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The fifth plane Flight 23

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MaGZ said:
The missile hit to WTC 7 in my opinion did not cause the collapse of the building, instead it was a controlled demolition.
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Would you do us all a favor and state for the record wether you are a MIHOPper or not?

It's hard for us to address your beliefs when even you don't appear to be certain what they are.
 
MaGZ said:
A few fine points. I think the pilots in the F-15s from Otis did have permission to shoot down flight 175 but were a bit too late. The missile hit to WTC 7 in my opinion did not cause the collapse of the building, instead it was a controlled demolition. A special national security team brought it down because it was leaning and might have interfered with the rescue efforts at Ground Zero.
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And the reason they had to cover this up was................

Don't stop now your on a roll.
 
Paul Thompson's "9/11 Timeline" mentioned UA Flight 23 as
well. I'll take a look if there are follow-up stories about this
after the initial reports:

(After 9:00 a.m.) September 11, 2001: United Flight 23 Hijacking Possibly Averted


Shortly after 9:00 a.m., United Airlines Flight 23 receives a warning message from flight dispatcher Ed Ballinger. Flight 23 is still on a runway at JFK airport in New York, about to take off for Los Angeles. Apparently in response to Ballinger’s message, the crew tells the passengers there has been a mechanical problem and returns to the departure gate. A number of Middle Eastern men (one account says three, others say six) argue with the flight crew and refuse to get off the plane. Security is called, but they flee before it arrives. [CBS News, 9/14/2001; Chicago Daily Herald, 4/14/2004] Later, authorities check their luggage and find copies of the Koran and al-Qaeda instruction sheets. Ballinger suspects they got away. “When all we have is a photo from a fake ID, the chances of finding [someone] in Afghanistan or Pakistan are rather slim.” [Chicago Daily Herald, 4/14/2004] A NORAD deputy commander later says, “From our perception, we think our reaction on that day was sufficiently quick that we may well have precluded at least one other hijacking. We may not have. We don’t know for sure.” [Globe and Mail, 6/13/2002]


Source:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/...hijackingaverted&scale=0#a900hijackingaverted
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MaGZ said:
A special national security team brought it down because it was leaning and might have interfered with the rescue efforts at Ground Zero.
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Do you have any idea how long it takes to demolish a building? And how the hell to you set it up for demolition WHILE IT'S ON FIRE?
 
MaGZ said:
A few fine points. I think the pilots in the F-15s from Otis did have permission to shoot down flight 175 but were a bit too late. The missile hit to WTC 7 in my opinion did not cause the collapse of the building, instead it was a controlled demolition. A special national security team brought it down because it was leaning and might have interfered with the rescue efforts at Ground Zero.
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Will you please diagram the path a missle would take to hit the lower floors of WTC7? Wouldn't it need to go around a number of other buildings?
 
I agree that this was more than likely a panic-induced bit of (albeit understandable) racism. See also this story - though that was actually initiated by some Asian teenagers who thought it would be funny to scare the (mostly white) passengers by talking about hijacking. (I wouldn't normally use The Mail as a reference but it was reported elsewhere at the time.)
 
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