The Electric Comet Theory /SAFIRE Part V

[Reality Check]

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. addressed over the last 10 years

...

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project.
That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf
Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. !
Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model !
Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock !
Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock.
Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior.

Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !

 

[Reality Check]

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. addressed over the last 10 years

...

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project.
That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf
Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. !
Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model !
Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock !
Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock.
Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior.

Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !

 

[jonesdave116]

Really??

off topic but how do super Jupiter orbit so close to their parent star?

More ad hocness!

Mainstream are just guessing... this is now how science is done.

Best guess using some very complicated mathamagincs to make it "work"!

Best you leave the big questions till you worked out what comets are.

We know what comets are. You are the one with the unscientific belief system and zero evidence. That is why no real scientists believe your Velikovskian woo.

 

[Reality Check]

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. addressed over the last 10 years

...

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project.
That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf
Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. !
Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model !
Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock !
Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock.
Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior.

Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !

This case of insanity is listing what is not found on comets which is a little of what makes Sol88's comet insanity insane!

A bit of "Limestone = calcium carbonate" insanity from Sol88 in a later post. Limestone "is a carbonate sedimentary rock that is often composed of the skeletal fragments of marine organisms such as coral, foraminifera, and molluscs. Its major materials are the minerals calcite and aragonite, which are different crystal forms of calcium carbonate (CaCO3)." Limestone is specific crystal forms of calcium carbonate. Limestone is a sedimentary rock. Limestone often has fossils in it.

 

[jonesdave116]

where was it formed, Who cares,

What is the D/H ratio of water on various comets? With all that electrochemistry going on, you'd expect some funky stuff! Still funny how mainstream try and relate comets formation to solar system formation. The solar system formation is a nice campfire story!


In the Electric Universe... you know the story



Proven electric currents and electric fields, make me one happy ELECTRIC COMET SUPPORTER.
You're more than welcome to entertain ideas from the era before we had been out into the plasma universe!

More unscientific gibberish! What electrochemistry? Zilch. Not happening. You made it up. You have no science. Only a belief system.

 

[Reality Check]

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. addressed over the last 10 years

...

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project.
That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf
Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. !
Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model !
Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock !
Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock.
Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior.

Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !

 

[Reality Check]

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. addressed over the last 10 years

...

The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral
Yet more propaganda from the Thunderbolts cult on the insane SAFIRE project.
That conversation with Monty exposed that the already insane SAFIRE project is even more insane than collapsing the Sun to a white dwarf
Plasma has been explained to Sol88 many times over the last 10 or more years but he is too interested in drinking his cult's poison to understand that plasma is a partially ionized gas that is quasi-neutral. !
Sol88's totally insane lie repeated over many years that we have no mainstream model of comets when he cites papers on the mainstream model !
Sol88's totally insane lie that "The nucleus is thus a highly porous very dusty body with very little ice." is Sol88's insanity of comets being actual rock !
Sol88's utterly insane lie for over 4 years that MUPUS hammered into actual rock.
Sol88's persistent insanity of not understanding the difference between the surface of a comet nucleus and its interior.

Sol88's usual insanity to derail from Sol88's insane religious dogma that comets are actual rock (no ices or a demented fantasy of "little ices") blasted from rocky planets by electric discharges between planets including recent times (witnessed by us!) and that these rocks discharge in a massive solar electric field. This insanely tears the rock apart and puts gas and dust into the coma and forms their insanity of jets as electrical discharges !

Where his demented cult makes comets form is very relevant. It is rocky planets including Earth. We have measured that comets have different D/H ratios from the early Earth when they could have created Earth's oceans and the disconnect may get worse with the modern Earth. !

Sol88's insanity that electrochemistry turns D into H to alter cometary D/H ratios. Electrochemistry is about electrons !
Sol88's usual insane lies about mainstream solar system formation.
Sol88's usual insane lie that Sol88's demented cult has a solar system formation model.
Sol88's usual insane lies of "Proven electric currents and electric fields" in his demented cult electric universe insanity which is just their electric comet & Sun insanity on larger scales.

 

[Sol88]

More unscientific gibberish! What electrochemistry? Zilch. Not happening. You made it up. You have no science. Only a belief system.

No, you made up the story comets are

Comets are the icy remnants left over from the formation of the planets 4.6 billion years ago.

ESA

Are they? You just made up that story. Mainstream are completely clueless.

Still nice way to earn a few $$$$.

Do you even know what electrochemistry is? I'd expect not, with someone wedged so far up the "creation" story clacker, that they must ad hoc to keep the story self consistent!

Who said electric discharge cant happen? Numpties that's who!

We used argue about charge separation CAN NOT happen in ideal MHD... didn't go so well for you and all the other posters here.

Astro-electrochemistry means that a lot of the
reactions that happen in space are driven by a potential difference.

