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you are absolutely right. there's nothing more than that. that's all there is. i must admit in the beginning i was kinda expecting it to be a bit more complicated than that but nope. that's your lot.
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Yep, nothing will be the same from now on.
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Well, cry me a river.
And it has not been recognized now.
Quick? Didn't you claim you have researched this for some years? Surely, you must already have something to present.
Then I suggest you don't even bother.
Not as un-scolarly. Anecdotes are un-scolarly, so of course they will be discounted as such.
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No, Genesis Seal was the brand of pitch they used on the Ark.
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Donn said:
I know it says what it says because I recognise its likeness in too many examples of past literature for the similarity to be the result of random chance. I do say its purpose is akin to 'verification' because it serves in the same role as a modern check-sum that is attached to an electronic message. It contains meta-data that can tell us which parts of the later biblical narratives are most relevant to its strategic purpose.
I could live with the suggestion that the author was a savant scribe, especially is that would allow others to put aside superstition and check it out for themselves for evidence of its effect in their own subject specialisms.
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Kingfisher2926 said:
Pescivore said:
It got overtaken by Hans' random 8x8 matrix, which everyone is happy is a valid way to test the validity of the Genesis Seal. I am happy to go along with that.
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How about the suggestion that the words you see in the grid are just a coincidence? Could you live with that?
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Let me make an easy comparison with the 8x8 random square that Hans has offered as a comparator with the Genesis Seal. Both Hans and others have pointed to quite a lot of emergent content; it has been shown that some of those words can be related because they easily fit together in a literary composition.
One difference of the Genesis Seal is that its emergent content includes:
- Repetitions of the same words
- Distinctive structural combinations of words that are directly related (eg light with darkness).
- Persistence of structure in exactly the same concise zones in a developing sequence of views of the Seal.
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There is now only one square view of the Genesis Seal that has not yet been aired in this thread. It is the G4 view, which differs from G3 in just one tiny detail, though the consequences are well-worth seeing. In Figure 12, the letter ayin that started out as the 49th letter of the Torah has been reinstated there, in the left-hand end of the horizontal diagonal. It will be seen, however, that the ayin at the centre of the square, prefixed to the start of Genesis 1:1 is still present. This being the last and final product of the Genesis Seal, the presence of two copies of ayin seems to correspond to Genesis 1:27, where Man is created in God’s own image. This interpretation is in keeping with the way the Genesis Seal portends important later narratives throughout the Bible, and the fact that the Bible is intended as a teaching device in the development of Man. It implies that Genesis Chapter 1 is in the nature of a project plan that is enacted, or implemented throughout relevant parts of the complete Bible.
When adding the extra letter ayin, all the resulting activity, the shuffling along of subsequent letters, takes place in the two upper sides of the perimeter. This affects two, localised parts of the square that now reveal a new purpose, over and above what was seen in the G3 Square.
In the far right corner, I have highlighted two, 3-letter emergent words that cross through one-another. This is a concise part of the square that has, in all previous views, already shown a marked degree of persistence in revealing closely-related content. In this G4 Square, the same concept of a Principle of Reserved Locations reaches its climactic conclusion. It is only necessary to compare this part of the G4 Square with the G1 equivalent to see that it is depicting an earthly counterpart for the pre-creation version shown by G1. In Figure 12, the new vertical word is chayah (life, or a living creature), which corresponds to the emergent, descending ‘light’ in G1. Likewise, in G4 the horizontal ayil (a ram) is the counterpart of the word for ‘thick darkness’ that occupied the exact same location in G1. The correspondence between ‘light’ and ‘life’ is perhaps easier to see than that between ‘thick darkness’ and ‘a ram’. The explanation can only be that a mortal, flesh-and-blood body is the antithesis of the special kind of life that is in store for Man. In a strange way, this is borne out by the headline Y-shape in the G1 Square, consisting of five copies of the letter vav. In the numerical view of that Square, the stem of that figure is revealed to be a linear 666 group. And in the present view there is a (presently disguised) 616 crossing through this position, as was shown by Figure 11 in my post #492. It is significant that 616 and 666 were mutual alternatives for the so-called ‘number of the beast’ in early copies of Revelation 13:18. Clearly, to the author of that book the now-infamous number 666 stood for the physical body (the beast), and the complete Y-shape was the depiction of a man being crucified. In fact, in the G1 Square, there is a vertically ascending, second emergent copy of the word for ‘light’ firmly attached to the stem of the Y. And that is as effective a symbol as any for a righteous man (Messiah) who is exchanging his garment of flesh for a new garment of light. In my post #289, I showed how the transformed Y, having become a meandering Lamed River is a perfect inspiration for the Jewish legend of the Tzaddiqim (the 36 Righteous Ones), the colloquially named Lamed Vavniks, any one of whom would be worthy to become a messiah.
