The Heiwa Challenge

[stateofgrace]

You are right!

I knew I am pal, like every fraud before you, you hand wave anything that gets in the way of your delusions.

 

[Heiwa]

Hahahaha...still no winners? I wonder why....actually I don't wonder.

Yes, it is quite easy to show the true character of the OCTists. Just challenge them, e.g. The Heiwa Challenge! Result? Obnoxious personal attacks in lieu of factual arguments on topic. Happens everytime.

 

[stateofgrace]

Yes, it is quite easy to show the true character of the OCTists. Just challenge them, e.g. The Heiwa Challenge! Result? Obnoxious personal attacks in lieu of factual arguments on topic. Happens everytime.

Sorry did I not challenge you to back up your claim that the upper section was blown up over New York (quickly looks up the page, yep I did)?

And your insightful, highly qualified, superbly thought out response was what?

THREE WORDS.This is your factual argument on a topic you raised, right?And then you have the nerve to call anybody who asks you anything OCTists and accuse them of obnoxiuos personal attacks, are you for real pal ?

Brilliant Heiwa and there was me thinking you had nothing. For some reason you expect people to be courteous to you, you expect what you will not give. The reason for the attacks is because you will not engage, you will not back up your claims and you will not show the slightest level of common decency and manners to anybody other than to somebody who freely admits the only reason he is here is to troll.

You seriously expect your challenge to taken seriously, when every challenge put to about claims you make are simply dismissed out of hand, hand waved away or met with the most condescending posts I have ever seen on any forum. You are rightly ignored by the larger community here and at this point I choose to no longer waste my time on you.

 

[bill smith]

??? There is no lying involved with The Heiwa Challenge! Just produce a structure where part C one-way crushes part A, etc. Don't say you can do it or that it is possible. Just do it!

I wonder if a website could be developed with various challenges for ordinary people ? There must be quite a few interesting possibilities, yours included. People DO love a puzzle ? 'Spot the plane' 'All-Fall-Down' 'Aluminium-Rock Scissors' '9/11 Jenga' ...the options are endless. It could be advertised as ''learning games for all the family''. Food for thought.

 

[Heiwa]

Sorry did I not challenge you to back up your claim that the upper section was blown up over New York (quickly looks up the page, yep I did)?

And your insightful, highly qualified, superbly thought out response was what?

THREE WORDS.This is your factual argument on a topic you raised, right?And then you have the nerve to call anybody who asks you anything OCTists and accuse them of obnoxiuos personal attacks, are you for real pal ?

Brilliant Heiwa and there was me thinking you had nothing. For some reason you expect people to be courteous to you, you expect what you will not give. The reason for the attacks is because you will not engage, you will not back up your claims and you will not show the slightest level of common decency and manners to anybody other than to somebody who freely admits the only reason he is here is to troll.

You seriously expect your challenge to taken seriously, when every challenge put to about claims you make are simply dismissed out of hand, hand waved away or met with the most condescending posts I have ever seen on any forum. You are rightly ignored by the larger community here and at this point I choose to no longer waste my time on you.

A typical OCTist post! Off topic, obnoxious, etc. The Heiwa Challenge is very clear. Just design a structure that can self-destruct, when a part C of it one-way crushes part A down assisted only by gravity, etc. I know, of course, that it is impossible! That's why upper part of WTC 1 could not one-way crush down WTC 1 on 911. But it is not the topic of this thread. There are multiple threads about the WTC 1 destruction. This thread is much simpler and more challenging. Prove the phenomenon! With any structure!

It seems we are approaching 1000 posts in this thread and none has been close to defeat the challenge. So it seems I am the winner, after all.

 

[funk de fino]

I wonder if a website could be developed with various challenges for ordinary people ? There must be quite a few interesting possibilities, yours included. People DO love a puzzle ? 'Spot the plane' 'All-Fall-Down' 'Aluminium-Rock Scissors' '9/11 Jenga' ...the options are endless. It could be advertised as ''learning games for all the family''. Food for thought.

People do not like scumbags making fun of thousands of people dying. Stop acting like a jerk.

 

[stateofgrace]

A typical OCTist post! Off topic, obnoxious, etc. The Heiwa Challenge is very clear. Just design a structure that can self-destruct, when a part C of it one-way crushes part A down assisted only by gravity, etc. I know, of course, that it is impossible! That's why upper part of WTC 1 could not one-way crush down WTC 1 on 911. But it is not the topic of this thread. There are multiple threads about the WTC 1 destruction. This thread is much simpler and more challenging. Prove the phenomenon! With any structure!

