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The HOW THE F thread

//Total spitballing guess//

The earlier runs of the tanks had some design flaws / manufacturing errors that hadn't been ironed out yet and he was able to a mixture of capitalize on that and take credit for tanks that just... broke down and were either abandoned or scuttled (or whatever the land version of that is) to keep them from falling into the enemy's hands.

I mentioned because I've heard it discussed other contexts that this is something that does legit lead to misconceptions about a weapon's system (and surely this broad concept can apply to other things as well) effectiveness.

You design a new weapons system. A tank or plane or ship, something complicated. Sure if you're a halfway competent military you're gonna put it through its paces in drills and tests but sooner or later you've actually got to the put the thing in combat and you cannot account for all combat variables; operator stress and operational tempo if nothing else.

So you field a new weapons system in combat in relatively large number... it's not unreasonable to think you're gonna lose a few to mechanical and operator error just by pure random chance.

A plane or tank or ship two years into the war where all the design and manufacturing kinks have been ironed out and the operators are now operating on second nature is going to be a different, perhaps radically, different beast then the first fielded production run.

As an aside, I've always wondered how Rudel could have killed all those Soviet tanks w/ his Stuka

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Ulrich_Rudel

Precision fire on moving targets from any type of aircraft is difficult even when you're not taking fire*. What he did is off the charts. He has been described as possibly one of the greatest marksman that has ever lived, and I'd second that.

*I have first hand experience in the subject matter - rotary wing.
 
Precision fire on moving targets from any type of aircraft is difficult even when you're not taking fire*. What he did is off the charts. He has been described as possibly one of the greatest marksman that has ever lived, and I'd second that.

Hans Joachim Marseille was reportedly similarly amazing against manoeuvring aerial targets.
 
MHI covers almost this very issue when comparing the early T-34s to the PZIII,

https://youtu.be/1xTQ-oyo-G4

The critical part is when he discusses armor on the T-34 being often very poor quality much of the time. Some T-34s early in the war were taken out by 20mm rounds.
 

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