The Gospel

[Ceritus]

Jesus was a gift. He is the only way to the Father, and it's not looney. Different , but not looney.
You think you know all things? Or does God know all things? There is a voice crying out but how many can hear him? Jesus still lives and yes I know even though my supernatural experience may be different than others,I blieve wholeheartedly. He changed me and my life for the better. I just wish you could know how awesome he is!

There is no literal voice crying out because if there was then it could be tested and the source could be found and if it is indead a voice coming from no physical being or instrument then yes it could be god. The funny thing about christians is that they always speak in metaphors and what not. God revealing himself eh? What exactly does he look like? Jesus is living inside me? or you? Prove it I would like to see this parasite. How awesome is he? Is he awesome because you relate normal occurances and call them the works of god? Or is he just awesome because he has managed to ellude the magifying glass all this time?

 

[sackett]

Let me do my dutch uncle routine, 'kay?

kathy, you say you used to believe in a bunch of New Age and other “psychic” stuff. Then you stopped. But then you at once took up Christianism, a particularly simple-minded variety to judge from what you write. How long do you suppose that belief will last?

Religious excitement grows stale after a while; people get bored and start wanting something different. I predict that your Christianism will stop bubbling pretty soon. It’s rather like a cocaine high: It’s fun for a short time, but then you start to come down. You feel dissatisfied and restless; you want MORE! and go looking for it.

What did you believe in before the psychic stuff?

 

[Piscivore]

Why is the gospel such an offense to people?

Personally? They are poorly written, each often violates their own internal logic, the protagonist is inconsistant and a complete Mary-Sue who lacks any driving character arc, the supporting characters poorly developed and underused, complete lack of sub-plot, the only emotions they seek to invoke are trite, maudlin, and infantile, and they each end with the same pointless Deux Ex Machina.

 

[Anti_Hypeman]

I am offended by being classified as a unclean evil heathen by default. My thoughts are impure and I cannot trust my own judgement only the word of king James uuhhhh I mean god. I am supposed to follow a book of fairytales even if it conflicts with my conscience or rationallity because I cant trust my own disabled malfunctioning brain.

I also resent the fact that blind faith in a diety is considered a admirable trait and I am a closeminded fool for not accepting any of it without evidence.

 

[Tricky]

Why are so many Christians offended when people point out the errors, contradictions, illogic and immorality depicted in the Gospels?

 

[Yahweh]

He changed me and my life for the better. I just wish you could know how awesome he is!

Actually a lot of the people on this board are former Christians, some even of the evangelical variety. So, a lot of us did believe Jesus was as awesome as you say, but not any more.

 

[Palimpsest]

John 3:16

I get offended when simple-minded missionaries try to use this verse to show God's love.

I get offended when they quote chapter and verse as though it meant anything to non-Christians.

I get offended when they assume we've never read this gospel of which you speak.

 

[zakur]

But I just don't understand why peolple feel it's a threat to test their own beliefs against what the bible says?

I do not feel it is a threat at all. I just find it as pointless as testing my beliefs against what Mother Goose and the Brothers Grimm say.

 

[jjramsey]

But I just don't understand why peolple feel it's a threat to test their own beliefs against what the bible says? Nobody should feel it is being crammed down their throat...but why not test our own truths in light of scripture?

Mainly because many have found Scripture to not be a reliable authority. The most obvious place that it isn't reliable is in the creation and flood stories in Genesis, but the reliability of, say, the books of Joshua and Daniel is shaky as well. The New Testament has its issues as well.

Seriously, you had said on another post that you still hear voices. Have you seen a psychiatrist about that? I am not joking about this.

 

[Anti_Hypeman]

Re: Re: The Gospel

I get offended when they quote chapter and verse as though it meant anything to non-Christians.

But thats "the way of the master" it has to work jesus said so. show them the law and they will repent!

 

[Yahweh]

Re: Re: The Gospel

I get offended when they quote chapter and verse as though it meant anything to non-Christians.

I post at ChristianForums.com, and I cannot tell you just how many times I see a post where someones clever answer to a particular question is to recite scripture.

Or the feeling when you talk to JWs who stop by, and they respond to all of your questions by quoting scripture.