Potential difference/Charge Separation = Check

 

[Sol88]

Facepalm!

Your task - which you’ve been dodging since forever - is to show that the Electric Comet idea is consistent quantitatively with all relevant observations. Time to put up or shut up, wouldn’t you say?

Oh, and there can’t be any carbonates or clays, because these require, and contain, a lot of water. And High Priest Talbott has declared that comets are dry as dry can be.

Ouchy, again....

 

[Sol88]

if you are so convinced i am sure you can write a concise quantitative text about how you see this happen

It's already been done.

So what I’m proposing here is, this paradigm or this model can be true if we show that we have a potential difference. In this particular case, I’m making the sun the positive region because of the protons of the solar wind, and the nucleus will be the negative region. Now if you are able to show this, then you can apply without fear an electrochemical model. So this is the key part, and I think this is why it’s going to take us a lot of time in the future, trying to show that there’s a potential difference here

Is there’s a potential difference at 67P?

 

[tusenfem]

Y
Which model?

Maybe you should read whole papers and not only quote mine

 

[Sol88]

Don't have to, my mate Reality Check has confirmed I now must call the standard mainstream model of comets "Icy dirtballs"

Fair call, cob?

 

[Sol88]

Electrochemistry

Originally Posted by tusenfem View Post
if you are so convinced i am sure you can write a concise quantitative text about how you see this happen

It's already been done.

So what I’m proposing here is, this paradigm or this model can be true if we show that we have a potential difference. In this particular case, I’m making the sun the positive region because of the protons of the solar wind, and the nucleus will be the negative region. Now if you are able to show this, then you can apply without fear an electrochemical model. So this is the key part, and I think this is why it’s going to take us a lot of time in the future, trying to show that there’s a potential difference here

Is there’s a potential difference at 67P?

 

[Belz...]

Sublimation NOT needed!

Electric fields ARE needed.

Electrochemistry is the result.

Would you mind answering my question, and in your own words?

I'm asking you in what way does this water generation prove your general theory. And while you're at it, why and how does it make the "mostly icy comet" theory incorrect?

 

[tusenfem]

Electrochemistry




It's already been done.




Is there’s a potential difference at 67P?

Oh really, show me the water production then, just copypaste the calculations that show that the observed and measured densities can be reached with you electric idea.

 

[Sol88]

No use, unless you can walk me step by step on how MAINSTREAM model Q.

Because the comet is only giving off pissy amounts of water, this is well and truly accounted for in the electrochemical model.

Do we have any of the ingredients needed, for this electrochemistry model to a least be plausible?

Is there an electric field causing a potential difference between the solar wind and the nucleus?

Are any of the ingredients necessary for the production of water ions found on a comets surface?

Step this idiot thru those three questions and you know you answer the very question you ask.

 

[jonesdave116]

Because the comet is only giving off pissy amounts of water, this is well and truly accounted for in the electrochemical model.

Is another lie. And you have no mechanism. Lol. Go back to school. Assuming you ever attended one.

 

[jonesdave116]

Do we have any of the ingredients needed, for this electrochemistry model to a least be plausible?

You have no mechanism. And the amounts rule out such idiotic woo.

Is there an electric field causing a potential difference between the solar wind and the nucleus?

Errrr, what? You mean like at asteroids?

Are any of the ingredients necessary for the production of water ions found on a comets surface?

You think water just magics itself into being? As noted - you have no mechanism.

Step this idiot thru those three questions and you know you answer the very question you ask.

Any idiot can see that the questions could only have been posed by an idiot.

 

[tusenfem]

No use, unless you can walk me step by step on how MAINSTREAM model Q.

Because the comet is only giving off pissy amounts of water, this is well and truly accounted for in the electrochemical model.

Do we have any of the ingredients needed, for this electrochemistry model to a least be plausible?

Is there an electric field causing a potential difference between the solar wind and the nucleus?

Are any of the ingredients necessary for the production of water ions found on a comets surface?

Step this idiot thru those three questions and you know you answer the very question you ask.

right, like I am going to do the work for you ...

So you got zilch

 

[Belz...]

No use, unless you can walk me step by step on how MAINSTREAM model Q.

Because the comet is only giving off pissy amounts of water, this is well and truly accounted for in the electrochemical model.

Do we have any of the ingredients needed, for this electrochemistry model to a least be plausible?

Is there an electric field causing a potential difference between the solar wind and the nucleus?

Are any of the ingredients necessary for the production of water ions found on a comets surface?

Step this idiot thru those three questions and you know you answer the very question you ask.

Would you mind answering my question, and in your own words?

I'm asking you in what way does this water generation prove your general theory. And while you're at it, why and how does it make the "mostly icy comet" theory incorrect?