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The Heiwa Challenge

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"Newsflash" or not, this thread is the twisted "Heiwa Challenge" and it was just pointed out that you and your CT friends are delusional failures who have not been able to support an argument about anything.

Don't you have anything to say about that?
 
bill smith said:
It's just a NEWSFLASH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2yT0uBQbM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2E911blogger%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded
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Gage is a liar. Are Gage's delusions your delusions too? It takes massive ignorance on a multitude of subject areas to believe what Gage has made up.

You have zero evidence to back up Gage. You like lies about 911.

Gage and Heiwa are a matched pair; both push delusional ideas on 911. What do the moronic rantings of Gage have to do with the moronic ideas of Heiwa?
 
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beachnut said:
Gage is a liar. Are Gage's delusions your delusions too? It takes massive ignorance on a multitude of subject areas to believe what Gage has made up.

You have zero evidence to back up Gage. You like lies about 911.



Gage and Heiwa are a matched pair; both push delusional ideas on 911. What do the moronic rantings of Gage have to do with the moronic ideas of Heiwa?
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Did you see this comment ?

''Why are the views frozen at 324 views for the last couple of hours, even though tons of comments have been made during this time? Strange.''

Why do you think Google has frozen the counter ? A technical error maybe ? lol
 
bill smith said:
Did you see this comment ?

''Why are the views frozen at 324 views for the last couple of hours, even though tons of comments have been made during this time? Strange.''

Why do you think Google has frozen the counter ? A technical error maybe ? lol
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Paranoia Bill. Your not alone.
 
FineWine said:
You've created some excellent posts in this thread. It must frustrate you to reflect on how small your audience is. The other engineers know the stuff you're explaining. Heiwa and his mindless echoes are incapable of learning anything. So, you're left with maybe a dozen of us who really appreciate your efforts. Speaking just for myself, thank you very much.
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Typicallucas said:
Hear, hear.
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Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

It's interesting to watch first-hand the rationalization that the truthers use to dismiss what I post. I've never been personally demonized before. It's very interesting (& kinda fun, kinda spooky) to watch up close & personal.

The same thing has happened with virtually everyone who has stood up for sanity. Ryan Mackey, Bazant, Steve O'Brien (the pilot of the C130). Even the lady who took the picture of the Shanksville smoke plume of Flight 93. I suspect that Lyndie England has too. (Which, along with advancing years, I suspect led to some of his strange statements during the last cruel P4T video.)

But it's also led to some hilarious moments.

I've had one whack job try to chase me to my hometown & evoke a "there's a monster in your midst" bruhaha. The response: nothing.

And this one is PRICELESS.

This poster (seercirra) is a regular at Topix. He/she has pegged those of us who disagree with him as all shills, gov't disinfo agents.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=907423


In this post, I was responding to him (posting under the puppet of "Ribbon") that he shouldn't be declaring victory for the Twoof movement prematurely.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04T49GGG7HFO/post30323
I said,

tomk52 said:
"Why don't you wait till the end of the ninth, instead of declaring victory after the first pitch...?"
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This is PRICELESS: her interpretation of my comment:

She started a thread on David Icke's site entitled: "Beware the end of the month"!!
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04T49GGG7HFO/post30323
seercirra said:
Yesterday, a certain shill got caught out. While trying to disprove what another truther was saying, he inadvertently proved that the WTC's were demolished.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstorie...9GGG7HFO/p1435
watch the postings of Tomk52. datamine his posts. go back 1000 pages, check every page in between. It soon becomes clear what his job is.

Anyway-

Seercirra wrote:
congratulations. more evidence that the twin towers were demolished.

Tomk52 wrote:
Why don't you wait till the end of the ninth, instead of declaring victory after the first pitch...?

Seercirra wrote:
Oh? so what happens at the end of this month?

Tom52k wrote:
You lose


I think i riled him up a little and he blurted it out.

Far from definitive evidence something will happen, i know.
but this guy IS a shill, he IS an insider.
he WOULD be aware if something were to go down.
He's also given me plenty of underhand death threats, and he advocates the use of torture for children. (although he tries to excuse himself by making the subject into a joke) but go - ask him if anyone should have the power to torture children. see how he CANNOT say "no".


just beware
we all know its about the right time for another terrorist attack, or the release of airborne bird flu.

thats all. take care
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I don't THINK that I've ever been to origin of a tiny little mass hysteria before. It makes me feel, uh, powerful.
:eek:

So there are little compensations for the annoyances...

LOL.


tom
 
bill smith said:
Did you see this comment ?

''Why are the views frozen at 324 views for the last couple of hours, even though tons of comments have been made during this time? Strange.''

Why do you think Google has frozen the counter ? A technical error maybe ? lol
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I seem to recall that the view counter changes only when someone watches a video to completion.
 