These observations, and most that follow, offer a new perspective on the way certain aspects of history have come to be recorded. This is particularly true of the Christian New Testament, a suggestion that will not be to the liking of the Established Church. We are by no means finished with the role of the Messiah, or the Lamed River. For now, though, I want to move on to explain the other highlighted 3x3 group in Figure 12.
To set the scene, I must refer to two similar, out-of-body visions experienced by the prophet Ezekiel and the author of Revelation (the Apocalypse), let’s call him John the Divine. The two authors both describe having seen living creatures either in heaven or closely associated with the chariot-throne of God. Significantly, the English term ‘living creatures’ is a not very convincing translation of the plural of chayah that is now seen in the far right corner of the G4 Square. For Ezekiel, each chayah had four faces, which are those of an ox, a lion, an eagle and a man. In the case of John the Divine, there were four separate living creatures, each with a different one of the same four faces described by Ezekiel. We do not have to look far to find what is normally taken to be Ezekiel’s inspiration. Once we recognise that an eagle was, to the Jews, the same that the Babylonians knew as Scorpio, it is clear that the four faces belong to constellations of the Zodiac, spaced at regular three-monthly intervals. That may seem like a perfect and complete explanation for the faces of those living creatures. Yet a complementary and more fundamental explanation is possible.
In Figure 12, in the text that constitutes the upper-left side of the G4 Square perimeter, there is a particular word that sits within the partitioned 3x3 group. This word is p’nei, meaning ‘a face’, no less, of which each letter is the origin of one or more of Ezekiel’s living creatures. To start with, the initial letter peh of that face is the start of the word par (an ox - Taurus). The middle letter of the face is a nun; and this is the start of the word netz (an eagle - Scorpio). Finally, the letter yud is simultaneously the first and last letter of the two remaining living creatures. One of them is the ascending word ariy (a lion - Leo). The other is the reverse spelling: the versatile yara, which can mean ‘to flow’, ‘to point (out)’, ‘to shoot’ (like an arrow) and ‘an archer’. It is the first of those definitions that points to the constellation of Aquarius (the Water Carrier), which is the only sign of the Zodiac that equates to a mortal human character, hence the face of a man.
It is no doubt quite significant that Ezekiel was writing during the period of the Babylonian Exile. As I said earlier, it is common for interpretations of Ezekiel’s writing to assume that he was merely reflecting his knowledge and experience of Babylonian Astrology. However, that does not begin to account for the presence of those four zodiacal signs within the Genesis Seal. That is, unless Ezekiel was the one responsible for the reverse process, and was the author (or an editor) of this part of Genesis. If I had to nominate a human agent to have been responsible for the Genesis Seal, Ezekiel would be right at the top of my list of suspects. On the other hand, I still lean towards the Genesis Seal having been responsible, even earlier than that, for the Babylonians’ choice of signs to represent the 12 houses of their Zodiac. That would also be in keeping with the likelihood that the Genesis Seal was already known to other cultures before the Jews ever came on the scene. In other words, knowledge of the Hebrew creation account did not enter the world through either Abraham or Moses.
