyamourous subculture.
 
1inChrist said:
For a buddhist you aren't very nice.
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But for an atheist, I'm just peachy.
Does your boyfriend know you're two-timing him with me, or are you angling for a three-in-a-bed romp?
 
Operaider said:
for a Christian you come off as a little gay
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A "little" gay? Of course; he's only got 1 inch! But I'm sure he'll claim that size doesn't matter...
 
Kimpatsu said:
A "little" gay? Of course; he's only got 1 inch! But I'm sure he'll claim that size doesn't matter...
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That'll do Kimpatsu, that'll do.


Which brings up an interestingg subject, are there any homosexual relationships with more than two members?
 
Kimpatsu said:
A "little" gay? Of course; he's only got 1 inch! But I'm sure he'll claim that size doesn't matter...
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I've always got that kinda vibe from him
and then this one time I caught him checking me out in the locker room
 
neutrino_cannon said:
That'll do Kimpatsu, that'll do.
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Are you saying that he's pushing too hard with that one inch? Well, I'll be buggered!
neutrino_cannon said:
Which brings up an interestingg subject, are there any homosexual relationships with more than two members?
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Yes; gay orgies are a possibility.
 
YOU ARE A FILTHY DISGUSTING ANIMAL AND I AM HORRIFIED AS TO WHAT I AM WITNESSING HERE!!
 
Kimpatsu said:
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Yes; gay orgies are a possibility. [/B]
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From what I've read (and once again, I differ to zaayrdragon's clearly superior knowlege on the point) polyamorous relationships are not necessarily contingent with group sex.

I think you need a cold shower and a lie down. Really, your obsession with this character is unhealthy.
 
1inChrist said:
YOU ARE A FILTHY DISGUSTING ANIMAL AND I AM HORRIFIED AS TO WHAT I AM WITNESSING HERE!!
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Good; does that mean you'll bugger off? Or do we have to ram it home harder?
 
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