The Harley Guy has been positively identified.

[leftysergeant]

The twoof tards have made extensive use of the now-famous clip of the "Harley Guy" talking to a Faux News reporter about what he witnessed on 9/11. They have even tried to claim that he was an actor named Humphries. "Real people don't talk like that," the twoofers whine.

WRONG.

His name is Mark Walsh and he is a freelance reporter of some sort for Faux News.

Reporters do talk like that.

Look at the whole bloody clip, twoofers.



OY!

 

[Quad4_72]

He said the plane came out of nowhere. That must mean the hologram projector did not kick in till the plane was a few hundred meters away.

 

[ergo]

LOL. So the fact he's a FOX news reporter makes him so much more credible?

And how did we gain access to this extra information on this clip? Hmm?

 

[triforcharity]

No, that doesn't make him more credible. Nice strawman.

It makes it known who he is.

Like, "My father, the engineer"

"My brother, the fire chief"

See how that works?!

 

[Horatius]

And how did we gain access to this extra information on this clip? Hmm?

Somebody watched 30 more seconds of video than truthers are apparently capable of watching.

I know, watching 30 more seconds is such a hard burden for you "truth seekers", but there ya go.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

Somebody watched 30 more seconds of video than truthers are apparently capable of watching.

I know, watching 30 more seconds is such a hard burden for you "truth seekers", but there ya go.

Wait. It's on video. It MUST be true.

 

[ergo]

Somebody watched 30 more seconds of video than truthers are apparently capable of watching.

Right, and they only posted it nine years later.

Cripes.

 

[triforcharity]

Yeah, that's it Ergo, Fox hid it for 9+ years......

 

[Horatius]

Right, and they only posted it nine years later.

Cripes.

It was truthers who found this footage, and declared it "evidence" that the "official story" was being "scripted" almost from the very beginning. It was also truthers who declared that this guy's identity was a "mystery", and spent untold hours speculating about who he might be, what he might know, and how they might discover all this. They went looking for obscure footage of unknown actors, and declared that "this was the guy!"


And in all that time, not one of these "researchers", who constantly tell us to "do our own research" ever - EVER - apparently bothered to just go look at the original footage, in which all these questions were explicitly answered in the 30 seconds of footage just prior to the "great mystery" footage they have spent so much time "investigating".


And somehow, you want to spin this as additional evidence that "someone" was withholding Teh Twoof, rather than reach the much more reasonable conclusion that, once again, truther "researchers" have been shown to lack even the most basic of research skills - that is, actually going back and looking at the original source material.

Pathetic.

 

[Michal]

let me get this stright. Just because he is a Fox News reporter/freelancer and he reports from the very site is the reason for you to believe it is true.

Yes/No

 

[triforcharity]

No, that is a strawman.

We believe it's true because the facts show us, that it is true.

 

[Childlike Empress]

It was truthers who found this footage, and declared it "evidence" that the "official story" was being "scripted" almost from the very beginning. It was also truthers who declared that this guy's identity was a "mystery", and spent untold hours speculating about who he might be, what he might know, and how they might discover all this. They went looking for obscure footage of unknown actors, and declared that "this was the guy!"


And in all that time, not one of these "researchers", who constantly tell us to "do our own research" ever - EVER - apparently bothered to just go look at the original footage, in which all these questions were explicitly answered in the 30 seconds of footage just prior to the "great mystery" footage they have spent so much time "investigating".


And somehow, you want to spin this as additional evidence that "someone" was withholding Teh Twoof, rather than reach the much more reasonable conclusion that, once again, truther "researchers" have been shown to lack even the most basic of research skills - that is, actually going back and looking at the original source material.

Pathetic.

"Mark Humphrey is the Harley Guy" was a stunt by Killtown and "his" gang of anonymous internet stalkers. It came to your attention through promotion by our friend Pat Curley's charming little blog. You just didn't pay attention enough to realize that it was debunked shortly after it came out, by dem evil twoofers themselves.

Lazy.

