The Gospel

delphi_ote said:
If my count is right, you bring the total seven. At this point, I'm convinced that from now on I'll instantly be able to tell if someone is cool just by asking them if they like the movie Clue.
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I like it too...Doesn't that throw a wrench into the gears of your little plan? MWAHAHAHAHA!
 
Funny:

Looked up "Murder by Death" to see if I could buy it; I'd love to see it again.
On Amazon's page, near the bottom, it read:

"Amazon shoppers who bought Murder by Death also liked Clue." It listed no other movies.

Hee.




ETA: Due to the derail, is this thread now an :deadp?
 
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Oh, no...it's just now a freefire zone until some "responsible" person comes through with a writ of remander and kicks out us squaters.
 
I think I make eight. I have two VHS copies and one DVD. I used to watch it every night as I fell asleep. This led to some odd dreams. But now I know I'm totally cool and smart cause Delphi_Ote said so.
 
Roadtoad said:
According to scripture, a Christian should not be "unequally yoked."

So, yes, it's likely Kathy would consider it a sin.
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I would have to say the way I will answer this question is that being yolked w/ a non-believer would not be God's best for my life. It can cause even more conflicts in a relationship when two people are not equally yolked! God is loving and he only wants the best for us. It's our compromise that can complicate things. Why do you think God warns us about sin? He knows ultimately it is going to hurt us and he really doesn't want that for us. I am reminded today w/ BibleGateways verse of the day... Jeremiah 29:11-13
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
 
A little experiment

kurious_kathy said:
Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
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Lies written by man to control the gullible.

Let's do an experiment to test this, shall we?

Kathy, get on your knees and tell God one of His wounded children needs $30,000 to pay off student loans.

I'll go buy a lottery ticket today; a quick-pick. God can choose the winning numbers.

I'll let you know tomorrow if I won.

If I do, I'll renounce atheism and attend the church of your choice until the day I die, singing praises every day.

If I don't, you'll shut your gob about these so-called promises and never mention them here again.

If you refuse, you'll also shut up about them, as it's just plain cruel.

Ready? Get praying.
 
kurious_kathy said:
I am reminded today w/ BibleGateways verse of the day... Jeremiah 29:11-13
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
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Funny. It should have been written:

"...Then you will call upon me and come pray to me, and I will listen to you. So please leave your name, home phone number and a brief message describing your prayer, and I will get back to you at my earliest convenience. I am too busy at the moment making images of my son miraculously appear on tree bark and moldy pieces of bread. Should your prayer be in response to an actual emergency, please dial 911. BEEEEEEEEP."
 
I'd say Sling has the right idea. While the Bible does say you shall not put God to the test, the reality remains that we are testing God when we live in a particular manner and expect Heaven in the end. Why not have God reveal Himself in a manner that actually produces a useful result?

My sons are all in college now. I could use the extra money myself to help pay for their education. Oh, wait! Silly me! Since the love of money is the root of all evil, God wants us poor, right? Unless, of course, you're Joyce Meyer, or Jimmy Swaggart.

So, maybe, God should heal Fowlsound of his cancer? Nope. God wants to draw Fowl closer. Fowl is supposed to suffer incredible pain and misery, so he can realize that God loves him.

Maybe God could bring home some of those people KellyJ is helping to find? Wrong again. Their absence is God's way of punishing people for not loving the missing enough. (Yes, I've heard this argument in church.)

So, I guess Sling's opening line in her last post has the right of it?
 
After reading your post, RT, I felt a bit guilty for not asking KK to pray for Foul or KellyJ, but then I thought that they might not appreciate being part of my experiment without being asked.

Yes, you're quite right that the Babble says we are not to test God. I'm not testing him however: I'm asking him to keep his promises, and I'm using someone who still believes in him to be the vehicle. God likes her. Let's see how he handles her prayer for another. Supposedly, those are the strongest kind of prayers, because they're unselfish.

Analogy: Mom promises, when you are 5, to take you to the zoo. You wait patiently, but you don't go.

After a month, you say "Hey, Mom, didn't you promise to take me to the zoo?"

And Mom says, "Yes, but I can't now. You didn't wait on my will, and you tested me by asking me to keep my promise, so now we'll go when I'm good and ready, or maybe even not at all."

If I were that kid, I'd stop asking my mom to keep any promises, stop believing her when she makes a promise, and start counting the days until I'm 18 and can get away from the crazy witch.

So, let's go. I'm ready, and if I win more than $30,000, I know some folks who could use a bit of cash.
 
I wish you hadn't said that.

I wasn't promised a trip to the zoo. I was promised that my parents would quit smoking.

I lost my dad in 2000.
 
I'm very sorry for saying something that hurt you.
You have my sincerest apologies.