Evidence that the Genesis Seal had informed the Babylonians in their development of Astrology goes well beyond the presence of Ezekiel’s four living creatures. In my hypothesis, I take as an axiom the fact that the G4 view of the Genesis Seal reveals another five constellations of their Zodiac. Figure 13 has all the relevant detail.
First, the vertical word yara (the reverse of Leo) represents Sagittarius, in its additional meaning: an archer.
In the far right corner, we have already seen the horizontal word ayil (a ram), giving us the sign of Aries.
Nearer the middle of the square, there is a T-shaped construct of two juxtaposed words, both of which are of the plain source text, but must be read in reverse. One is tayish, which is ‘a he-goat’ (Capricorn). This comes from the second half of the Torah’s very first word. The other part of the T-shape is a t’awm (twin), which confers the sign of Gemini.
Yet another zodiacal sign to be present in Figure 13 is that of Pisces. This is represented by two identical words that cross through one-another in the manner of the Christian Ichthys symbol that is derived from the shape of the vesica piscis. The word in question is arba (four), such that there are three copies of this word in the G3/G4 squares, all converging onto the same letter ayin that is prefixed to the regular text. These three fours serve to fix Pisces as the 12th Sign of the Zodiac, the first being Aries which is now positioned in the G4 Square precisely where G1 had its point of origin.
It is relevant that the vertically descending word yara (to flow), which I identified earlier as Aquarius, actually terminates in a distinctive Y-shaped group of the letter aleph. This Y is the real Water Carrier, rather than the flowing water that he bears.
Three signs of the Zodiac have not been identified here. One is Virgo, who is represented by the persistent presence of rechem (a womb, or maiden) seen in both the G2 and G3 squares. Another is Libra, which is implicit in many examples of bi-lateral symmetry that are continually emphasised by emergent artefacts. Up to press, I have not been able to identify anything to represent the sign of Cancer.
It is an important observation regarding the Babylonians’ attachment to Astrology that they saw it, at least in part, as a source of information from heaven in matters of their destiny.
The Jews’ own take on teaching and learning coming both from above and below is very clearly represented in the G4 Square, though I would argue that a Christian extension to the story is indispensable. The story begins with the versatile downward-flowing word yara, which can mean ‘to point out’. The same word also has the honour to be the root for the word Torah, which is both Law and Instruction. And this goes right to the heart of the chief purpose of the Genesis Seal.
The Genesis Seal is a function of the very first few words of the Torah, introducing a creation account that sums up a strategic purpose: to make Man to become the image of his creator. The Torah (as widely understood) is a book of instruction couched in a mixture of covenant and allegory (in which I include those parts of the Old Testament that purport to be real history). But in Judaism, another kind of Torah is recognised as ‘Torah from Heaven’, complementing the teaching that comes from below. Now let’s see how, over and above the Babylonians’ interpretation, these same ideas are represented in the Genesis Seal.
My new aim is to show conceptual links between the story of Adam and Eve’s expulsion from Paradise, and a reversal of that path accomplished by the Messiah who became the Christ of an early form of Christianity. While the same comparison has been made by others, in various ways, as with the connection between Ezekiel and the Babylonian Zodiac, the relationship becomes graphically more vivid when the Genesis Seal is interposed.
Let me start by pointing to the striking similarity between the large Y-shape that was seen in the G1 Square and the smaller one now seen high up in G4. These undoubtedly mark the opposite ends of the path I mentioned. The path is seen in Figure 14 as a feint echo of the Lamed River of the G2 Square. The new upper Y is firmly rooted in a position that was once occupied by two upper elements of the river. Therefore, the same upper Y can be understood as a simplified image of the Tree of Knowledge (of good and evil) where the whole story began. We have already seen that the central element of this Y is the destination of yara – the teaching (as Torah) that comes from above. However, this same Tree of Knowledge is also the destination of a great teaching that comes from below. And that side of the story begins in the larger, lower Y-shape of the G1 Square that is undoubtedly the Tree of Life. One way we may know it to be the Tree of Life is that when its components becomes adapted into the Lamed River in the G2 Square, the letters of the horizontal word cherev (a sword) come together, placed squarely across the place where the stem of the Y-shape had been, just as Genesis 3:24 describes.