It seems we are approaching 1000 posts in this thread and none has been close to defeat the challenge. So it seems I am the winner, after all.

Well, DUH, yep pal you are the winner. The winner of thinking up the dumbest challenge ever and wondering why nobody bothers with it.

Answer my challenge winner, come on champ, show us how a “winner “ can spit out more than three words and formulate some form of reasonable post.

COME ON CHAMP , back up your claim.YOU made the claim that the upper section of WTC 1 was blown up in THIS THREAD. This is on topic, it is the topic you brought up, in your own thread.

when the whole upper part C is blown apart

I challenge Heiwa to offer maths, logic, facts and evidence to support the above claim.
I challenge Heiwa to support fully his claim that some fifteens floors, the core, the top hat and the roof was blown up in the centre of New York.
I challenge Heiwa to explain fully what happened to the mass of the upper section once it had been blown up.I challenge him to explain fully where this mass went once it was blown up.
I challenge Heiwa to explain fully, using his engineering expertise, to describe in detail the exact amount of explosives that would be needed to ensure the entire upper section was blown up.
I challenge Heiwa to explain fully the amount of explosives it was required to blow up the upper section and why such an amount once denonated was not noticed or recorded by anybody.
I challenge Heiwa to explain fully why the upper section was blown up and how the explosives survived the plane impact.
I challenge Heiwa to offer a full explanation as to the precise sequence of events regarding the lower section once the upper section had been blown up

And finally I challenge Heiwa to explain fully, once the upper section had been blown up, why nobody heard the upper or lower sections being blown up.

I challenge you Heiwa to not hand wave this post away, I challenge you to offer up your maths, your logic, your expertise and back up your claim.

There is nothing more obnoxious than a self declared winner who cannot back up what he claims. It goes beyond obnoxious, but after twenty five pages of this dross, you seem well practiced at it.Come on give us a winning post and show me why you are not a waste of time.

 

[dafydd]

I think that the Heiwa Challenge should be to sneak into two large buildings in New York,plant a large amount of explosives in places where nobody can see them,wire them up and make a clandestine exit.Call the A Team.

 

[dafydd]

A typical OCTist post! Off topic, obnoxious, etc. The Heiwa Challenge is very clear. Just design a structure that can self-destruct, when a part C of it one-way crushes part A down assisted only by gravity, etc. I know, of course, that it is impossible! That's why upper part of WTC 1 could not one-way crush down WTC 1 on 911. But it is not the topic of this thread. There are multiple threads about the WTC 1 destruction. This thread is much simpler and more challenging. Prove the phenomenon! With any structure!

It seems we are approaching 1000 posts in this thread and none has been close to defeat the challenge. So it seems I am the winner, after all.

In your fantasy world you are always the winner.It's called self-delusion.

 

[tsig]

A typical OCTist post! Off topic, obnoxious, etc. The Heiwa Challenge is very clear. Just design a structure that can self-destruct, when a part C of it one-way crushes part A down assisted only by gravity, etc. I know, of course, that it is impossible! That's why upper part of WTC 1 could not one-way crush down WTC 1 on 911. But it is not the topic of this thread. There are multiple threads about the WTC 1 destruction. This thread is much simpler and more challenging. Prove the phenomenon! With any structure!

It seems we are approaching 1000 posts in this thread and none has been close to defeat the challenge. So it seems I am the winner, after all.

So now you proclaim victory? Your challenge was proved a lie.

 

[stateofgrace]

In your fantasy world you are always the winner.It's called self-delusion.

But he really is a winner.

We've seen the staggeringly ignorant and outright bizarre nonsense spewed by Gage and the "experts" whose opinions he promotes. Is Björkman's promotion by AE911Truth another fallacious appeal to authority, or has he done some sensible analysis of the events of 9/11? Bjorkman posts as "Heiwa" on the JREF forum:​

