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The female body in Muslim countries

Zelenius

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As part of a research project, I'm curious to know how Muslim women see their bodies compared with western women, and compared with non-Muslim minorities living in Muslim countries. How, in particular, has Islamic fundamentalism influenced the way women see themselves, especially when it comes to their bodies?

I'm particularly interested in Iran, and if the Islamic revolution of 1979 greatly altered the way women saw themselves after the revolution due to strict Sharia law. Tehran, Iran is considered to be the nose-job capital of the world, but why is this? Is it a result of the Islamic revolution and an obsession with the face since women have to hide their curves? Many young Iranian women in Iran are getting tattoos from underground tattoo parlors, and it even seems anorexia and drug use is on the rise. How does Sharia influence the way they dress both outside(obviously it does) and at home(less obvious)? Is there a correlation between how religious a woman is and her body image? How are Iranian Muslim women or Iranian women regardless of religion, different from Arab Muslims when it comes to body image, if at all? How do women use their bodies, clothing, make up, or body art to rebel in these countries where they are forced by law to hide themselves?

Information about women in Afghanistan under the Taliban would be useful as well. Also of interest is why the Muslim world in general seems to be so obsessed with hiding women, especially in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, parts of Pakistan, and I even see women in full black burqas in the Muslim parts of town here in New York City. Although this may only be a recent phenomenon, why, in contrast, is it socially acceptable for women to show off their bodies in Mediterranean and Latin American countries? Obviously, patriarchal values are thought to be behind Islamic sharia laws(which also apply to men, for instance, men can't wear short-sleeved shirts in Saudi Arabia and I think Iran). But how did patriarchal values lead to strict Sharia in the Muslim world, and much more openness in the Latin world? We would like to explore attitudes in regard to rape in Muslim society. Also, how are sharia and female genital mutilation interrelated, and what does this procedure say about womens attitudes? Although it predates Islam, female genital mutilation is very common in many African and Middle Eastern Muslim countries.

The confusing history of how the Muslims developed hijab/sharia might help(I've read that even the early Anglo-Saxons had something like sharia, but it died out). I'd be interested in hearing from Iranians, current and ex-Muslims especially, or anyone who has a good understanding of feminist theory or womens studies when it comes to Muslim countries. Any facts you can share, studies, personal observations or experiences, unique perspectives, anecdotes or opinions are welcome. Share whatever you want that you think might help. I'm not easily offended or a prude, and I'm an atheist. It's a large project and this is just part of it, sorry if this seems vague or confusing, thank you. If you want to send anything in private, go ahead.

This seems to be a decent start: http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2004/apr/22/islam.religion
 
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Zelenius, interesting topic, do you have any contact details you'd be happy to share in public? If so I can post a request for participants on Skepchick. An email address would do, possibly set up a googlemail one specially so you don't get spam to your regular one?
 
I can't help but wonder if muslim women aren't full of themselves, since the culture is spread that their bodies seed evil in the minds of men and cause them to be unable to resist themself.

I can resist naked women pretty well, so either their attractiveness is strong, or their men's self control isn't.
 
I can't help but wonder if muslim women aren't full of themselves, since the culture is spread that their bodies seed evil in the minds of men and cause them to be unable to resist themself.

I can resist naked women pretty well, so either their attractiveness is strong, or their men's self control isn't.
So, are you safe? Or just argumentative?
 
Not sure if this will help but sometime before I joined JREF I found this blog post reporting on a Muslim Cleric who claimed that half-naked women were more dangerous than Terrorist bombs.
 
Not sure if this will help but sometime before I joined JREF I found this blog post reporting on a Muslim Cleric who claimed that half-naked women were more dangerous than Terrorist bombs.

More dangerous for whom? The terrorist bombs usually blow up infidels (i.e., everybody other than your average salafi pant-load). Is this a veiled invitation to air-drop topless Playboy bunnies and Juggies into the Middle East? They're certainly not dangerous at all for people who aren't living in this century.
 
, why, in contrast, is it socially acceptable for women to show off their bodies in Mediterranean and Latin American countries?

Because skimpy clothing is more suitable to the climate there. You've also got to consider the kinds of material and clothing technology that has been availible.
 
This is a fascinating topic and the essay of the PhD student was fascinating (if not a little overly stated).

Basically in these societies women are property. Apparently part of the deal is that other people don't get to see your property. I hear you can beat them with impunity as well.

...And the women put up with it. Brainwashing really does work!
 
This is a fascinating topic and the essay of the PhD student was fascinating (if not a little overly stated).

Basically in these societies women are property. Apparently part of the deal is that other people don't get to see your property. I hear you can beat them with impunity as well.

...And the women put up with it. Brainwashing really does work!
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An unescorted woman in Islam is fair game for any cruising male.
Why is that?
I saw an article where all the women in the University of Pakistan suddenly adopted the burkha.
Is that brainwashing, or fear?
The "theology". such as it is in Islam with all the (mandatory) praising of Allah and everything about him seems to break down on the subject of women and their uncleanliness.
How could Allah create something unclean?
 
Because skimpy clothing is more suitable to the climate there. You've also got to consider the kinds of material and clothing technology that has been availible.

True enough. But skimpy clothing would also be very suitable throughout much of the Middle East, as well as much of India and south-east Asia.

Having spent a lot of time on the beaches of Greece, it became very obvious to me that Greeks are very European(and very hairy*). Greeks are often mistakenly lumped in with Middle Easterners for some reason. Go across the Aegean sea from Christian Greece to Muslim Turkey, and while Greeks and Turks are culturally and racially similar, Turks tend to be less tolerant of nude beaches and skimpiness. While nude beaches may exist to some degree in the Muslim world, they tend to be small, private beaches, if they exist at all. Turkey has an Islamic fundamentalist movement that may soon be powerful enough to destroy the secular foundation of the modern Turkish nation. Turkey of course is very "European" in many ways compared to places like Saudi Arabia or Iran, except in many rural areas and the "movement" I mentioned.

I'm trying to find out the deep cultural differences that lead to this. In part what I am trying to figure out is what gives rise to this extreme prudishness? And what are its effects, especially on women? Is it just Islam, is it religion, or is there something we are missing here, both as the cause and the effect, some kind of vicious cycle leading to "backwardness"?

I'm sorry if this is all long-winded, confusing, overstated and going in several tangents, but the head of this research(I'm just an assistant at best) and main author currently lives/teaches in a Middle Eastern country and had to go through several revisions to avoid catching too much attention. This is the sad reality of a non-believer amidst Islamic radicalism. Hopefully things will change for the better there, and maybe research like this will play a role. I thank everyone for your input, and so does the lead researcher.


P.S*: If you love hairy women(especially women with mustaches), you'll love it in Greece.
 
(I've read that even the early Anglo-Saxons had something like sharia, but it died out).
the Anglo-Saxons did indeed have a code of legislated morality, and women were required to wear headscarves. But this was common practice for Christians at the time all over Europe, and not in the least unusual or unique to the Anglo-Saxons.
 
As part of a research project, I'm curious to know how Muslim women see their bodies compared with western women, and compared with non-Muslim minorities living in Muslim countries.
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