The Heiwa Challenge

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Heiwa said:
AA. Nowhere! Daddy may help you!

BB. Nowhere. But then you could not enter it in The Heiwa Challenge until later.

CC. Nowhere. But they have to comply with the rules - see post #1.

DD. WTC 1 & 2 are already destroyed. But you/Daddy can copy them! I will assist you!

Thus: Build a core on ground! Then make four external walls on ground around core. You connect the walls in the corners. Then put/bolt floors, say 100 off, between core/external walls! Put a hat truss on top. This structure is h meters high! Good. Do lateral test!

Then cut core and walls at 1/10 h from top and lift top part a little using hat truss.

You'll note that core and walls of top, 1/10 h high, now hangs from the hat truss! And that 10 floors are positioned between walls/core about h/100 apart.

OK, now you are supposed to drop the 1/10 h top, part C, on lower 9/10 h structure, part A.

Now - what contacts what at impact? The top C core probably contacts part A core! Do the C walls contact the A walls? The walls are pretty thin! Maybe two C walls contact the top A floor just inside the walls and the other two C walls contact nothing? And maybe two A walls contact the bottom C floor? Pls tell me, what contacts what.

What happens then? Well, it depends on what contacts what at impact.

It seems contacts/impact are a bit unsymmetrical, to say the least, e.g. nothing contacts the top A floor at two walls!!

Pls, tell me then how the top A floor will be damaged?

Pls, read http://heiwaco.tripod.com/nist3.htm for further tips.

Good luck with your structure/test/entry to The Heiwa Challenge!
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You had me at "pizza boxes".
 
Heiwa said:
No, the structures have to comply with the rules to become valid entries. That's your (and Daddy's) job.
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Which condition does the WTC tower 1 or 2 break?

The original WTC towers as they collapsed on 9/11/2001 don't appear to break any of the conditions you have set up for your challenge.

So, do I win the challenge or not?


Heiwa said:
The Heiwa Challenge


It is assumed at JREF 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Forum that a structure will be crushed, if you drop a piece (1/10th) of the same structure on it and that it is quite normal - no conspiracy. So here is the challenge: Prove it!

Conditions:

1. The structure is supposed to have a certain cross area A and height h and is fixed on the ground. The structure is an assembly of various elements of any type. It can be any size!
2. The structure should be more or less identical from h = 0 to h = h, e.g. uniform density, layout of internal elements, etc. Horizontal elements in structure should be identical. Vertical, load carrying elements should be similar and be uniformly stressed due to gravity, i.e. bottom vertical elements may be reinforced or made a little stronger, if required. Connections between elements should be similar throughout.
3. It is recognized that the structure may be a little higher stressed at h=0 than h=h due to uniform density, elements, etc.
4. Before drop test the structure shall be stable, i.e. carry itself and withstand a small lateral impact at top without falling apart. Connections between elements cannot rely solely on friction.
5. Before test 1/10th of the structure is disconnected at the top at h = 0.9 h without damaging the structure.
6. The lower structure, 0.9 h high is then called part A. The top part, 0.1 h high, is called part C.
7. Mass of part C should be <1/9th of mass of part A.
8. Now drop part C on part A and crush part A (if you can! That's the test).
9. In order to easily repeat the test/challenge drop height should be <1.1 h, i.e. C can only be dropped from 2h above ground on A that is 0.9 h high.
10. Structure is only considered crushed, when >70% of the elements in part A are disconnected from each other after test, i.e. drop by part C on A.

Have a try! I look forward to your structures!

Heiwa
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willhaven said:
AA. Which condition does the WTC tower 1 or 2 break?

BB. The original WTC towers as they collapsed on 9/11/2001 don't appear to break any of the conditions you have set up for your challenge.

CC. So, do I win the challenge or not?
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AA. 8, 9 or 10?

BB. See AA.

CC. Have another try. Please read post #1 carefully.
 
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There needs to be some type of crockaduck or pigasus award for Heiwa.

Oh to see his face upon seeing that last NatGeo speciel on 9/11 conspiracies.
 
Heiwa said:
See post #1 above.

BTW I'll pay you $1M if you can produce a structure that can be crushed like that. Suteki desu ne!? Get working!
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hasn't he claimed recently that it was just a challenge, and no money was promised?? I see that he is as much a liar as Redibis.
 
Man... It must hurt when the French defeat you, because, like, that never happens...
 
Sam.I.Am said:
Man... It must hurt when the French defeat you, because, like, that never happens...
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I was going to say that the French invaded us quite nicely in 1066, but in reality the Normans were really Vikings :D
So, yep, we're still looking.
 
Heiwa said:
The Heiwa Challenge
Conditions:

1. The structure is supposed to have a certain cross area A and height h and is fixed on the ground. The structure is an assembly of various elements of any type. It can be any size!
2. The structure should be more or less identical from h = 0 to h = h, e.g. uniform density, layout of internal elements, etc. Horizontal elements in structure should be identical. Vertical, load carrying elements should be similar and be uniformly stressed due to gravity, i.e. bottom vertical elements may be reinforced or made a little stronger, if required. Connections between elements should be similar throughout.
3. It is recognized that the structure may be a little higher stressed at h=0 than h=h due to uniform density, elements, etc.
4. Before drop test the structure shall be stable, i.e. carry itself and withstand a small lateral impact at top without falling apart. Connections between elements cannot rely solely on friction.
5. Before test 1/10th of the structure is disconnected at the top at h = 0.9 h without damaging the structure.
6. The lower structure, 0.9 h high is then called part A. The top part, 0.1 h high, is called part C.
7. Mass of part C should be <1/9th of mass of part A.
8. Now drop part C on part A and crush part A (if you can! That's the test).
9. In order to easily repeat the test/challenge drop height should be <1.1 h, i.e. C can only be dropped from 2h above ground on A that is 0.9 h high.
10. Structure is only considered crushed, when >70% of the elements in part A are disconnected from each other after test, i.e. drop by part C on A.
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So which part of the Verinage techniques in France are against your 10 rules?

what part again? I can see how it is close to #7... the best we have been able to find is 2 floors crushing down 13 floors... so that isn't quite 10%.

But weren't you stating emphatically that you didn't care because 49% couldn't crushdown 51% of ANY STRUCTURE EVER?

I would swear that Bill S (before I had her on ignore) was your wonderful parrot. Come on Heiwa, either man up and admit that 1/3 can crush down 2/3, or provide the rationale on how none of the verinage techniques meet your requirements.
 
Let it die. He's lost and you're just encouraging him to spam us still further.
 
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