Björkman claims that no planes hit the Twin Towers or the Pentagon or crashed near Shanksville, which makes him a rarity even among the most delusional "truthers": a quadruple no-planer.
Björkman claims that all evidence of the aircraft impacts is fake and all witness accounts are invalid. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again.
Björkman claims that if 30 stories of one of the Twin Towers was dropped on the lower 80 stories from a height of two miles, it would bounce off without damaging the lower portion. And again.
Björkman says a Tower wouldn't be destroyed if a 60-million-pound block of ice was dropped on it, then denies making that claim.
Björkman claims that all photo and video evidence showing severe fires and structural failure in the WTC buildings is fake. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again.
Björkman claims that WTC 7 was demolished by a vacuum.
Björkman believes that the authors of the NIST WTC reports don't exist.
Björkman believes that steel structures are indestructible, even by nuclear weapons. And again. And again. However, Björkman also believes that 16,500-22,000 lbs of high explosives may have been used to demolish each Twin Tower...with no detectable detonations.
Björkman is an engineer who believes that weight = mass. No, really.
Björkman believes his house would survive an asteroid impact.
Björkman again attempts to revise the laws of physics.
Björkman says a bathroom scale will register the same weight whether you stand on it or jump on it.
Björkman says the Twin Tower fires were "minor office fires."
Björkman makes the egregiously false claim that the FDNY said it could handle the fires in the Towers.
Björkman believes that columns become stronger when their supports are removed.
Björkman believes that the structures of the Twin Towers were comparable to cheese, pizza boxes, match boxes, rubber balls, sponges, a bicycle running into a wall, a child jumping on a bed, a tower of sushi, and a tower of lemons.
Björkman has been nominated for the JREF forum "Stundie," an award for the looniest conspiracist statement of the month, far more times than anyone, and has been voted the "winner" several times. His avoidance of mountains of facts and expertise, his complete ignorance of the most basic engineering concepts, and his insistence that special laws of physics apply in his world, are perhaps surpassed only by the inimitable Judy "Star Wars Beams" Wood. Read about the errors he makes in his website paper here.

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/home

 

[tuc0]

But he really is a winner.

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/home

And now consider he has some kind of almost relevant degree and is about as good as the "Truth" movement gets...

 

[Heiwa]

But he really is a winner.

Obnoxiously off topic as usual. This thread is about The Heiwa Challenge. Very simple! Design a, any structure that selfdestructs due to gravity.

After 1000 posts I will declare myself, definitely, the winner.

 

[stateofgrace]

Obnoxiously off topic as usual. This thread is about The Heiwa Challenge. Very simple! Design a, any structure that selfdestructs due to gravity.

After 1000 posts I will declare myself, definitely, the winner.

Really? So why did you derail it by claiming the upper section of WTC 1 was blown up? Why did you further derail it by calling anybody who asked you to prove this statement an obnoxious OCTist?

Come on champ where is your winning post?

 

[Heiwa]

Really? So why did you derail it by claiming the upper section of WTC 1 was blown up? Why did you further derail it by calling anybody who asked you to prove this statement an obnoxious OCTist?

Come on champ where is your winning post?

Here! Post #1.

 

[tfk]

Obnoxiously off topic as usual. This thread is about The Heiwa Challenge. Very simple! Design a, any structure that selfdestructs due to gravity.

After 1000 posts I will declare myself, definitely, the winner.

And perhaps you could find somebody - OTHER THAN a complete buffoon - who cares if you declare yourself the winner.

And monkeys might fly out of my butt...



tk

PS. The cornerstone of your strategy for "victory" is simply ignoring the numerous people who have torn your silliness to shreds. Fingers in your ears, dancing around the room, shouting "I win, I win".

Deaf, blind and dumb. Emphasis on DUMB.

 

[stateofgrace]

Here! Post #1.

Did you answer the questions in post 1 ?

Really? So why did you derail it by claiming the upper section of WTC 1 was blown up? Why did you further derail it by calling anybody who asked you to prove this statement an obnoxious OCTist?

Where are your answers, champ ?

 

[bill smith]

So is it the landmark post 1,000 yet ?

 

[FineWine]

Hahahaha...still no winners? I wonder why....actually I don't wonder.

Of course you don't wonder. To be able to wonder, it is necessary to be able to think.

The Heiwa challenge has nothing to do with the collapses of the twin towers on 9/11/01.

 

[FineWine]

Obnoxiously off topic as usual. This thread is about The Heiwa Challenge. Very simple! Design a, any structure that selfdestructs due to gravity.

After 1000 posts I will declare myself, definitely, the winner.

Congratulations! As your prize, you DON'T get your worthless papers published in any respectable journal.

Regarding the National Geographic documentary, I believe a DVD is available. However, there is little point in your watching. You have demonstrated a total inability to learn anything.