Its a very empty feeling, it doesnt even feel like you're being spoken to anymore. In fact, it doesnt even feel like the person you are speaking with is there anymore.

 

[Fengirl]

I don’t find the gospel “an offence”.

I simply find it completely irrelevant to my life.
It offers no truth, no guidance, no insight into the human condition...that isn’t already perfectly accessible through non-religious sources.

The gospel itself is not offensive. What IS offensive is when Christians who are ignorant of other religions, other philosophies, other systems of belief and non-belief maintain that the words of the gospel are somehow “special” or the most appropriate road-map for living a good, moral, loving, intelligent life.

Kurious_kathy, your conviction that you have found some kind of “truth” in your Christian faith is clear to see. (There is no zealot like a convert, as they say!) I doubt you’ll find many on this forum to be easily persuaded of the benefits of religion, though - Christian or otherwise Many here once shared your convictions (myself included)…but now see them for the delusions they are. As for me, the happiest day of my life was the day I finally shed the last shackles of the Christian religion and saw the gospel for what it really is: a mildly interesting piece of historical literature with very little relevance to modern life or modern problems.

I truly hope you find the same happiness, one day.

 

[alfaniner]

All I Need To Know About Life I Learned From Star Trek
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Seek out new life and new civilizations.
Non-interference is the Prime Directive.
Keep your phaser set on stun.
Humans are highly illogical.
There's no such thing as a Vulcan death grip.
Live long and prosper.
Having is not so pleasing a thing as wanting; it is not logical but it is often true.
Infinite diversity in infinite combinations (IDIC).
Tribbles hate Klingons (and Klingons hate Tribbles).
Enemies are often invisible - like Klingons, they can be cloaked.
Don't put all your ranking officers in one shuttle craft.
When your logic fails, trust a hunch.
Insufficient data does not compute.
If it can't be fixed, just ask Scotty.
Even in our own world, sometimes we are aliens.
When going out into the Universe, remember: "Boldly go where no man has gone before!"

(and important lessons from many other sources here at All I Need to Know...

 

[SezMe]

Choosing to live a life of faith is definately a road less traveled.

Oh, puleeze. You really think you are a brave, lonely soul wearing your religion in a hostile world? Right...you and Billions (literally) of other humans in an almost uncountable number of different religions.

Sheeeesh.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Not only do I believe it, but I believe if God had not kept his hand on me I would not have lived through lot's of things in my life! Now I am free and walking in the light

Now here is what I find offensive.. Someone who thinks they are soooooooooooo special, that God has let them live ; while countless others have died.. Many, in unimaginably horrible ways.

 

[Piscivore]

Jesus was a gift.

Can we return him without a recipt? He's a little banged up, but maybe we can still get store credit.

As far as gifts go, that one was like god giving us a bowling ball with his name engraved on it. If it wasn't fiction I'd be miffed.

 

[Lisa Simpson]

Now here is what I find offensive.. Someone who thinks they are soooooooooooo special, that God has let them live ; while countless others have died.. Many, in unimaginably horrible ways.

I didn't take alliterative yet illiterate kurious_kathy's statement of "lived through lot's of things" to mean physically live. I took it to mean emotionally surviving the bad times in life everyone experiences.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Can we return him without a recipt? He's a little banged up, but maybe we can still get store credit.

As far as gifts go, that one was like god giving us a bowling ball with his name engraved on it. If it wasn't fiction I'd be miffed.

No, Jesus is more like a fruitcake. You can't return him. Just toss him in the freezer and then send him to a relative you don't like next year.

 

[Piscivore]

No, Jesus is more like a fruitcake. You can't return him. Just toss him in the freezer and then send him to a relative you don't like next year.

That explains why new Christians are so eager to prostelytise- they're trying to get rid of the 1st century fruitcake someone else stuck them with! They're nothing but a pack of lousy re-gifters! Now I am offended.

 

[kurious_kathy]

I myself turned from my pagan beliefs and God's peace is obvious! I have never known so much inner peace as I have now.
The spirit clearly says in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. I am glad to know the truth now, and feel free from that which was my pagan past. Wish I could tell Ya, but only he can open your eyes. That's what he did for me and many others too!
Have you ever really asked yourself where you want to spend eternity? Hell will not be a party guys!