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The DeSantis gambit

Norman Alexander said:
I wonder if they can explain whatever it was that was "not clear" that demanded "clarification".
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It wasn't clear that FL changes its laws to help Republican aspirants to the VP/POTUS offices so they wanted to clear that up.
Florida law currently requires anyone running for a new office to put in an irrevocable letter of resignation ahead of qualifying if the terms of the two offices overlap. The law was changed in 2007 to open the door for then-Gov. Charlie Crist to seek the vice presidency, but legislators reversed course in 2018 and added back a requirement that someone seeking federal office would have to submit their resignation letter ahead of the actual election. The 2018 law did include a carve-out for someone whose term is about to end, but that would not apply to DeSantis, who was just reelected last year. Right after DeSantis’s blowout reelection win, the state’s two legislative leaders said they were willing to alter the existing law in order to help a potential candidacy. But for the first seven weeks of this year’s legislative session, GOP legislators did not release any actual proposals.

The Senate on Tuesday afternoon released a nearly 100-page rewrite of this year’s election bills that spells out that the state’s qualifying requirements — including the resign-to-run provision — do not apply to those running for president and vice president.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/25/florida-gop-law-change-desantis-presidential-run-00093773
 
Apparently Desantis' toadies have decided that Organic Chemistry is too woke to allowed Professors who teach it to have tenure.
 
W.D.Clinger said:
EXHIBIT E is a "DECLARATION OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS".
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I have already specifically addressed this. The restrictive covenant isn't a contract. That's why nobody on Disney's side signed anything for the restrictive covenant. It's purely on RCID's side. Hell, that isn't even an agreement.

ETA: By the way, the New York Times quotes an actual expert on development agreements:
“It would impair a contract,” said Jacob Schumer, a Florida lawyer who specializes in government law and development agreements.
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I can't read that link because it's paywalled, and as quoted, I have no idea what "it" refers to, nor what conditions apply to the conditional "would". That tells me absolutely nothing.
 
Ziggurat said:
I have already specifically addressed this. The restrictive covenant isn't a contract. That's why nobody on Disney's side signed anything for the restrictive covenant. It's purely on RCID's side. Hell, that isn't even an agreement.
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On the one hand, we have Ziggurat's opinion as expressed above. On the other hand, we have the opinion of actual legal experts who say things like
...even if the development agreement is struck down, nothing in case law prevents the restrictive covenants from going into effect.​
Ziggurat said:
I can't read that link because it's paywalled, and as quoted, I have no idea what "it" refers to, nor what conditions apply to the conditional "would". That tells me absolutely nothing.
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The Dunning-Kruger crowd say pretty much the same thing whenever I cite or quote Lee, Hawking and Ellis, Misner/Thorne/Wheeler, or Wald.

I suspect, however, that at least a few of those reading this thread are capable of reading and understanding the New York Times and other news sources.
 
Slo-mo is right. Disney's suit is unlikely to be settled before the 2024 election, and might not be settled until after DeSantis's term as governor expires in January 2027. DeSantis might win in state court, but the case involves constitutional issues: US Constitution Article 1, Section 10, and the First Amendment. Disney has the resources (and probably has the motivation) to take any adverse decision in state court to the federal court system, appealing all the way to the US Supreme Court if necessary.

Because adjudication of the legal issues will take such a long time, the more imminent question is indeed whether this will enhance DeSantis's standing within his party and his chances of gaining the nomination.

For the benefit of those who get their news from right-wing alternative media, I'll quote from a New York Times article of four days ago.

Charles Homans said:
A Harvard-Harris poll this month found a majority of registered voters nationwide — and a vast majority of Republicans — siding with Mr. DeSantis in the showdown. The survey described Mr. DeSantis as attempting “to limit Disney’s autonomy” and remove “special tax status.”

But another poll, this one conducted this week by Reuters/Ipsos, found less than half of Republicans had a more favorable view of the governor because of his fight with Disney. And majorities of Democrats and Republicans said they were less likely to support a candidate who supported laws intended to punish companies for their positions on cultural issues.

The episode has been viewed as a weakness by his prospective rivals in the 2024 presidential primary field, in which polls show Mr. DeSantis has slipped. On his Truth Social platform, Donald J. Trump mocked Mr. DeSantis for being “absolutely destroyed by Disney.”
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One of DeSantis's other declared rivals for the nomination, Nikki Haley, tweeted:
Nikki Haley said:
Hey @Disney, my home state will happily accept your 70,000+ jobs if you want to leave Florida.

We’ve got great weather, great people, and it’s always a great day in South Carolina!

SC’s not woke, but we’re not sanctimonious about it either.
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For those who possess enough wisdom and self-control to ignore former president Donald Trump: the "sanctimonious" of that tweet echoed Trump's references to DeSantis as "Ron DeSanctimonious". DeSantis responded to Trump by saying he doesn't even know how to spell the word. “I don’t really know what it means, but I kinda like it, it’s long, it’s got a lot of vowels.”

Another declared candidate, Asa Hutchinson, said
Asa Hutchinson said:
I don’t believe if you’re on the left or the right of the political spectrum that government should not be telling business what they can and cannot do in terms of speech. And however you describe it, it appears to me that the governor did not like what Disney was doing in terms of what they were saying and exercising speech, so they’re being punished.
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Despite his erroneous double negative, Hutchinson was criticizing DeSantis.


Chris Christie, Chris Sununu, and even Kevin McCarthy have criticized DeSantis's tactics.

As influential Republicans continue to criticize DeSantis on this matter, rank-and-file Republican support for DeSantis's feud with Disney is likely to erode.
 
a_unique_person said:
All that public domain IP that they copyright for millenia. Total hypocrites.
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I still wouldn't call that evil. Evil is the bought off politicians and judges that made that possible.

For example, How It's a Wonderful Life somehow became private property after two decades of being in the public domain. How images of Elvis and Marilyn Monroe stopped being the property of the photographers or in the public domain into being the property of their grandchildren.

No question, The Mouse has had a negative effect on the IP laws. But so has the Pharmaceutical industry. And both accomplished it by a political system that is purchased by their money.

My issue though with DeSantis's battle with Disney is that everything DeSantis and his government did was in the service of suppressing free speech.
 
I do think there's a pot and kettle issue here. The cupidinous corporations have long relied on politicians like De Santis and his ilk to enable them. If both the corporations and the politicians thought they were doing the right thing for the right reasons, it would end there even if they were both quite wrong.

Maybe the corporations really believe in what they do, and really think laissez faire economics, deregulation and draconian labor practices are good as well as profitable, who knows? But it's clear that De Santis, at least, has all along thought his party's right wing free market capitalist stance was not really about that at all, but about making a social bargain. It's not so bad that they're an evil exploitative monster, but they've forgotten to pay the political vigorish.

Big corporations pretend to serve the people while really robbing them, but at least they know who the people are. The Republicans lie about both.
 
since desantis is getting out played it's just making him look weak
 
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