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The Genesis Seal

Kingfisher2926, have you done the same with harry potter or other books?
 
the PC apeman said:
It would be more interesting if those effects were somehow predicted and then verified. Going the other way 'round reeks of the sharpshooter fallacyWP.
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I can only suggest that familiar standards of assessment may be useless in this case, both for positive and negative purposes. Consider the Vitruvian Man by Leonardo Da Vinci. Would anyone think it is anything but a work of artistic creation? Or if you saw a properly completed crossword. Would you think the letter-entries got there by chance?
Assessment of The Genesis Seal may call for a method that hasn't yet been invented.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
I can only suggest that familiar standards of assessment may be useless in this case, both for positive and negative purposes. Consider the Vitruvian Man by Leonardo Da Vinci. Would anyone think it is anything but a work of artistic creation? Or if you saw a properly completed crossword. Would you think the letter-entries got there by chance?
Assessment of The Genesis Seal may call for a method that hasn't yet been invented.
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If or when that happens, that would be an interesting thread. Until then you just have clouds that look like bunnies.
 
DC said:
i don't get it, what do you want to demonstrate with this number and letters game? is it a game? or what is it?
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I am glad you are troubled by this phenomenon, no doubt more than you have been troubled by anything else you may have encountered in the JREF furums. Isn't this what one might expect from a biblical phenomenon that appears to exceed the wit of any conceivable human intellect?
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
I am glad you are troubled by this phenomenon, no doubt more than you have been troubled by anything else you may have encountered in the JREF furums. Isn't this what one might expect from a biblical phenomenon that appears to exceed the wit of any conceivable human intellect?
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How is this different from the 'bible codes'?
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
I am glad you are troubled by this phenomenon, no doubt more than you have been troubled by anything else you may have encountered in the JREF furums. Isn't this what one might expect from a biblical phenomenon that appears to exceed the wit of any conceivable human intellect?
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Thanks for coming out of that scripture closet.



Nothing you wrote in your post relates in any way to what DC said. Not one word.
 
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Kingfisher2926 said:
I am glad you are troubled by this phenomenon, no doubt more than you have been troubled by anything else you may have encountered in the JREF furums. Isn't this what one might expect from a biblical phenomenon that appears to exceed the wit of any conceivable human intellect?
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except your wit offcourse :)

i see no pehnomenon and surely not a biblical one. I still don't get your point. do you think the inventors of the thora did hide this in the thora? or is it some sort of magic or what do you belief it to be?
 
Rasmus said:
Bible Code in a new fancy dress.
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Hardly. Everything that emerges in the Genesis Seal comes from a mere 64 letters. The downfall of the Bible Code (let's not mention it again) was the vast extent of the text it purported to 'analyse'.
 
Spindrift said:
At what length is a portion of text susceptible to changes?
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How long is a piece of string? The shorter the text, the less likely it is to have become mutated. The fact that the first(!) 64 Hebrew letters of Genesis demonstrate the sort of effects I have shown only a sample of, speaks volumes for its integrity.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
Hardly. Everything that emerges in the Genesis Seal comes from a mere 64 letters. The downfall of the Bible Code (let's not mention it again) was the vast extent of the text it purported to 'analyse'.
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Everything in the bible code comes from a more mere 26 letters.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
Sorry David, I forgot the point about the probabilities.
I have calculated these myself using very simple principles. For example, it wouldn't matter where the first letter vav may occur. Then there is a 1/2 chance that the second one will be in the same half of the grid as the first; then a 1/4 chance that both the second and third vav are in the same half; a 1/8 chance that the second, third and fourth vav... you get the idea.
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The highlighted point is actually not true. Since you're counting the diagonals as being part of both halves rather than neither half, the truth is that for most squares on the board, more than 7/8 of the rest of the board shares a "half" with it in some orientation. And depending on how close together the first two are, again there is likely a probability higher than 1/4 that the next square shares a "half" with the first two squares.

I think the real question is, "Assuming I'm willing to mess around with a string of text until I find some interesting patterns, how likely am I to find patterns just as good as these?"

And the answer is, "very likely".
 
You know what would be useful for someone who has more time than I do right now?

Put the first 64 (or 32, or whatever) characters of the OP in a grid and find some patterns just as "notable" as these. I wonder if the OP will then agree he deliberately included a hidden message?
 
DC said:
doubtfull, he said fellow sceptics, so im pretty sure he doesn't deal in such nonsense and if only for fun, that's mayb why he presents this game to us.
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DC, I appreciate your candour. What I am showing you all today is the result of several years analysis on my part.
 
DC said:
what would that answer be mister mysterious?
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That's the easiest question of all to answer. The Genesis Seal is the result of some very nifty design by someone in the dim and distant past. Perhaps it was just someone with an exceptional savant talent. Perhaps it was Ezekiel - Who knows?
 
So, the big thing is what emerges from those 64 letters? If anything else had emerged, then that would have been it. No?

What emerged is what emerged, you found some patterns ergo God?

What patterns would falsify the idea?
 
AvalonXQ said:
You know what would be useful for someone who has more time than I do right now?

Put the first 64 (or 32, or whatever) characters of the OP in a grid and find some patterns just as "notable" as these. I wonder if the OP will then agree he deliberately included a hidden message?
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Here's "Catch 22":
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I notice the word "Salt" jumping right out at me, which is significant because the story occurs on a Mediterranian island, which is course surrounded by salt water, and "Lots", which allude to the shares of the Company Milo sold.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
That's the easiest question of all to answer. The Genesis Seal is the result of some very nifty design by someone in the dim and distant past. Perhaps it was just someone with an exceptional savant talent. Perhaps it was Ezekiel - Who knows?
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doesnt need much talent, and not very impressive if that is the work of a "allmighty" has he nothing better to do? flooding planets and making patterns in a text he never wrote?
 
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