It is implicit in what I have just written that the Messiah-Christ is the essence of the Tree of Knowledge and the embodiment the Tree of Life. It is especially noteworthy that the two lower elements of the upper Tree of Knowledge are also the origins of the same two copies of arba (four) that constitute the Ichthys sign of Christ. This Christ is both fish and angler, even as he is also known as both Lamb and the Good Shepherd. I shall come to this proposition next, after I point out that the meandering Lamed River of G2 (echoed in Figure 14) passed in two stages between the letters of rechem (a womb) in their distinctive V-formation. This is prime candidate to have been the inspiration for the (not exclusively Christian) suggestion that to be ‘born again’ is a necessary step towards enlightenment (or salvation).
Now to the matter of the Messiah-Christ being both Lamb and Good Shepherd. Here, Figure 14 reveals one emergent feature corresponding to each of those concepts. First, I named the Lamed River for its shape, since it resembles the letter lamed of the Hebrew Square Script that has been in use since around the period of the Babylonian Exile. In the earlier, archaic Hebrew script, the letter lamed was held to be symbolic of a shepherd’s whole crook. In the later square script, a lamed came to resemble only the stylised head of a crook. In fact, the name of the letter lamed is spelled the same as other words that mean ‘to teach’ and ‘to learn’, which reflects the use of a crook to keep a flock in check, like training.
The alternative description of the ascended man, as a Lamb, is reflected in the biblical notion that when the Messiah comes, the Lamb and the lion will be seen to lay down together. In the G4 Square, the Lamb is the essence of the small, upper Y-shape that overlays an emergent ariy (a lion).
Without a doubt, the central element of the small, upper Y – the Tree of Knowledge – is the focal point of instruction and learning that ‘flow’ simultaneously from above and below. Once that position has been achieved, the reversal of the Fall from Paradise is accomplished. The crucified man was the great pioneer in this enterprise, and now stands ready to help all the smaller fish that make the effort to follow his example.
This is not a statement of faith, but a description of the Genesis Seal showing how it mirrors things that became recorded in scripture and history.
When adding the extra letter ayin, all the resulting activity, the shuffling along of subsequent letters, takes place in the two upper sides of the perimeter. This affects two, localised parts of the square that now reveal a new purpose, over and above what was seen in the G3 Square.
In the far right corner, I have highlighted two, 3-letter emergent words that cross through one-another. This is a concise part of the square that has, in all previous views, already shown a marked degree of persistence in revealing closely-related content. In this G4 Square, the same concept of a Principle of Reserved Locations reaches its climactic conclusion. It is only necessary to compare this part of the G4 Square with the G1 equivalent to see that it is depicting an earthly counterpart for the pre-creation version shown by G1. In Figure 12, the new vertical word is chayah (life, or a living creature), which corresponds to the emergent, descending ‘light’ in G1. Likewise, in G4 the horizontal ayil (a ram) is the counterpart of the word for ‘thick darkness’ that occupied the exact same location in G1. The correspondence between ‘light’ and ‘life’ is perhaps easier to see than that between ‘thick darkness’ and ‘a ram’. The explanation can only be that a mortal, flesh-and-blood body is the antithesis of the special kind of life that is in store for Man. In a strange way, this is borne out by the headline Y-shape in the G1 Square, consisting of five copies of the letter vav. In the numerical view of that Square, the stem of that figure is revealed to be a linear 666 group. And in the present view there is a (presently disguised) 616 crossing through this position, as was shown by Figure 11 in my post #492. It is significant that 616 and 666 were mutual alternatives for the so-called ‘number of the beast’ in early copies of Revelation 13:18. Clearly, to the author of that book the now-infamous number 666 stood for the physical body (the beast), and the complete Y-shape was the depiction of a man being crucified. In fact, in the G1 Square, there is a vertically ascending, second emergent copy of the word for ‘light’ firmly attached to the stem of the Y. And that is as effective a symbol as any for a righteous man (Messiah) who is exchanging his garment of flesh for a new garment of light. In my post #289, I showed how the transformed Y, having become a meandering Lamed River is a perfect inspiration for the Jewish legend of the Tzaddiqim (the 36 Righteous Ones), the colloquially named Lamed Vavniks, any one of whom would be worthy to become a messiah.