 

[Horatius]

let me get this stright. Just because he is a Fox News reporter/freelancer and he reports from the very site is the reason for you to believe it is true.

Yes/No

Believe what is true? That this guy saw the impacts and collapses? That he then made the perfectly obvious connection that it was that, and the fires, that caused the collapse? Why wouldn't I believe that, no matter who he is? What did he say that day that should in any way stand out as a lie, let alone a lie that had to be planted by some nefarious cabal?

The only reason any truthers ever latched onto this interview is because it shows a guy who contradicted their notions of what happened that day, and they therefore concluded that he must have been "in on it". In fact, he says nothing more about the collapse than I myself concluded once I saw the videos later in the day. It's only in the fantasy world of truthers that a guy on the scene making statements about obvious conclusions is somehow nefarious.

And to even make it that nefarious, they had to ignore those parts of their own evidence that answered most of the "questions" they claimed to have about it.

"Mark Humphrey is the Harley Guy" was a stunt by Killtown and "his" gang of anonymous internet stalkers. It came to your attention through promotion by our friend Pat Curley's charming little blog. You just didn't pay attention enough to realize that it was debunked shortly after it came out, by dem evil twoofers themselves.

Lazy.

So, a stunt by a truther. As I said, he spent time finding some stupidity instead of bothering to find the actual evidence. That some other truthers called BS on that particular bit of nonsense doesn't change what I said. And note that even those in that thread who don't believe it was that particular actor still believe it was an actor, and still didn't know who he really was.

 

[leftysergeant]

By claiming that he was Humphry, the twoofers also built a case that some or many of the "witnesses" seen in the news reports really weren't and that it was stage-managed. As it turns out, the dude lived right there in the neighborhood.

We probably know now what to make of Killtown's research methods in re his "mathematical proof" that the smoke cloud at Shanksville was photoshopped it EOS or that it was an ordnance blast at another location. I suspect that it was Rumpl4skn who did the facial landmarks analysis that identified Harley Guy as Humphry.

Well, he got the first name right.

 

[ergo]

Not really. As Childlike Empress points out, that notion was debunked some time ago. The point still remained, however, that people you just happen to grab on the street for an interview within an hour of the event are not going to be offering their opinions on the collapse mode vis a vis the "structural integrity" of the buildings. Real witnesses were in shock and could barely get out their words.

The interview is still bogus, and now we have just that much more evidence that it was.

 

[triforcharity]

Bazant figured it out the same day also.

 

[ergo]

Yes, but he seemed to require all this difficult math to come to the same conclusions. And he sure was in an awful hurry to publish....

 

[Childlike Empress]

So, a stunt by a truther. As I said, he spent time finding some stupidity instead of bothering to find the actual evidence. That some other truthers called BS on that particular bit of nonsense doesn't change what I said. And note that even those in that thread who don't believe it was that particular actor still believe it was an actor, and still didn't know who he really was.

No, not a stunt by "a truther", but a stunt by the well-known harassment project "Killtown et al". It wasn't "some other truthers" who objected to it, but everybody except a few mislead forumites at 911movement and some other places where they spread it, and the drooling readers of SLC who enthusiasticly sucked it up.

 

[The Big Dog]

"Mark Humphrey is the Harley Guy" was a stunt by Killtown and "his" gang of anonymous internet stalkers. It came to your attention through promotion by our friend Pat Curley's charming little blog. You just didn't pay attention enough to realize that it was debunked shortly after it came out, by dem evil twoofers themselves.

Lazy.

Indeed, you are very lazy, CE. You appeared not to have read the link you posted. Your pal, Jenny Sparks only responded to Killtown's claim that the Harley Guy was Humphrey. She did nothing to debunk the claim that the guy was a fake and a plant.

Interesting that you seem eager to slam Killtown, who runs around with Dom, one of your new best buddies over at CIT.

 

[triforcharity]

Yes, but he seemed to require all this difficult math to come to the same conclusions. And he sure was in an awful hurry to publish....

No, he most likely came to those conclusions, then did the math to prove it.

Speaking of math, how is your paper coming along?