And I'm very sorry you lost your dad.
 
slingblade said:
I'm very sorry for saying something that hurt you.
You have my sincerest apologies.

And I'm very sorry you lost your dad.
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Don't sweat it. They promised to quit smoking, and they didn't. My mom's health is in a constant decline now, though with how she treated me as I grew up, I doubt I'll attend the funeral when it happens. It's just not worth it.
 
Orangutango said:
Funny. It should have been written:

"...Then you will call upon me and come pray to me, and I will listen to you. So please leave your name, home phone number and a brief message describing your prayer, and I will get back to you at my earliest convenience. I am too busy at the moment making images of my son miraculously appear on tree bark and moldy pieces of bread. Should your prayer be in response to an actual emergency, please dial 911. BEEEEEEEEP."
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Actually, I have it on good authority, he's busy working for Ticketmaster.

I was looking for tic's to a college basketball game back in Dec and I got a front row, center court seat. It was probably a season ticket holder who wasn't going to the game and turned in their ticket and I hit it at the right time. The next day at lunch I told some co-workers about the seat and one of them told me that God was watching out for me and gave me that ticket. Isn't he wonderful? Actually after chocking back the urge to spit out my food and start laughing uncontrollably, I told the coworker, a. I don't believe in god and b. If there was a god he should spend the time he used getting me a ticket saving someone over in Iraq. I'll handle my basketball arrangements myself. Well, I will tell you I went to the game and had a great time in my front row-center court seat. Last month I went to another game and ended up in the last row in the upper section on a corner. I suppose the believers of this world will say God punished me for being thankless. Well all I have to say is I had just as great a time sitting in the last row as I did in the front row.

Ok, so maybe not a good authority, maybe not an authority at all.

G
 
GregC said:
Actually, I have it on good authority, he's busy working for Ticketmaster.

I was looking for tic's to a college basketball game back in Dec and I got a front row, center court seat. It was probably a season ticket holder who wasn't going to the game and turned in their ticket and I hit it at the right time. The next day at lunch I told some co-workers about the seat and one of them told me that God was watching out for me and gave me that ticket. Isn't he wonderful? Actually after chocking back the urge to spit out my food and start laughing uncontrollably, I told the coworker, a. I don't believe in god and b. If there was a god he should spend the time he used getting me a ticket saving someone over in Iraq. I'll handle my basketball arrangements myself. Well, I will tell you I went to the game and had a great time in my front row-center court seat. Last month I went to another game and ended up in the last row in the upper section on a corner. I suppose the believers of this world will say God punished me for being thankless. Well all I have to say is I had just as great a time sitting in the last row as I did in the front row.

Ok, so maybe not a good authority, maybe not an authority at all.

G
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I loved your response! You've got moxie, kid!:D

The part I emboldened is a point that I thought about making in my previous post, but decided against it because I didn't want to come across as slamming kk. I may not agree with her beliefs (the understatement of the year), but I think her heart's in the right place.

But since I am now technically responding to your post... heh. heh. heh.

(I must perface my following statement by saying that this is addressed to those who believe that their god does answer prayers & performs miracles).

Any god that can pick and choose on whom will benifit from his divine intervention is by it's very nature a sick and twisted deity. I would love to see anyone (especially god, if he/she/it really existed) justify having him snap his fingers to allow Mrs. Mildred Smith of Boise, Idaho... who had been praying feverously like a good, devout Christian... to win the lottery when in the same breath allow over a hundred thousand people spend their last, few seconds on the face of this earth in abject terror before being wiped away by, oh... take your pick of major disaters: how about the 2005 tsunami. How many prayers that horrific day went unanswered? Oh! Silly me... it must have been because they were too busy screaming and crying in mind-numbing fear to take the time out to drop to their knees and ask for god's intervention. Or maybe it was just "god's will". Take your pick... both explinations are as equally ridiculous.

Is this the sort of god that deserves our worship? How easy it is to give him credit and offer him praise whenever something good happens (such as finding that one coal miner alive in the West Virginia accident), but yet it never seems to be his fault when something bad happens... or when something good fails to happen (such as the other, 12 miner who tragically died in the same accident).

This is not the kind of god that I would want to believe in, if there is a supreme being out there somewhere. At least a god who had put everything in motion before sitting back and watching from afar... never interfering in the lives of his creations... is one that I can at least respect.

And to those that say that us pitiful mortals can never hope to understand their god's plan for us? Of course we can, because "god's" plan is exactly what humanity wants it to be. After all, god was created in man's image....

Orangutango 7:11-24:7

Jen

Boy! That was cathartic! (as in an emotional cleansing, not something that stimulates evacuation of the bowels):blush:
 
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