Heiwa said:
Hm, according experience gained from The Heiwa Challenge gravity cannot one-way crush down a structure. And I have an engineering degree + good knowledge of physics ... and am the man behind the Björkman Axiom (see Google). This thread is just to produce a structure that can one-way crush down itself. If you think any towers did so on 911, you'll have to prove it. Don't delude anybody!
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Heiwa We have been arguing on another thread about how the antenna was attached to WTC1. Whether it was attached to the hat truss or directly to he core columns. If you have some time will you read through some of the posts and give an opinion ? Thanks bill.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4759335&posted=1#post4759335
 
bill smith said:
Heiwa We have been arguing on another thread about how the antenna was attached to WTC1. Whether it was attached to the hat truss or directly to he core columns. If you have some time will you read through some of the posts and give an opinion ? Thanks bill.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4759335&posted=1#post4759335
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There's no argument. The fact that it was attached to the hat truss is well known. Why you think your pathetic fraud guru would have anything interesting to add to an indisputable fact is beyond everyone possessed of a rational mind.
 
bill smith said:
Heiwa We have been arguing on another thread about how the antenna was attached to WTC1. Whether it was attached to the hat truss or directly to he core columns. If you have some time will you read through some of the posts and give an opinion ? Thanks bill.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4759335&posted=1#post4759335
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From one of my papers:

3.5 The Hat Truss

On top of the cage a 'hat truss' is fitted. It is 4 strong frames on each side extending over three floors connecting four core columns with four perimeter wall columns (not shown) as per below figure:

Hattruss.jpg


The main purpose of the hat truss is to provide support for a mast on top of the cage and distribute some loads to the wall perimeter columns.

Actually, the 4 + 4 hat truss frames are not really very strong. A hat truss was also fitted on WTC 2, where no mast was fitted.

I would suggest that the real purpose of the hat truss frames were simply to support the top edges of the outside walls and connect them to the core - a roof beam, so to say.
 
Slayhamlet said:
There's no argument. The fact that it was attached to the hat truss is well known. Why you think your pathetic fraud guru would have anything interesting to add to an indisputable fact is beyond everyone possessed of a rational mind.
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Bill needs the help because he cant think for himself. Heiwa needs Bill to bolster his ego and the TM needs them both because Roundhead, Kreel, HI and Ultima1 cant put a decent sentence together to do the TM any favours.
 
Heiwa said:
From one of my papers:

3.5 The Hat Truss

On top of the cage a 'hat truss' is fitted. It is 4 strong frames on each side extending over three floors connecting four core columns with four perimeter wall columns (not shown) as per below figure:

[qimg]http://heiwaco.tripod.com/Hattruss.jpg[/qimg]

The main purpose of the hat truss is to provide support for a mast on top of the cage and distribute some loads to the wall perimeter columns.

Actually, the 4 + 4 hat truss frames are not really very strong. A hat truss was also fitted on WTC 2, where no mast was fitted.

I would suggest that the real purpose of the hat truss frames were simply to support the top edges of the outside walls and connect them to the core - a roof beam, so to say.
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Looks quite a structure to me. Much have weighed some too. Possibly even became top heavy once the aircraft took out its integrity of supports below.
 
Heiwa said:
From one of my papers:

3.5 The Hat Truss

On top of the cage a 'hat truss' is fitted. It is 4 strong frames on each side extending over three floors connecting four core columns with four perimeter wall columns (not shown) as per below figure:

[qimg]http://heiwaco.tripod.com/Hattruss.jpg[/qimg]

The main purpose of the hat truss is to provide support for a mast on top of the cage and distribute some loads to the wall perimeter columns.

Actually, the 4 + 4 hat truss frames are not really very strong. A hat truss was also fitted on WTC 2, where no mast was fitted.

I would suggest that the real purpose of the hat truss frames were simply to support the top edges of the outside walls and connect them to the core - a roof beam, so to say.
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Very interesting.Did the core columns go through this hat truss up to the roof or did they stop at the 107th floor and have this hat truss built on top ? To me it looks like the sticking-out beams connected to the spandrel belts.
 
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bill smith said:
Very interesting.Did the core columns go through this hat truss up to the roof or did they stop at the 107th floor and have ths hat truss built on top ? To me it looks like the sticking-out beams connected to the spandrel belts.
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Sock puppet much through PM Bill. All of a sudden youve gone all knowledgeable and educated on us. Not!
 
Heiwa said:
From one of my papers:

3.5 The Hat Truss

On top of the cage a 'hat truss' is fitted. It is 4 strong frames on each side extending over three floors connecting four core columns with four perimeter wall columns (not shown) as per below figure:

[qimg]http://heiwaco.tripod.com/Hattruss.jpg[/qimg]

The main purpose of the hat truss is to provide support for a mast on top of the cage and distribute some loads to the wall perimeter columns.

Actually, the 4 + 4 hat truss frames are not really very strong. A hat truss was also fitted on WTC 2, where no mast was fitted.

I would suggest that the real purpose of the hat truss frames were simply to support the top edges of the outside walls and connect them to the core - a roof beam, so to say.
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Yes, but the original plan was to put an antenna on BOTH tower 1 & 2. And from ariel shots of the roofs of the towers, it looks to me like they put a helipad where the antenna was supposed to be on tower 2.
 
Heiwa said:
From one of my papers:

3.5 The Hat Truss

On top of the cage a 'hat truss' is fitted. It is 4 strong frames on each side extending over three floors connecting four core columns with four perimeter wall columns (not shown) as per below figure:

[qimg]http://heiwaco.tripod.com/Hattruss.jpg[/qimg]

The main purpose of the hat truss is to provide support for a mast on top of the cage and distribute some loads to the wall perimeter columns.

Actually, the 4 + 4 hat truss frames are not really very strong. A hat truss was also fitted on WTC 2, where no mast was fitted.

I would suggest that the real purpose of the hat truss frames were simply to support the top edges of the outside walls and connect them to the core - a roof beam, so to say.
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Look at thiis photo and the lack of support cables and then look at the blue structure and imagine how the support for the giant 30-storey mast worked without being attached to the core columns.
http://www.city-data.com/cpic/ufiles516.jpg antenna hi-res
 
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