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The difference between aetheists and religious

Iacchus said:
Yes, if God doesn't exist, it would be impossible to know that He does.
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I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

If I say the opposite:

No, if god does exist, it wouldn't be possible to know that he doesn't.

It's still no clearer.
 
TJ Stough said:
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

If I say the opposite:

No, if god does exist, it wouldn't be possible to know that he doesn't.

It's still no clearer.
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Really? All I'm saying is that you can't prove a negative. In which case if God does exist, it would seem much more likely that we could prove that He does. In fact, it would all be contingent upon our ability to know, at least according to what I'm saying here.
 
Way too picky in your defining the search for God, Iacchus. Whether you are proving a negative or a positive is irrelavant. Getting the proof necessary is.
 
And would you not agree that the rules which govern the Universe are inherently bound to logic and, that our ability to know is directly attributable to this?
 
Iacchus said:
And would you not agree that the rules which govern the Universe are inherently bound to logic and, that our ability to know is directly attributable to this?
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No. Clearly not.

Your ignorance of logic, the laws of physics, and the processes of learning, are letting you down.
 
Mercutio said:
No. Clearly not.

Your ignorance of logic, the laws of physics, and the processes of learning, are letting you down.
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You don't believe in science and it's ability to explain the world around us? How do you explain consciousness then, if not bound to the constraints of logic and a logical Universe?
 
Iacchus said:
You don't believe in science and it's ability to explain the world around us?
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Thank you for this sentence. It, as much as anything you have written, shows how disconnected you are from reality. Only in some bizarre alternate universe could you be chastising me about science.
How do you explain consciousness then, if not bound to the constraints of logic and a logical Universe?
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Gee...maybe you should go back to the half-dozen or so threads where this was already discussed to death?
 
So, in what way is science not a wasted effort then? Are you suggesting that there is no logical consistency to the Universe? By the way, this has always been my claim. ;)
 
Iacchus said:
So, in what way is science not a wasted effort then? Are you suggesting that there is no logical consistency to the Universe? By the way, this has always been my claim. ;)
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I am saying that there is no logical consistency to your posts.

Disagreeing with your view of science is not at all the same thing as disagreeing with science.
 
Mercutio said:
I am saying that there is no logical consistency to your posts.

Disagreeing with your view of science is not at all the same thing as disagreeing with science.
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So, in what way would you disagree that science is the study of the logical consistency of the Universe? Is there any other way that it can be maintained? Wouldn't you agree that the Universe is, for the most part, logical?
 
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Iacchus said:
So, in what way would you disagree that science is the study of the logical consistency of the Universe?
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By directing you to a dictionary.
Is there any other way that it can be maintained?
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This question is rendered irrelevant by the incorrectness of your first assumption.
Wouldn't you agree that the Universe is, for the most part, logical?
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How so?

I am in too good a mood to continue to argue with you. Go read a dictionary, realize your mistake, and you can have the last word.
 
Mercutio said:
By directing you to a dictionary.
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Why? Because I'm not repeating what it says verbatim? How does this make it incorrect?

This question is rendered irrelevant by the incorrectness of your first assumption.
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No, I don't think so.

How so?
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With all these piles and piles of books with inherent/factual knowledge of the Universe ... what we would otherwise term as "non-fiction."

I am in too good a mood to continue to argue with you. Go read a dictionary, realize your mistake, and you can have the last word.
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Really?
 
Why would science promote the theory of evolution if it didn't believe it were logically consistent?
 
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