These observations, and most that follow, offer a new perspective on the way certain aspects of history have come to be recorded. This is particularly true of the Christian New Testament, a suggestion that will not be to the liking of the Established Church. We are by no means finished with the role of the Messiah, or the Lamed River. For now, though, I want to move on to explain the other highlighted 3x3 group in Figure 12.
To set the scene, I must refer to two similar, out-of-body visions experienced by the prophet Ezekiel and the author of Revelation (the Apocalypse), let’s call him John the Divine. The two authors both describe having seen living creatures either in heaven or closely associated with the chariot-throne of God. Significantly, the English term ‘living creatures’ is a not very convincing translation of the plural of chayah that is now seen in the far right corner of the G4 Square. For Ezekiel, each chayah had four faces, which are those of an ox, a lion, an eagle and a man. In the case of John the Divine, there were four separate living creatures, each with a different one of the same four faces described by Ezekiel. We do not have to look far to find what is normally taken to be Ezekiel’s inspiration. Once we recognise that an eagle was, to the Jews, the same that the Babylonians knew as Scorpio, it is clear that the four faces belong to constellations of the Zodiac, spaced at regular three-monthly intervals. That may seem like a perfect and complete explanation for the faces of those living creatures. Yet a complementary and more fundamental explanation is possible.
In Figure 12, in the text that constitutes the upper-left side of the G4 Square perimeter, there is a particular word that sits within the partitioned 3x3 group. This word is p’nei, meaning ‘a face’, no less, of which each letter is the origin of one or more of Ezekiel’s living creatures. To start with, the initial letter peh of that face is the start of the word par (an ox - Taurus). The middle letter of the face is a nun; and this is the start of the word netz (an eagle - Scorpio). Finally, the letter yud is simultaneously the first and last letter of the two remaining living creatures. One of them is the ascending word ariy (a lion - Leo). The other is the reverse spelling: the versatile yara, which can mean ‘to flow’, ‘to point (out)’, ‘to shoot’ (like an arrow) and ‘an archer’. It is the first of those definitions that points to the constellation of Aquarius (the Water Carrier), which is the only sign of the Zodiac that equates to a mortal human character, hence the face of a man.
It is no doubt quite significant that Ezekiel was writing during the period of the Babylonian Exile. As I said earlier, it is common for interpretations of Ezekiel’s writing to assume that he was merely reflecting his knowledge and experience of Babylonian Astrology. However, that does not begin to account for the presence of those four zodiacal signs within the Genesis Seal. That is, unless Ezekiel was the one responsible for the reverse process, and was the author (or an editor) of this part of Genesis. If I had to nominate a human agent to have been responsible for the Genesis Seal, Ezekiel would be right at the top of my list of suspects. On the other hand, I still lean towards the Genesis Seal having been responsible, even earlier than that, for the Babylonians’ choice of signs to represent the 12 houses of their Zodiac. That would also be in keeping with the likelihood that the Genesis Seal was already known to other cultures before the Jews ever came on the scene. In other words, knowledge of the Hebrew creation account did not enter the world through either Abraham or Moses.
