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When I said 80 acres I was only talking about a single layer of steel mesh being enough to cover 100 merican football fields.Now that we know there were TWO layers the 100 becomes 200. And if we add the floorpans we get 300.

So where are the 300 American football field's worth of steel mesh and floorpans ?
 
bill smith said:
Like I said...you are free to find your own photos in the thousands that are out there.
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Still waiting for you to explain how 7 floors worth of mesh and pans was supposed to magically appear on TOP of the debris pile.

If you can explain to me how this wonderous event occured and why I should expaect to find what you claim in photos, I'll be happy to try and find what you ask.
 
bill smith said:
When I said 80 acres I was only talking about a single layer of steel mesh being enough to cover 100 merican football fields.Now that we know there were TWO layers the 100 becomes 200. And if we add the floorpans we get 300.

So where are the 300 American football field's worth of steel mesh and floorpans ?
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It's buried under the pile, Bill.
 
Gamolon said:
Tell you what. Tony posted that the mesh was composed of .23" diameter steel.

Look at your photo above and find me some computer network cabling.
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here is a better pic
i honestly think ole bill never looked at these closeup shots of the pile
there is just tons of stuff

truthers like to think it was all concrete and steel
they dont even consider all the siding used (wtc sometimes was referenced as the "worlds largest aluminum siding job")

just sick really

http://www.911truth.dk/first/img/groundZeroJB1large.jpg

ETA: i read too that all the rebar was a problem at ground zero
trucks would run it over and it would snap back (like a tree branch) making it very dangerous
 
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bill smith said:
Like I said...you are free to find your own photos in the thousands that are out there.
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Like this one?
floorpan.jpg


Why don't you post the photos you are looking at so we can see exaclty what makes you think that there is no mesh or floorplans present.
 
Gamolon said:
Tell you what. Tony posted that the mesh was composed of .23" diameter steel.

Look at your photo above and find me some computer network cabling.
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hat's another god point. There must hae been thousands of miles of varous kinds of cabling in the building which also seems to be kind of rare in the rubble. You would expect there to be loads of it. Very little else was left of the computers, desks, filng cabinets.. phones...you name it. This is all kind of surprising for a gravity collapse.
 
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bill smith said:
hat's another god point. There must hae been thousands of mles of varous kinds of cabling in the building which also seems to be kind of rare in the rubble. You would expect there to be loads of it. Very little else was left of the computers, desks, filng cabinets.. phones...you name it. This is all kind of surprising for a gravity collapse.
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It's buried under the pile, Bill.

What is on the surface is invisible in any wide-angle shot of the pile.
 
Gamolon said:
Like this one?
[qimg]http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff290/gamolon/floorpan.jpg[/qimg]

Why don't you post the photos you are looking at so we can see exaclty what makes you think that there is no mesh or floorplans present.
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There is no need for me to look. I aleady know it's not there having looked for it before. If you dispute what I say then come up eith the pictures or accept what I say.
 
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bill smith said:
hat's another god point. There must hae been thousands of mles of varous kinds of cabling in the building which also seems to be kind of rare in the rubble. You would expect there to be loads of it. Very little else was left of the computers, desks, filng cabinets.. phones...you name it. This is all kind of surprising for a gravity collapse.
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they found a lot of stuff bill
look at the closeups

http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/2001/10/wtc/pdrm1956.jpg
 
bill smith said:
There is no need for me to look. I aleady know it's not there having looked for it before. If you dispute what I say then come up eith the pictures or accept what I say.
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bill dont look at anything
like many truthers hes been caught blindly copy and pasting from truther sites
even though what he pastes debunks himself
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4782976&postcount=3628
admitted never watched the movie that the article is about
so why post about it if you dont know anything about it?

[BS]"CAUSE ITS THE TROOOF"[/BS]
 
bill smith said:
hat's another god point. There must hae been thousands of mles of varous kinds of cabling in the building which also seems to be kind of rare in the rubble. You would expect there to be loads of it. Very little else was left of the computers, desks, filng cabinets.. phones...you name it. This is all kind of surprising for a gravity collapse.
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Cherrypick quotes much?

That quote if from a fireman and published in Report From Ground Zero. If you read the entire book, you'd realize how stupid the conclusion you draw from a 6 words out of 400 pages of eyewitness accounts from WTC on 9/11 is.

Close-up pictures (and, in my case, conversations with people that worked on the pile) show that it is hyperbole and metaphor and is taken literally only by the ignorant.

How did explosives that nobody heard grind up the office contents any better than 100,000 tons of steel beams falling 1,000 ft did? The idea that explosives made the pile what it was is dumb dumb dumb.

Not one of the estimated 7,000 people that worked on the pile think that anything but fire and gravity caused the collapse.
 
bill smith said:
Well I should hope so Justin. 500,000 ton buildings DO usually leve some trace of themselves when they fall. Unfortunately there is none of what we are looking for in that rubbble.
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If it's missing...where did it go? What are you proposing happened to it? (real questions, please answer..you have me confused)
 
bill smith said:
Well I should hope so Justin. 500,000 ton buildings DO usually leve some trace of themselves when they fall. Unfortunately there is none of what we are looking for in that rubbble.
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The wire is buried under the pile, Bill.
 
bill smith said:
There must hae been thousands of miles of varous kinds of cabling in the building which also seems to be kind of rare in the rubble. You would expect there to be loads of it. Very little else was left of the computers, desks, filng cabinets.. phones...you name it. This is all kind of surprising for a gravity collapse.
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Some of the items that were recovered:

  • 4,257 pieces of human remains
  • 54,000 personal effects—95% belonging to survivors, including 610 pieces of jewelry
  • $76,318.47 found loose in the fields
  • 6 kilograms of narcotics
  • 4,000 photos—found and delivered to Kodak Laboratories and NFL Films to be decontaminated and restored
  • 1,358 destroyed vehicles processed: 102 pieces of fire apparatus, 61 police department vehicles, and 1,195 personal automobiles
  • Hundreds of airplane fragments
  • Several pieces of Auguste Rodin sculptures from the offices of the investment firm Cantor Fitzgerald
  • Thousands of rounds of unexploded ammunition
Linky:
http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/wtc/recovery/notes.html
 
bill smith said:
Well I should hope so Justin. 500,000 ton buildings DO usually leve some trace of themselves when they fall. Unfortunately there is none of what we are looking for in that rubbble.
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bill there is wire and rebar in that pic
OPEN YOUR EYES
 
bill smith said:
hat's another god point. There must hae been thousands of miles of varous kinds of cabling in the building which also seems to be kind of rare in the rubble. You would expect there to be loads of it. Very little else was left of the computers, desks, filng cabinets.. phones...you name it. This is all kind of surprising for a gravity collapse.
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Really?
wtcdebris.jpg
 
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