Evidence that the Genesis Seal had informed the Babylonians in their development of Astrology goes well beyond the presence of Ezekiel’s four living creatures. In my hypothesis, I take as an axiom the fact that the G4 view of the Genesis Seal reveals another five constellations of their Zodiac. Figure 13 has all the relevant detail.
First, the vertical word yara (the reverse of Leo) represents Sagittarius, in its additional meaning: an archer.
In the far right corner, we have already seen the horizontal word ayil (a ram), giving us the sign of Aries.
Nearer the middle of the square, there is a T-shaped construct of two juxtaposed words, both of which are of the plain source text, but must be read in reverse. One is tayish, which is ‘a he-goat’ (Capricorn). This comes from the second half of the Torah’s very first word. The other part of the T-shape is a t’awm (twin), which confers the sign of Gemini.
Yet another zodiacal sign to be present in Figure 13 is that of Pisces. This is represented by two identical words that cross through one-another in the manner of the Christian Ichthys symbol that is derived from the shape of the vesica piscis. The word in question is arba (four), such that there are three copies of this word in the G3/G4 squares, all converging onto the same letter ayin that is prefixed to the regular text. These three fours serve to fix Pisces as the 12th Sign of the Zodiac, the first being Aries which is now positioned in the G4 Square precisely where G1 had its point of origin.
It is relevant that the vertically descending word yara (to flow), which I identified earlier as Aquarius, actually terminates in a distinctive Y-shaped group of the letter aleph. This Y is the real Water Carrier, rather than the flowing water that he bears.
Three signs of the Zodiac have not been identified here. One is Virgo, who is represented by the persistent presence of rechem (a womb, or maiden) seen in both the G2 and G3 squares. Another is Libra, which is implicit in many examples of bi-lateral symmetry that are continually emphasised by emergent artefacts. Up to press, I have not been able to identify anything to represent the sign of Cancer.
It is an important observation regarding the Babylonians’ attachment to Astrology that they saw it, at least in part, as a source of information from heaven in matters of their destiny.
The Jews’ own take on teaching and learning coming both from above and below is very clearly represented in the G4 Square, though I would argue that a Christian extension to the story is indispensable. The story begins with the versatile downward-flowing word yara, which can mean ‘to point out’. The same word also has the honour to be the root for the word Torah, which is both Law and Instruction. And this goes right to the heart of the chief purpose of the Genesis Seal.
The Genesis Seal is a function of the very first few words of the Torah, introducing a creation account that sums up a strategic purpose: to make Man to become the image of his creator. The Torah (as widely understood) is a book of instruction couched in a mixture of covenant and allegory (in which I include those parts of the Old Testament that purport to be real history). But in Judaism, another kind of Torah is recognised as ‘Torah from Heaven’, complementing the teaching that comes from below. Now let’s see how, over and above the Babylonians’ interpretation, these same ideas are represented in the Genesis Seal.
My new aim is to show conceptual links between the story of Adam and Eve’s expulsion from Paradise, and a reversal of that path accomplished by the Messiah who became the Christ of an early form of Christianity. While the same comparison has been made by others, in various ways, as with the connection between Ezekiel and the Babylonian Zodiac, the relationship becomes graphically more vivid when the Genesis Seal is interposed.
Let me start by pointing to the striking similarity between the large Y-shape that was seen in the G1 Square and the smaller one now seen high up in G4. These undoubtedly mark the opposite ends of the path I mentioned. The path is seen in Figure 14 as a feint echo of the Lamed River of the G2 Square. The new upper Y is firmly rooted in a position that was once occupied by two upper elements of the river. Therefore, the same upper Y can be understood as a simplified image of the Tree of Knowledge (of good and evil) where the whole story began. We have already seen that the central element of this Y is the destination of yara – the teaching (as Torah) that comes from above. However, this same Tree of Knowledge is also the destination of a great teaching that comes from below. And that side of the story begins in the larger, lower Y-shape of the G1 Square that is undoubtedly the Tree of Life. One way we may know it to be the Tree of Life is that when its components becomes adapted into the Lamed River in the G2 Square, the letters of the horizontal word cherev (a sword) come together, placed squarely across the place where the stem of the Y-shape had been, just as Genesis 3:24 describes.
It is implicit in what I have just written that the Messiah-Christ is the essence of the Tree of Knowledge and the embodiment the Tree of Life. It is especially noteworthy that the two lower elements of the upper Tree of Knowledge are also the origins of the same two copies of arba (four) that constitute the Ichthys sign of Christ. This Christ is both fish and angler, even as he is also known as both Lamb and the Good Shepherd. I shall come to this proposition next, after I point out that the meandering Lamed River of G2 (echoed in Figure 14) passed in two stages between the letters of rechem (a womb) in their distinctive V-formation. This is prime candidate to have been the inspiration for the (not exclusively Christian) suggestion that to be ‘born again’ is a necessary step towards enlightenment (or salvation).
Now to the matter of the Messiah-Christ being both Lamb and Good Shepherd. Here, Figure 14 reveals one emergent feature corresponding to each of those concepts. First, I named the Lamed River for its shape, since it resembles the letter lamed of the Hebrew Square Script that has been in use since around the period of the Babylonian Exile. In the earlier, archaic Hebrew script, the letter lamed was held to be symbolic of a shepherd’s whole crook. In the later square script, a lamed came to resemble only the stylised head of a crook. In fact, the name of the letter lamed is spelled the same as other words that mean ‘to teach’ and ‘to learn’, which reflects the use of a crook to keep a flock in check, like training.
The alternative description of the ascended man, as a Lamb, is reflected in the biblical notion that when the Messiah comes, the Lamb and the lion will be seen to lay down together. In the G4 Square, the Lamb is the essence of the small, upper Y-shape that overlays an emergent ariy (a lion).
Without a doubt, the central element of the small, upper Y – the Tree of Knowledge – is the focal point of instruction and learning that ‘flow’ simultaneously from above and below. Once that position has been achieved, the reversal of the Fall from Paradise is accomplished. The crucified man was the great pioneer in this enterprise, and now stands ready to help all the smaller fish that make the effort to follow his example.
This is not a statement of faith, but a description of the Genesis Seal showing how it mirrors things that became recorded in scripture and history.
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So, if someone gave you an 8x8 square created using your rules you could tell the difference between one that was made off of a page from the Torah and one which was made from a Hebrew translation of War and Peace? Could you even figure out which page of the Torah it was created from? Of course I am assuming that the letters are jumbled enough that you could not simply read it out, is this correct?
The problem I am having is figuring out how you determine what is and is not significant. Do you have a failure criteria? Or do you simply change the patterns you are following until you get a result you like?
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Nice magical square there dafydd.
So....
Basically Kingfisher is just going to keep on posting his genesis seal material, despite any evidence that it's just pointless nonsense?
Let's see what that hints at...
I don't know if anyone here is an actual psychiatrist but I think it's at the point where further efforts by the untrained (ie myself at the very least), are pointless.
So....
Basically Kingfisher is just going to keep on posting his genesis seal material, despite any evidence that it's just pointless nonsense?
Let's see what that hints at...
I don't know if anyone here is an actual psychiatrist but I think it's at the point where further efforts by the untrained (ie myself at the very least), are pointless.
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It took me a while to twig one of the criticisms of my assertion. That was the one where I must have 'tried hundreds of options until I found one that I liked'. In reality, I got started on the basis of only two, which are still the foundation of everything else. That sort of scuppers the confirmation bias argument, don't you think?
I like your comment about telling the difference between one that was made off of a page from the Torah and one which was made from a Hebrew translation of War and Peace. My response has to be that if I placed the Genesis Seal before a practiced reader of Hebrew with no explanation, he/she would have no difficulty recognising what it is, because the text of Genesis 1:1-2 used in the Seal retains its original order.